Itachi has been portrayed as....

[TobisPawn]

Nagato, Madara, and Hashirama are just about the only people that COULD beat itachi. I dont think we're overestimating Itachi, i think you're strongly underestimating him. Imo at least, im not a retarded fanboy

What? How about Tobi, Kabuto, Naruto, and Sasuke?

 

[niknika]

i dont think is is that overhyped, but one guy saying that totsuka would pierce perfect susanoo and that madara's perfect susanoo slash wouldn't destroy itachi's yatta mirror got me, so yes, itachi is a little oh

See, that guy can't be right, just like you can't be right. Yata mirror is said to be the strongest defense in naruto universe ever, so against a strongest offence, we don't know how it will hold so it's left ambiguous. One can't really say one way or another for sure, it would just be an assumption. And you know what happens when you assume? You make an ass out of u and me . Sorry had to say it. On a serious note though. To tusks sword is an ethereal weapon not a material one, so of course material things can't dream I'd piercing susanoos let alone perfect one, but still, we DON'T KNOW if an ethereal object could. Madara can't be denied to be stronger than itachi, but if the equipment works against him, THEN itachi could defeat him. I mean hashi obviously beat Madara with perfect susanoos and he didn't have ethereal weapons. But that was a battle of mini gods so not getting into that

 

[RinneArtist]

Itachi was merely at the limits of his body.
He only fell because his body was falling to disease.
He definitely is one of the strongest characters in Naruto.
He would have owned Sasuke in that fight, as Tobi had stated.
I believe he would beat Nagato in a straight up fight but not the Paths of Pein.
And that is one hell of a feat.
Itachi is powerful and a true hero which is why people overpower him, because they like him.
Everyone wants to see or admit that their favorite character would lose in a fight, duh.
But against some opponents overwhelming power even the strongest opponents fall.
Itachi is not on Hashirama's or Madara's level, though I think in his prime he could have beaten even EMS Sasuke.
Itachi is the prime example of when Brains meet Power and that triumphs 95% percent of opponents.
Fan boys rage and I admit that he is even one of my favorite characters but that shouldn't mean i simply say he's the greatest fighter in the show/manga but I remain a neutral party in fights.
Show some backbone people.

 

[niknika]

i agree with you except on three points

it wasnt 3 vs 1, naruto and bee couldnt touch nagato cause of shinra tensei itachi was the only one able to touch him thanks to amaterasu so technically it was a 1 vs 1 fight.

he did get rid of the real orochimaru, i mean how did he know that a part of orochimaru was sealed in ankos curse seal and itachi was dead before he could find out about kabuto implanting the cells into his own body, so yes in a way he did get rid of orochimaru,this new one is kinda like a clone.

and finally the Uchiha clan massacre happened when they were alive. when sasuke was reliving itachis memory in tsukoyomi it should his family members rushing at an unknown assaliant just to b cut down, plus his parents were awake and talking to itachi before he killed them they just chose not to fight back.

not trying to restart the arguement just i view these three points differently

Good job. Plus rep+
That's what you guys say here right?

 

[TobisPawn]

I swear this guy never wins the polls lol, thats what happens when you try so hard to make Itachi look worse.

The poll results only proves his point even more...

 

[niknika]

i stopped - - a while ago - - lols - - itachi was the only uchiha to take the righteous path - - lets just give him some credibility for that - - atleast !

Wow. Finally. Someone who understand ITACHI and all he means and not just itachi as an uchiha. Good job man. Self sacrifice, being hated. That's an A+ in my book. "he's the hero the shinobi world deserves, but not the hero it needs"

 

[niknika]

If Nagato was aware Itachi was active then we would of been terminated and im not underestimating him im just saying Itachi knew his own strength and Nagatos thats why he never confronted him directly because he would lose


Yeah theres 16,000 Shinobi in Konoha apparently according to Shikamaru so he fought 16,000 people and won.If thats not Bad ass i dunno what is

Yeah and that's what he's tring to say. Itachi DID win. Come on you gotta admit that. Nagato is still godly but there's more to being a ninja than pure strength and that's how itachi beat him. By being a better ninja. This isn't dbz my friend where fights are decided by being the strongest by brute force and power level. There's a reason why jiraiya and itachi are stated as the 2 BEST/"strongest" ninjas by the official data books .

