since when can he use 20 mokuton clones? scans of him doing thisHashirama destroys Itachi. Hashirama himself doesn't even need to fight, Itachi can try to fight 20 Mokuton Bunshins in a surrounding Hashirama changed into his advantage.
how do you know? tell me the chapter where they fought. wait you cantHashirama fought on par with EMS madara and then beat him convincingly
which you shouldnt do. and besides itachis hype is high enough. apparently ms obito didnt want to fight him and neither did kakashi who fought pain without hesitationThis fight is a joke at best if we include powerscaling and hype
well not you and not me ergo we should ignore itWho knows what all hashirama carries within that scroll.
madaras not itachi. completely different fighting styles and information known. we know alot about itachi. we know next to nothign about hashirama, ems madara and what happened in their fight. for all we know hashi is that generation's konan and set a trap specifically tailored to counter madara. and it still didnt work. he still got his power stolen and madara still escaped to fight another day. i love how yata is the all powerful invincible shield when hes fighting nagato but now its useless and nothing when hes up against hashirama. itachi is not "small fry" i doubt hashirama has even heard of finger genjutsu or totsuka sword. show me some hashi speed feats that suggest he dodges thisYou must be registered for see linksdont worry ill wait
so can itachi. ammy to the face. hashi burns to death. and since when did you know the starting distance? flower world doesnt work on sharingan as hed clearly see the pollen cloud and know not to go into it. madara had to knock the kages into it before they got affected. and theres no proof hashi can do it on madaras scale. i mean its hashi fanboys answer to everything yet its failed twice (madara, onoki).....Hashirama won't even be in range of the totsuka, he can fight long range....Flower World puts him to sleep.
i know its not that impressive. but hashirama has literally nothing to be impressed about speed wise.
so can itachi. ammy to the face. hashi burns to death. and since when did you know the starting distance? flower world doesnt work on sharingan as hed clearly see the pollen cloud and know not to go into it. madara had to knock the kages into it before they got affected. and theres no proof hashi can do it on madaras scale. i mean its hashi fanboys answer to everything yet its failed twice (madara, onoki)
no he cant. not once did he ever do so nor could he ever even try to do this meaning you made this up and gave him a feat he never demonstratedHashirama can make a forest in an instant with Jukai Kotan.
so madara can fly? and if flower world beats anything and everything how come two people have tanked it?The Kages only avoided the Flower World because they flew into the air...Itachi can't fly.
minato was the original user of rasengan yet is not the best one. show proof its inferior. wait you cant.
no he cant. not once did he ever do so nor could he ever even try to do this meaning you made this up and gave him a feat he never demonstrated
so madara can fly? and if flower world beats anything and everything how come two people have tanked it?
never said he dodged it. but onoki threw it off with will power. itachis will power was so extreme he was staying alive just long enough for sasuke to kill him despite a crippling diseaseShow me a scan of Madara dodging flower world.....oh wait you can't (Using your own medicine against you
how do you know? if its pollen it would just seep through it. and if susano shuts it out then why cant itachi?PS allows him to be out of range of the flower world
when hashirama matches madara in feats then hes better. since he never did, he isntIf you really believe Madara is better than Hashirama at Mokuton then you fail so hard...
madara had mokuton for longer than hashirama did. madaras had it since their fight which was over 60 years ago. hashirama couldnt have been over 30 whne he died judging by his edo tensei looksHashirama had Mokuton for all his life...Madara didn't
exactly.Naruto's Rasengan is better cause he had more practice with it and he got to add his chakra nature to it...Minato did not have this time.
ok. prove it. show me how his mokuton vs hiruzen was better than thisIf Madara did it with Mokuton...Hashirama can do it better or at the very least just as good
never said he dodged it. but onoki threw it off with will power. itachis will power was so extreme he was staying alive just long enough for sasuke to kill him despite a crippling disease
how do you know? if its pollen it would just seep through it. and if susano shuts it out then why cant itachi?
Hashirama got it from Madara...he can use it just as good or better.when hashirama matches madara in feats then hes better. since he never did, he isnt
madara had mokuton for longer than hashirama did. madaras had it since their fight which was over 60 years ago. hashirama couldnt have been over 30 whne he died judging by his edo tensei looks
He had it longer but he sure didn't use it more than Hashirama did. For the majority of those 60 years Madara was in hiding..after getting beat by Hashirama. By what he says here:You must be registered for see linksYou can obviously tell that he hasn't had much practice with them.
exactly.
ok. prove it. show me how his mokuton vs hiruzen was better than thisYou must be registered for see links
show me him doing so. wait...wait..no....you cantHashirama can make Mokuton up to that level or greater.
show me him doing so. wait...wait..no....you cant
madaras not itachi. completely different fighting styles and information known. we know alot about itachi. we know next to nothign about hashirama, ems madara and what happened in their fight. for all we know hashi is that generation's konan and set a trap specifically tailored to counter madara. and it still didnt work. he still got his power stolen and madara still escaped to fight another day. i love how yata is the all powerful invincible shield when hes fighting nagato but now its useless and nothing when hes up against hashirama. itachi is not "small fry" i doubt hashirama has even heard of finger genjutsu or totsuka sword. show me some hashi speed feats that suggest he dodges thisYou must be registered for see linksdont worry ill wait