Itachi could easily defeat Orochimaru and yet was scared of Jiraiya

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No, it's because 1. Itachi doesn't want to bring trouble for just naruto 2. He doesn't want to kill the strongest shinobi in konoha, cause that would render then powerless. Itachi could easily beat jiraiya, but he's too smart for that. he knows it wont get him anywhere and would just start trouble for nothing.
 

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Scared of Jiraiya?

Didn't he say to Kisame earlier that they weren't going to start a massive battle and alert the whole village of their presence?

He was being smart, he wasn't scared.
 

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Nobody (sensible) actually believes that Jiraiya > Itachi. That is just something idiots try to perpetuate in a desperate attempt to make Itachi look weaker.

Kakashi was wondering why Itachi didn't finish him off with Tsukuyomi. Jiraiya had no idea what Amaterasu was. Itachi could have killed either of them, but didn't, because he true motives was just to warn the Konoha Elder's that he's "still alive".
 

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It would be inconvenient for his double agent disguise if he captured Naruto. When Jiraiya came along, Itachi seised his opportunity to avoid catching naruto and fled with kisame on the pretext that Jiraiya might Solo them.
So Itachi cared for the leaf?

Okay, why did he f*ck Kakashi up so bad if what you say is true?

Simple, Jiraiya is superior to Itachi. Even Kisame admitted inferiority.
 

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So Itachi cared for the leaf?

Okay, why did he f*ck Kakashi up so bad if what you say is true?

Simple, Jiraiya is superior to Itachi. Even Kisame admitted inferiority.
It is set in stone Itachi cared for Konoha. Why else would he murder his family? He did that to Kakashi to defeat him without killing him. Even Kakashi questioned why Itachi didn't kill him. Itachi is better than Jiraiya. He had all the reasons in the world to lie and no reason to fight Jiraiya.
 

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So Itachi cared for the leaf?
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Okay, why did he f*ck Kakashi up so bad if what you say is true?
You mean incapacitate him without physically hurting him at all?

Simple, Jiraiya is superior to Itachi.
Lol

Even Kisame admitted inferiority.
Kisame was talking about the Fox. The subject shifted to Jiraiya, and you know what Kisame actually said?

He said his title (One of the Mist's seven swordsmen) paled in comparison to the title of "Sannin."
 

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Anybody that actually reads can see that the subject shifts from Naruto (Kurama) to Jiriaya.

Because Itachi and Kisame were there to capture Kurama.

Itachi said he could stalemate Kurama's Jinchūriki‎, whose power level hadn't been surmised.

Later, it's shown that Kisame's surprised that Kurama's Jinchūriki‎ is Naruto, a young boy.

And it's no coincidence that Kisame didn't think they needed to retreat from Jiraiya.

Or that Itachi said there was no need to rush because of Naruto's level.

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You mean incapacitate him without physically hurting him at all?
He hurt him to the point where only Tsunade could heal him and seeing as how Tsunade was not in the leaf for many years, I would say he did want to hurt him.
 

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He hurt him to the point where only Tsunade could heal him and seeing as how Tsunade was not in the leaf for many years, I would say he did want to hurt him.
Yeah, honestly I'm not sure if the author had made up his mind at that point.

But still, Itachi likely knew that Kakashi could be woken from the coma, or would awake eventually.

Ultimately, it didn't physically harm Kakashi and Itachi maintained his cover, plus he gave Konoha knowledge of his jutsu.
 

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So many people take Jiraiya lightly it's not even funny.

If Jiriaya had any knowledge of Pain's abilities; he would have won, as per what Nagato himself said.
Jiraiya's SM is superior to Naruto's; keep in mind that SM Naruto fought on par with Pain and beat the 3rd Raikage.

Also Itachi's genjutsu's are useless because of Ma and Pa. His speed and strength are superior and his intellect is equal to Itachi's.
All that plus his Toad summons, Rasengan, and battle experience put him just one step above Itachi IMO.
What? Naruto's SM is superior to Jiraiya's. Jiraiya transformed more into a frog like his nose and stuff. Naruto's eyes only changed.
 

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Anybody that actually reads can see that the subject shifts from Naruto (Kurama) to Jiriaya.

Because Itachi and Kisame were there to capture Kurama.

Itachi said he could stalemate Kurama's Jinchūriki‎, whose power level hadn't been surmised.

Later, it's shown that Kisame's surprised that Kurama's Jinchūriki‎ is Naruto, a young boy.

And it's no coincidence that Kisame didn't think they needed to retreat from Jiraiya.

Or that Itachi said there was no need to rush because of Naruto's level.

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Hum are we reading the same thing he's clearly talking about jiraiya
 

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What? Naruto's SM is superior to Jiraiya's. Jiraiya transformed more into a frog like his nose and stuff. Naruto's eyes only changed.
That means nothing...
His speed and strength boosts were in no way better than Naruto's.

Jiraiya's SM was superior because he could stay in Sage Mode indefinitely whereas Naruto has a 5 minute Time Limit.
Jiraiya is also able to fuse with Ma and Pa meaning that he can continue fighting while one of them gather nature energy, the fusion also makes Jiraiya Immune to Genjutsu.

This is why his SM is superior.
 
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