Itachi is the strongest

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

you are confused! go through the posts again.

Nothing beats the ultimate defence yes which is itachi's shield i agree so what is your point and i was defending the fact that itachis susanoo is actually better and in a susanoo vs susanoo fight itachi would win

 

[khaydz5]

Hi im sorry to say but madara is not the strongest ninja and guess what neither is Hashirama. The amount of madara threads and hashirama threads being created and the amount of people saying madara is strongest or hashirama is strongest. No your wrong Itachi is the strongest. You people need to accept it.

Lets see what makes him number 1

He has shisuis ultimate genjutsu that can end the fight before it begins
Ultimate defence via susanoo and impenetrable shield
Ultimate sealing technique
Izanami
Izanagi (most likely)
Ameterasu
Tsukyomi which i dont think hashirama and madara could break
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAND the billion other things we know about itachi such as his supreme intelligence and battle tactics.
FACE FACTS HE IS THE STRONGEST, PROVE ME WRONG

LOL

 

[Jay7]

Nothing beats the ultimate defence yes which is itachi's shield i agree so what is your point and i was defending the fact that itachis susanoo is actually better and in a susanoo vs susanoo fight itachi would win

If it's a susano'o vs susano'o fight then benefit of doubt would definitely go to Madara because we haven't seen what all his susano'o can do apart from ripping the battlefield apart,LITERALLY!

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We have seen only offensive side of his susano'o and i am pretty sure madara knows everything about totsuka's sword and yata mirror.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

If it's a susano'o vs susano'o fight then benefit of doubt would definitely go to Madara because we haven't seen what all his susano'o can do apart from ripping the battlefield apart,LITERALLY!

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We have seen only offensive side of his susano'o and i am pretty sure madara knows everything about totsuka's sword and yata mirror.

Forget everything else susanoo vs susanoo itachi would win, i bet your wondering why. Let me tell you susanoo are not known for their speed so yes madaras susanoo is powerful but what does that mean when compared to the ultimate defence and now back to the thing about speed the sword of totsuka is not a super fast attack however susanoo are not known for speed and the totsuka sword cannot be defended against considering it isnt entirly phsyically. So yes madara loses if he decides to use susanoo. Also i dont think knowing would be enough to be able to do anything in this case

 

[Jay7]

Forget everything else susanoo vs susanoo itachi would win, i bet your wondering why. Let me tell you susanoo are not known for their speed so yes madaras susanoo is powerful but what does that mean when compared to the ultimate defence and now back to the thing about speed the sword of totsuka is not a super fast attack however susanoo are not known for speed and the totsuka sword cannot be defended against considering it isnt entirly phsyically. So yes madara loses if he decides to use susanoo. Also i dont think knowing would be enough to be able to do anything in this case

I was talking about susano'o vs susano'o only :sy:
I am not jumping to any conclusion.I am not even wondering why madara will lose,I am just saying since we dont know about the defensive powers of Madara's susano'o , it's pretty dumb to think Itachi will win.

Who said susano'o is known for it's speed?!?! did i mention it in my post :sy:

"knowing is half the battle" ever heard of this phrase?

Naruto knew about pain's power!
Shikamaru knew about hidan's power!

you are contradicting your own statement "intelligence +knowledge + blah blah =ultimate power ,which itachi has" :sy:

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I was talking about susano'o vs susano'o only :sy:
I am not jumping to any conclusion.I am not even wondering why madara will lose,I am just saying since we dont know about the defensive powers of Madara's susano'o , it's pretty dumb to think Itachi will win.

Who said susano'o is known for it's speed?!?! did i mention it in my post :sy:

"knowing is half the battle" ever heard of this phrase?

Naruto knew about pain's power!
Shikamaru knew about hidan's power!

you are contradicting your own statement "intelligence +knowledge + blah blah =ultimate power ,which itachi has" :sy:

Its nice to have a debate where someone dosent lose their cool. Ok you have a point that we dont know about its defensive capabilites but like i said the totsuka sword can pretty much go through things so while madara would be in susanoo it would get pierced by the sword and madaras attacks reflected thanks to shield. Yes i know you didnt say anything about susanoo speed i was just letting you know just incase you may say madara could dodge the attack while in susanoo which is highly unlikely. Lastly yes your right knowing is half the battle in some cases, but the thing is madara acts pretty dumb and toys around he would probs be full of himself that he would leave an oppertunity for itachi lol

 

[Jay7]

Its nice to have a debate where someone dosent lose their cool. Ok you have a point that we dont know about its defensive capabilites but like i said the totsuka sword can pretty much go through things so while madara would be in susanoo it would get pierced by the sword and madaras attacks reflected thanks to shield. Yes i know you didnt say anything about susanoo speed i was just letting you know just incase you may say madara could dodge the attack while in susanoo which is highly unlikely. Lastly yes your right knowing is half the battle in some cases, but the thing is madara acts pretty dumb and toys around he would probs be full of himself that he would leave an oppertunity for itachi lol

Lashing out for an anime/character is pointless

It might pierce Madara's susano'o but then again benefit of doubt goes to Madara because we don't know it it's actually possible + defense techs of his susano'o

Madara is definitely full of himself ,that's because
1.Coz of edo tensei he is immortal
2.No one can seal him in their current state and now he's all free(kages are barely surviving)
3.Unlimited chakra reserve
(Give itachi all three of them and he can fodderize anyone for sure)
4.He knows kages are not even a match for him.

Madara is not the type of person who would barge in like Hidan/Naruto.If he finds someone worthy enough I am sure his demeanor will change and instead of talking he will concentrate on battle strategies.

But he got skills to match that loudmouth. :scorps:

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Lashing out for an anime/character is pointless

It might pierce Madara's susano'o but then again benefit of doubt goes to Madara because we don't know it it's actually possible + defense techs of his susano'o

Madara is definitely full of himself ,that's because
1.Coz of edo tensei he is immortal
2.No one can seal him in their current state and now he's all free(kages are barely surviving)
3.Unlimited chakra reserve
(Give itachi all three of them and he can fodderize anyone for sure)
4.He knows kages are not even a match for him.

Madara is not the type of person who would barge in like Hidan/Naruto.If he finds someone worthy enough I am sure his demeanor will change and instead of talking he will concentrate on battle strategies.

But he got skills to match that loudmouth. :scorps:

Cool nice to hear your thoughts on the topic. Id really like to see madara fight an opponent that can keep him on his toes, who knows maybe he will run into tobi that would be a blast lol.

 

[Jay7]

Cool nice to hear your thoughts on the topic. Id really like to see madara fight an opponent that can keep him on his toes, who knows maybe he will run into tobi that would be a blast lol.

I would like to see Edo Madara vs Tobi. Clash of the titans

 

[mainman2340]

really is that y he was bleeding i knew ud take that the wrong way but i cant blame ur reaction to the truth:flaw:

 

[MNU]

Itachi is outstanding but i dont think he is stronger than madara