Itachi is seriously over-estimated.
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obito uchiha the wraith
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yes a five point difference is not much but 30 points I major consider it like this. your iq is 95 but someone elses is 30 less.. that's 65 iq that person is retarded by comparison.
obito uchiha the wraith
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hiruzen is an idiot who cant even run his own village why should I care if he thinks a kid thinks like him?
ChocolateVanilla
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Prove it.
If Shikamaru was less lazy, he could easily have been an Anbu captain, much like Itachi.
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I think Shikamaru only exceeds at strategy and planning, while Itachi's intelligence is way more versatile and can adapt very quickly to any unexpected event, also it back ups with Itachi's inmensely better knowledge and wisdom.
Itachi has an overall better mindset than Shikamaru, for god's sake, Kishi made Itachi unbeatable, the fact is that he planned his death TWICE, no one could take him out otherwise, he basically won all his fights before they even started.
Itachi has an overall better mindset than Shikamaru, for god's sake, Kishi made Itachi unbeatable, the fact is that he planned his death TWICE, no one could take him out otherwise, he basically won all his fights before they even started.
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Itachi's intelligence and Shikamaru's intelligence are of completely different natures. I can't believe so many people still don't understand that.
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insid3rkil3r
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Where do you get that from? To say that Shikamaru is smarter isnt streching, just like Itachi being smarter than him isnt streching it either.
Shikamaru was made leader of a genin squad because of his ability to lead and think quickly, he was 13 years old.
Itachi was Anbu captain at 13 years old, leading JOUNIN level shinobi..... this should speak a little of his ability to think quickly and efficiently.
Itachi seems to be as smart as shikamaru to me, but on top of that he is vastly superior to him in battle.
Amaterasu aint special? Susano aint special? You say that because you're looking at the likes of Madara, Naruto and Sasuke who were given Power ups left and right or were given the ability to reach higher heights that only a few could have reached but not without help.
Itachi is one the few who achieved such a high level by doing it the ''legit way'', others being people like Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato and Itachi.
Most of the people stronger than him either stole everybody's power, acquired Senju DNA, or were given the Rinnegan
About his chakra pool, you know he was sick and second, go take a look at his fight against Sasuke again, heres is what he used;
Genjutsu(s)
Tsukuyomi which Sasuke fired back at him
Amaterasu #1
Amaterasu #2
Removed Amaterasu off Sasuke's body
Susano #1 to block Kirin
Susano #2
Sealed Amaterasu within Sasuke
One and done you said right?
You have no idea if the shield was up when Kirin it, as having the weapon / shield out seemed to take a little more time than just spawning Susano.... once the shield was up, nothing could get passed it, invalid statement
SharinganisOP
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no
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Sure, if he uses 8 gates and doesn't get hit with tsukuyomi.
Now, hell no. With kamui, possibly. Still give it a most likely no.
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Be more specific with your version of Madara, at his peak. With rinnegan or higher, unless madara is stupid he wins.
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Obito, Sure.
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No...Solo'd twice...
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ChocolateVanilla
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So much wank in one post
Minato shits on him
Mu shits on him twice
Bee beats him with some difficulty
Kabuto shits
Hashirama lolstomps
Tobirama shits
All versions of Madara shit
Nagato shits
Jiraiya can win if he starts in SM
The rest either lose or are debatable.
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Jiraiya, Tobirama, µ, Minato, and Bee are all debatable. Kabuto might be debatable too.
insid3rkil3r
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A top 20 shouldnt be about the people who can beat him but rather who would rank higher than him overrall,,,, while you think Gaara beats him, it doesnt mean Gaara beats everybody Itachi is able to beat, which means Gaara isnt considered stronger than Itachi in the ened just because he could beat him according to you.
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Kishimoto clearly expressing his thoughts regarding Nagato and itachi's power on the side text
Nagato and Itachi are the strongest Edo tenseis outside of Madara himself, meaning the previous Kages, including Muu, are not considered stronger than them.
If Muu is able to match and defeat Itachi in a one vs one, which i dont believe is the case, he is still not considered a stronger shinobi than Itachi.
Just for the hell of it, The 4th raikage was going for a mutual strikedown against a ''not mastered'' version of Sasuke, who was not on Itachi's level at all yet.... Itachi beats him for sure
Gaara looses
Gai goes for mutual strike down
Kakashi looses
Tobirama looses
Onoki looses
Jiraiya looses
Bee looses
Muu looses or at least isnt stronger than him according to Kishi
Third Raikage would fall to genjutsu
Et prepared Oro Wins, but thats with preparation.... somewhat unfair but ok
Kabuto may or may not, hard to tell
Minato ties imo...
Here are the people i see being stronger than him
Hashirama
Madara
Naruto
Sasuke
Obito
Kabuto (ties/debatable)
Nagato
Minato (ties imo)
Gai could be in that list, but he needs AT LEAST 7th gate..... nothing less will make it
Itachi still makes top 10, far from top 20
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