 

[niknika]

he is underrated in the manner when you say he cant compare to sasuke and other kage level ninja and he is overrated in the manner when people say he can beat nagato easy or madara he might not beat them but is definetly on there level (sasuke, killer bee, A, and other kage level ninja)

oh and stfu you made a useless thread and didnt even bother to list his weakness and strengths all you did is say it straight up and expect people to agree with you. i would ussually +rep someone even if i disagreed with them but they stated hard evidence to support there claim. your threads always ask for flame and spam and you almost never back it up. what did you expect for everyone to agree? bring evidence next time if you want me to agree with you

+ rep
About the first part. He's definitely up there. Saying otherwise, EITHER WAY, e.g doesn't stand a chance/Nagato stomps him, or itachi 1 shots Nagato, is pure fanboy ism. Don't know about second part. I'm new

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

...itachi was one of the strongest shinobi of all time... and even had the potential to be the strongest specifically

sure. top 10 but hes nowhere near strongest. even people like haku had potential to become strongest. its whether hes actually strongest that counts

He would have owned Sasuke in that fight, as Tobi had stated.

sasuke who was desperately devoting chakra to holding back oro inside his mind, and was barely jounin level at the time...im so impressed...

I believe he would beat Nagato in a straight up fight

wrong lol. nagato annhilates him

Itachi is the prime example of when Brains meet Power and that triumphs 95% percent of opponents.

no minato and tobi are.

Itachi and Nagato own bee and naru.

considering they werent immortal, bee and naruto were doing very well.

Itachi is powerful and a true hero

itachi is an evil and brutal villain who ruined a childs life and savagely beat two people into comas for no reason.

Yata mirror is said to be the strongest defense in naruto universe ever,

so is third raikages skin, and gaaras armour, and kakuzus armour. all the ones i named were broken or bypassed.

I mean hashi obviously beat Madara with perfect susanoos

how do you know madara constantly used it? maybe he wanted to save it for later and ended up being caught off guard?

And finally, it was never stated by by anyone that itachi alone could not have broken chibaku tenses, especially since he can use multiple has aka magatamas.

if he could break it alone why didnt he?

Nagato, Madara, and Hashirama are just about the only people that COULD beat itachi.

and muu. and danzo. and gaara. and tobi. and minato. and naruto.

nagato got wrecked by naruto when he just had sage mode

nagato when he had just raped the village and was already near death. and despite fighting kyuubi head on, still had enough in the tank to revive the village

what would happen to nagato if they fought full force right now... nagato would get obliterated

by what? we already know all ninjutsu dont work on rinnegan users. and nagatos not exactly slow.

he was far beyond most shinobi a prodigy an genius

when has he demonstrated genius? torturing and murdering children? letting millions of people suffer because hes too cowardly to take the lives of s-class criminals or pass intel to the 5 nations?

come on if he was a real bad guy every one would hav been analy raped

hes one of the worst human beings in narutoverse and everyone wasnt raped. he just tortured evil criminals and made them stronger due to their desire to kill him (oro, deidara, sasuke)

Itachi killed the strongest clan that was staging the Coup d'etat that would have destroyed the village

itachi murdered heroes who were trying to stand up against the corrupt tyrant elders, and regain political power which they had lost due to discrimination. and their baby children because a scary old man said so.

You left that part out. Sure it weakened the village but it was the lesser of two evils

doesnt change the fact it was pure evil to kill babies cos an old man said he should and let another evil old man into the village to "help" him. the village wouldnt be weakened at all had the elders just given uchihas what they wanted, which was political respect.

Who would you rather have: the strongest clan or one of the two guys that wiped them out in one night?

strongest clan. those two guys commited a surprise attack on children women and old men.

According to the data book sick Itachi in part 3 surpasses p3 Sasuke in every stat except stamina.

because sasuke was his hebi version. EMS sauske is superior in every aspect.

Itachi is easily top 10

no he isnt

And if he didnt destroy his clan it would have cause a war with many dead on both sides

no it wouldnt. if he didnt destroy his clan he could have just told them the truth, that tobi did it all and was manipulating all of them. or he could kill fugaku and make everyone think that shisui did it, then kill him too. then as the hero and new leader he could avoid all bloodshed. or he could help his clan launch a suprise attack and blackmail hiruzen after finishing off danzo and homura, into handing over power. then by morning they could make up whatever story they wanted, and tell hiruzen the alternative is war. or shisui could actually be competant and use his other koto eye on fugaku when danzo was busy. there are so many ways they could have stopped the situation other than following danzos obviously manipulative ways.

He embarassed kabuto and made him and sasuke look stupid.

kabuto was kicking his ass till izanmi was finished preparations. and sasuke saved his ass 4 times

did u forgot that he defeated the entire ushiha clan

he would have been beaten easily without tobi

r did u forgot that he defeated sage mode kabuto while protecting

did you forget the only reason he edged out kabuto was edo immortality and sasuke saving him from kabuto when kabuto cut him in half?

Itachi was weakened when HE LET Sasuke kill him

so whyd he use tsukiyomi and get shocked when sasuke broke it?

sacrificed so much for our industry. He's killed his entire family and clan, for the leaf village.

yeah he sacrificed everything except what needed to be sacrificed.

did u forgot that he beat edo nagato while saving naruto's life

did you forget nagato was crippled controlled and facing 3 people at once?

