Can we agree that Itachi isn't stronger than the Sage Of Six Paths?![]()
sasuke killed his A$$ how many freakin times must i say it no offense people if u havent seen that episode yet but sasuke davastated itachi
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Um Madara specifically said that he awekenned reningan before he died. Hence why nagato has Madras eyes. I'm not posting any links though. Don't be dumb, he doesn't have anything to go against izanami. Why would he even have such a thing in the first place.Yes, Danzo isn't all that strong without Hashi's cells and the sharingans on his arm. Obviously!!!! If anyone had hashi's cells and sharingans on their arms they would be just as if not more strong than Danzo. You are right that it is THEIR power, but my universal point is that the objects granting them power can be had from anyone. That is why I view it unbalanced to scale their power based on these assets.
Also, Madara owns Itachi in ocular jutsu. You say that Shisui's eye is Itachi's power, when that is completely mistaken. Shisui's eye is SHISUI'S power, which Itachi happens to have. Which is why Shisui is one of the strongest shinobi, ranked above Itachi. Please stop overrating Itachi everyone... he is a good shinobi but not near godly.
Madara possesses the rinnegan, which he had awakened. That is HIS power. Shisui's eye is SHISUI'S power in ITACHI'S possession. That doesn't make Itachi as a person stronger. How can you be certain that Madara hasn't shown an ocular jutsu that can counter Izanami or anything else Itachi has?![]()
You can't say anything definitive because it's all speculation, but I would have to disagree, were not really sure of all of kotoamatsukami's limitations.
I think that interview was fake U_U
Hi im sorry to say but madara is not the strongest ninja and guess what neither is Hashirama. The amount of madara threads and hashirama threads being created and the amount of people saying madara is strongest or hashirama is strongest. No your wrong Itachi is the strongest. You people need to accept it.
Lets see what makes him number 1
He has shisuis ultimate genjutsu that can end the fight before it begins
Ultimate defence via susanoo and impenetrable shield
Ultimate sealing technique
Izanami
Izanagi (most likely)
Ameterasu
Tsukyomi which i dont think hashirama and madara could break
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAND the billion other things we know about itachi such as his supreme intelligence and battle tactics.
FACE FACTS HE IS THE STRONGEST, PROVE ME WRONG
How you gone be fanboyin and talkin mess at the same time, but expect nice calm debating? wtf? and if you are serious about itachi being the strongest ninja after all the really powerful ninja we have seen in the manga(im pretty sure we're reading the same manga) than the only idiot here is you, and btw i didn't see you say anything about this is a thread for FAIR debating... because you already know your going to be biased...-_-You are an idiot please take your hate elsewhere. This thread is for nice calm debating if you are incapable of doing so leave.
Hi what i am saying is before he used it and put it in naruto at that point he was technically even if it was for a while was the strongest.
I am talking about when he did have shisuis eye and did not have plans to use it to protect konoha. Really he dosent have izanagi, how do you know this are you kishi. Im not sure he has it but its a possibility. Lastly who was even talking about edo madara of course he cannot beat edo madara because he is waaaay too powerful thanks to kabuto boosting his powers im talking about an alive madara with only ems not hashirama powers and rinnegan.
I really dont think he needs to hold shisuis eye. Im sorry are you actually saying madaras susanoo is better no sorry the ultimate defence as stated in the manga is the ultimate defence. Also itachis sealing technique is the ultimate sealing technique, you dont know how hashis sealing works or how long it takes so please relax. If you are going to say that there is a ninja smarter than itachi that is nearly as strong then name one. Intelligence + power beat pure power.
We all saw how much of a chump danzo was he lost to sasuke, SASUKE and by way of regular genjutsu. Remember how danzo shit it when he thought he saw itachi in the sasuke vs danzo fight and during the fight itachi was trying to capture kabuto not kill him are you seriously going to say if he was actually fighting he would not do better.
You sir are a hater please leave, how can you say anyone would defeat itachi easily:flaw:
As shikaku said legends tend to be exhaggerated of course madara disproved this but only due to the fact madara is op thanks to kabuto he is completed beyond his prime. I dont think itachi is the only ninja that can beat hashi and madara.
Im talking about when he was alive and in possession of shisuis eye and trust me there happens to be a BIG difference between shisui and itachi and by the way itachi happens to be the king of genjutsu so saying shisui would know how to use it better is kind of false. Itachi would not i repeat not lose his eye like shisui did.
At first i used to think wow this shisui guy must have been as good as itachi or better but when i saw that page where he said danzo got my eye i just thought you chump. I agree with what you said about izanagi and izanami, but itachi is not one to waste and opperturnity and would use it at just the right time and only if he needed to. Like i said before im talking about when he was alive so yes he had sword. See your going on false information, who said you need senju dna for izanami it said in manga it was a uchiha technique created to keep those who used izanagi in check. Pretty sure Tsyumi can only be broken if you are a close relation. Yes i agree if he was not ill he would have been much more powerful
Sorry are you for real sasuke could beat itachi bwahahaha, i dont think so
Um Madara specifically said that he awekenned reningan before he died. Hence why nagato has Madras eyes. I'm not posting any links though. Don't be dumb, he doesn't have anything to go against izanami. Why would he even have such a thing in the first place.
The only limitation is the 10 year cool down since it was sooo haxxed.
How you gone be fanboyin and talkin mess at the same time, but expect nice calm debating? wtf? and if you are serious about itachi being the strongest ninja after all the really powerful ninja we have seen in the manga(im pretty sure we're reading the same manga) than the only idiot here is you, and btw i didn't see you say anything about this is a thread for FAIR debating... because you already know your going to be biased...-_-
You are an idiot please take your hate elsewhere. This thread is for nice calm debating if you are incapable of doing so leave.
Hi what i am saying is before he used it and put it in naruto at that point he was technically even if it was for a while was the strongest.
I am talking about when he did have shisuis eye and did not have plans to use it to protect konoha. Really he dosent have izanagi, how do you know this are you kishi. Im not sure he has it but its a possibility. Lastly who was even talking about edo madara of course he cannot beat edo madara because he is waaaay too powerful thanks to kabuto boosting his powers im talking about an alive madara with only ems not hashirama powers and rinnegan.
I really dont think he needs to hold shisuis eye. Im sorry are you actually saying madaras susanoo is better no sorry the ultimate defence as stated in the manga is the ultimate defence. Also itachis sealing technique is the ultimate sealing technique, you dont know how hashis sealing works or how long it takes so please relax. If you are going to say that there is a ninja smarter than itachi that is nearly as strong then name one. Intelligence + power beat pure power.
We all saw how much of a chump danzo was he lost to sasuke, SASUKE and by way of regular genjutsu. Remember how danzo shit it when he thought he saw itachi in the sasuke vs danzo fight and during the fight itachi was trying to capture kabuto not kill him are you seriously going to say if he was actually fighting he would not do better.
You sir are a hater please leave, how can you say anyone would defeat itachi easily:flaw:
As shikaku said legends tend to be exhaggerated of course madara disproved this but only due to the fact madara is op thanks to kabuto he is completed beyond his prime. I dont think itachi is the only ninja that can beat hashi and madara.
Im talking about when he was alive and in possession of shisuis eye and trust me there happens to be a BIG difference between shisui and itachi and by the way itachi happens to be the king of genjutsu so saying shisui would know how to use it better is kind of false. Itachi would not i repeat not lose his eye like shisui did.