 

[niknika]

he is underrated in the manner when you say he cant compare to sasuke and other kage level ninja and he is overrated in the manner when people say he can beat nagato easy or madara he might not beat them but is definetly on there level (sasuke, killer bee, A, and other kage level ninja)

oh and stfu you made a useless thread and didnt even bother to list his weakness and strengths all you did is say it straight up and expect people to agree with you. i would ussually +rep someone even if i disagreed with them but they stated hard evidence to support there claim. your threads always ask for flame and spam and you almost never back it up. what did you expect for everyone to agree? bring evidence next time if you want me to agree with you

Hey I'm kind of new on here. Sorry man for all the people insulting you but you know it was coming. to answer the simple question, yes itachi is overhyped. He deserves to be overhyped but not to the extremes that some Uchiha fans are doing. he beat powerful people in his style of character. in the manga he is portrayed as the silent but deadly character. though he does not have the rinnengon, he is still considered on nagatos level. Not saying he's stronger but when he was brought back as an edo, he was paired with nagato for a reaaon, they were his kings and Madara was his ace. Jiraiya I would say is onthe same level as nagato and itachi but I dont think he can beat them. itachi is capable of beating sasuke and sasuke is one of the main characters. people think sasuke is weak but he's not. He will have equal development as naruto in the end.

Wow man. Spoken like a true aristocrats. I can tell you're at least a high school grad level in terms of intelligence. Omg. Kings and ace metaphor, bravo. +rep. See, what I saw here Is that a lot of people here are anhadonic, and they're trying tub off that misery on good citizens. And I'm saying this on both sides of the argument. Why? It's ineffable. Good job.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Itachi DID win. Come on you gotta admit that. Nagato is still godly but there's more to being a ninja than pure strength and that's how itachi beat him

itachi didnt win. naruto bee and itachi won. nagato didnt have any intelligence and was just a mindless puppet for someone who doesnt know his full capabilities. nagato had no gedo mazo or six paths puppets. theres more to being a ninja than being smart. itachi stood no chance alone no matter how smart he is.

the fact remains that itachi won, thats how kishi intended it to b and if nagato really did outclass itachi by that much im pretty sure iachi would have had a harder time defeating him but the way kishi wrote it it looked pretty easy for itachi.

it wasnt easy, but fast. itachi was an invincible immortal and nagato couldnt move or think for himself. itachi didnt win. 3 kage level shinobis did.

I mean, he did everything for his village, and protected his brother all he could

no he didnt. he ruined sasukes life, beat him into a coma, murdered his family and savagely mindraped him for no reason, permanently turning sasuke insane. he was trying to destroy his village and kill his former comrades multiple times like when he butchered children and the strongest clan for bullshit reasons, caused pain to try to kill team gai, attacked naruto and tried to capture him etc

Lol itachi beat oro more then one time have u forgotten that he was the reason oro left the akatsuti he tried to take his body and got owned and left like a little crying baby

exactly. he went and got a better vessel candidate (kimimaro). oro had no intention of injuring itachi if he wanted to be his vessel

itachi basically soloed dm kabuto.

no he didnt. kabuto was crippled and wasnt trying to seal itachi and sasuke was a massive help and saved itachi 4 times

tobi didnt try and kill itachi and take shishu eye for a reason.

itachi was his ally. thats why.

itachi sealed nagato and owned on orochimaru

itachi failed to fight oro when it really counted and let the third hokage die because of this. itachi naruto and bee combined sealed nagato

2.itachi> jiraiya. because orochimaru is better than j,

abc logic fails

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

itachi was the only uchiha to take the righteous path

other than HIS ENTIRE CLAN. they heroically declared to lead a revolution and regain what they lost for the sake of anti-corruption. and they died just because their beliefs dont match danzo's and itachis. itachi and danzo were savage brutal child murderers who didnt even care about the lives they ruined and the people they condemned to suffering forever by working with oro instead of destroying him and helping to destroy akatsuki. itachi endangered millions of people and helped s-class criminals.

 

[Itachi2304]