At first i used to think wow this shisui guy must have been as good as itachi or better but when i saw that page where he said danzo got my eye i just thought you chump. I agree with what you said about izanagi and izanami, but itachi is not one to waste and opperturnity and would use it at just the right time and only if he needed to. Like i said before im talking about when he was alive so yes he had sword. See your going on false information, who said you need senju dna for izanami it said in manga it was a uchiha technique created to keep those who used izanagi in check. Pretty sure Tsyumi can only be broken if you are a close relation. Yes i agree if he was not ill he would have been much more powerful
Sorry are you for real sasuke could beat itachi bwahahaha, i dont think so
Dude shut your stupid ass up,and get your shit together,you are more of a filthy ass dickrider than that other guy, its punks like you that will ultimately lead itachi to not having any fans, idk rather your simple,stupid or slow,maybe a bit mental(or all of the above) but you don't seem to understand(and listen very carefully when i say this you might just learn something) itachi will NEVER be the strongest,and guess what he never was, get this shit through to you head and stfu, you itachi and minato fans get worse and worse everyday,it makes me wonder what other dumbass threads you've made about itachi.....and btw you say at one point he WAS the strongest in the manga wtf? which point was this? since you feel like you know so much,go ahead kid speak, make yourself sound dumber than you already were the moment you made this ridiculous thread, all your doing is dickriding,and you got the nerve to call someone a troll no you gtfo.What a troll you are, a foul mouthed troll. Your posts are barely understandable. You call me biased yet you fail to read or properly understand. You seem keen to insult me and degrade yourself by doing so. Read this and understand at one point in time itachi uchiha was the strongest in the manga is that so hard for you to fathom. Your right you didnt see it say this is a thread for fair debating because i said nice calm debating which you are incapable of doing and as far as fair goes. Ultimately dismissing something someone has to say it what i would call unfair, not respecting their opinions is unfair so please GTFO:sy:
You are an idiot please take your hate elsewhere. This thread is for nice calm debating if you are incapable of doing so leave.
Hi what i am saying is before he used it and put it in naruto at that point he was technically even if it was for a while was the strongest.
I am talking about when he did have shisuis eye and did not have plans to use it to protect konoha. Really he dosent have izanagi, how do you know this are you kishi. Im not sure he has it but its a possibility. Lastly who was even talking about edo madara of course he cannot beat edo madara because he is waaaay too powerful thanks to kabuto boosting his powers im talking about an alive madara with only ems not hashirama powers and rinnegan.
I really dont think he needs to hold shisuis eye. Im sorry are you actually saying madaras susanoo is better no sorry the ultimate defence as stated in the manga is the ultimate defence. Also itachis sealing technique is the ultimate sealing technique, you dont know how hashis sealing works or how long it takes so please relax. If you are going to say that there is a ninja smarter than itachi that is nearly as strong then name one. Intelligence + power beat pure power.
We all saw how much of a chump danzo was he lost to sasuke, SASUKE and by way of regular genjutsu. Remember how danzo shit it when he thought he saw itachi in the sasuke vs danzo fight and during the fight itachi was trying to capture kabuto not kill him are you seriously going to say if he was actually fighting he would not do better.
You sir are a hater please leave, how can you say anyone would defeat itachi easily:flaw:
As shikaku said legends tend to be exhaggerated of course madara disproved this but only due to the fact madara is op thanks to kabuto he is completed beyond his prime. I dont think itachi is the only ninja that can beat hashi and madara.
Im talking about when he was alive and in possession of shisuis eye and trust me there happens to be a BIG difference between shisui and itachi and by the way itachi happens to be the king of genjutsu so saying shisui would know how to use it better is kind of false. Itachi would not i repeat not lose his eye like shisui did.
At first i used to think wow this shisui guy must have been as good as itachi or better but when i saw that page where he said danzo got my eye i just thought you chump. I agree with what you said about izanagi and izanami, but itachi is not one to waste and opperturnity and would use it at just the right time and only if he needed to. Like i said before im talking about when he was alive so yes he had sword. See your going on false information, who said you need senju dna for izanami it said in manga it was a uchiha technique created to keep those who used izanagi in check. Pretty sure Tsyumi can only be broken if you are a close relation. Yes i agree if he was not ill he would have been much more powerful
Sorry are you for real sasuke could beat itachi bwahahaha, i dont think so
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" Im sorry are you actually saying madaras susanoo is better no sorry the ultimate defence as stated in the manga is the ultimate defence." WTH
Nope i did not say madaras susanoo is better, well technically it is but due to the fact itachi possess the sacred weapons itachis is actually better. Dont know where you read that lol