I love how itachi haters ALWAYS refer to Koto Amatsukami as Shisuis power WHEN SHISUI GAVE ITACHI HIS EYE. Why dont you refer to Kakashis sharingan as Obitos powers? or refer to danzos arm as the uchiha power? or to tobis rinnegan as Nagatos power? OR WHY DONT YOU REFER TO NAGATOS EYES AS UCHIHA MADARAS POWER!? you guys are such ****ing hipocrytes. So butthurt because if you add in koto amatsukami to itachis arsenal of usable techniques it will make characters like nagato pale in comparison. Chibaku tensei could have been destroyed by Itachi alone. ****ing deal with it. We have seen BOTH itachi AND madara spam 10 yasaka magatamas at the same time in an instant. If you are telling me 10 yasaka magatamas arent enough to destroy chibaku then you need to reevaluate the entire manga. Not to mention Nagato needs to stand in place and keep his hands held together in order to maintain chibaku tensei.... itachi could either totsuka or amaterasu nagato and end the channelling of chibaku tensei. I dont understand how it wasnt clear to you when kabuto said "nagato clearly lacks the mobility to fight itachi..... Itachi got all the summons in their blinds spots and you cant dodge those.... Itachi is just too good" or when Kabuto said "itachi is clearly on a completely differnet level from everyone else" i dont get how it wasnt clear that itachi is superior to nagato. So butthurt. Koto Amatsukami is the technique of Uchiha Itachi which was given to him by his best friend. Just like Kakashi, Naruto, Sasuke, Tobi, Nagato and many others have techniques which have been given to them from a source other than themselves. As long as they obtain the ability it is considered theirs

It was a 3 vs 1 :|

It was Shisuis power that allowed him to break free :|

Itachi was never able to get rid of Orochimaru fully :|

Itachi killed his clan with Tobi while they were sleeping :|

He is good, don't get me wrong, but overhyped by fans.

 

[Itachi2304]

Itachi sealed Nagato. Naruto and bee only contributed by attacking chibaku with itachi. Which wasnt needed because itachi himself can use several yasaka magatamas at the same time. Also kabuto gave all the credit of Nagatos loss to itachi. Not to mention Nagato himself apologized to Itachi and itachi alone after the fight was over. It is obvious that itachi was the one who killed nagato. Deal with it.

itachi didnt win. naruto bee and itachi won. nagato didnt have any intelligence and was just a mindless puppet for someone who doesnt know his full capabilities. nagato had no gedo mazo or six paths puppets. theres more to being a ninja than being smart. itachi stood no chance alone no matter how smart he is.

it wasnt easy, but fast. itachi was an invincible immortal and nagato couldnt move or think for himself. itachi didnt win. 3 kage level shinobis did.

no he didnt. he ruined sasukes life, beat him into a coma, murdered his family and savagely mindraped him for no reason, permanently turning sasuke insane. he was trying to destroy his village and kill his former comrades multiple times like when he butchered children and the strongest clan for bullshit reasons, caused pain to try to kill team gai, attacked naruto and tried to capture him etc

exactly. he went and got a better vessel candidate (kimimaro). oro had no intention of injuring itachi if he wanted to be his vessel

no he didnt. kabuto was crippled and wasnt trying to seal itachi and sasuke was a massive help and saved itachi 4 times

itachi was his ally. thats why.

itachi failed to fight oro when it really counted and let the third hokage die because of this. itachi naruto and bee combined sealed nagato
abc logic fails

 

[MutantWhale]

He's not. Seriously.

 

[niknika]

because he does

itachi did more to destroy the village than save it when looking at his actions post massacre. and massacring your strongest clan and several powerful jounins is like "hey villages, invade us!"

wrong. the reason hes not as strong is because hes not as strong. he foolishly overused his eyes and went blind. thats entirely his fault.
i dont respect men who abuse and torture their own 7 year old brothers.

2. Don't you think civil war in a village which would wipe out half the shinobi population, including uchiha would've given other villages more advantage over konoha?
3. I think you got itachi confused with assume my friend. Itachi had mangekyou for about ten years and went blind. That wasn't a reason for his sickness. He was I'll from unknown disease which took away his heart. It's stated so I his data book. Unlike assume who overused mangekyou in a day.
And you stated that ours a hater of itachi so you're opinion is biased, so mostly non plausible. But hey, you're honest and I like. That

 

[pdaworld]

....A guy who was around Sage Mode Jiraiya's level. The most powerful guy he beat in a 1 vs 1 was a weakened Orochimaru. Stop comparing him to Nagato, Madara, Hashirama or even Sasuke. Seriously.

actually you have a point. People on this here like to use accomplishments as main proof why someone is stronger that another. itachi was scared of tobi and couldn't beat him yet minato drop tobi and made him run out in a hot minute. Itachi hasn't really beaten anybody in the manga.

 

[VangBro95]

GTFO troll. He could've killed sasuke at least twice when they fought. And now who did nagato beat?. You underrate itachi

Pain beat Hanzo, and destroyed Konoha.

 

[takiyacrowz]

deal with it itachi fans
he tried to kill tobi by planting amaterasu
failed
he tried to stop edo madara
failed
he tried to seal orochimaru and guess what
no surprises he failed

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[Henchman24]

....A guy who was around Sage Mode Jiraiya's level. The most powerful guy he beat in a 1 vs 1 was a weakened Orochimaru. Stop comparing him to Nagato, Madara, Hashirama or even Sasuke. Seriously.

Jiraiya could take Sasuke.