By their positioning on the stairs, it is inferred that they were likely going up the stairs with Orochimaru behind Itachi. since going down Itachi would have been behind Orochimaru, not an optimal position for Orochimaru to attack. Not taken from the filler, just logical positioning on a staircase and optimal attack timing for Orochimaru. There are clearly differen't levels of fatigue. He can wait longer to switch out his body if he wants, which is the situation he was in with sasuke (and to remind you in that situation he was still able to fight fairly well, and thats with no arms). With the situation with Itachi you could clearly tell he was in no such sort of physical fatigued pain. And don't ask me what orochimaru's plan was, hes the one who tried attacking Itachi, subdue him somehow I guess with poision or a curse mark. Also it's more like Itachi let orochimaru leave after cutting off his hand and sparing his life.
Last of his energy, okay. Then how was he confident in being able to heal himself after being stabbed by the totsuka blade? He had to have enough to regenerate himself at the least, which is more chakra than Itachi had.
Facing an Uchiha in a 1vs1 is extremely dangerous because of their genjutsu ability. Itachi was able to beat them because their genjutsu would have no effect on him because he can break out since he outclasses their genjutsu. Their are ways to break out of genjutsu, one involves pain and another involves disrupting your chakra. Both of which aren't easy, but I assume the senju went through strict training to break genjutsu when the two clans were fighting each other. Why did they almost beat Sasuke, well they are strong. Sasuke even used genjutsu on Orochimaru and Diedara (diedara trained against genjutsu btw). And Danzo had an ability to keep him alive through death 10 times. A cut off his arm. Bee is with a tailed beast and is never truly alone. Also Sasuke isn't the best planner in comparison to Itachi, or the best at genjutsu.
Proof that he needed it to win? Also those duplicates weren't perfect, they didn't have all of Itachi's strength. You also have to remember that Itachi was holding himself back as he wouldn't want to kill some of the leafs strongest ninja.
DIDN'T HAVE THE STRENGTH OF A HOKAGE? ARE YOU KIDDING. With a single glance his genjutsu is capable of beating most people, his tsukuyomi all but guarantees his victory against most people. And then he has amaterasu, a move that someone of kage level speed cannot dodge. If you don't see how he had the strength of a kage by the time he unlocked his MS, you must be high as a kite.
It wasn't just danzo and hiruzen btw, it was danzo hiruzen and other anbu members (possibly including Itachi). And it never shows how many people Either Itachi or Obito kill, It is doubtful that Obito helped him get into any of the places as that would show Itachi his ability close up something he wouldn't want to do. Anyways my point is Obito likely didn't help him directly kill anyone, he was probably off killing by himself.
Edit: Oh ya, still waiting for your answer on who is superior to him in being a genius.
Orochimaru wasn't going to "attack" though, trading bodies does not involve any form of physical violence. Orochimaru must also be facing the individual to trade bodies so he couldn't do it behind Itachi.
When Orochimaru got his hand cut off he was under duress, any other time he'd be smiling and acting smug. He wasn't in great shape. As I said too, he can only trade bodies when he's dying, so since he was trying to take Itachi's body, he was dying. This isn't even debatable.
Orochimaru didn't look too worried about healing with Totsuka stuck in his chest, he is immortal. Besides, he was planning on taking Sasuke's body which had no swords sticking out of it.
Itachi had enough chakra to keep Susanoo up, so that isn't an accurate point.
So... while he's breaking out of one, don't a few others blitz him? Genjutsu is just a plot device anyway, it's hardly a factor unless Kishimoto needs it for shock value or something. Everyone's going to have some kind of trick at dealing with genjutsu, otherwise Shii would solo Ei. Don't fall too much for the Sharingan hype, even those strong opponents disproves that hype.
Itachi didn't win the first time until he used MS, and he didn't win the second time without MS. If Itachi doesn't need MS to win, it will be a hard fight, one he didn't have time for in pt.1.
The clones should have all of Itachi's strength. It had his intelligence, skill, jutsus, everything. Nagato's Shapeshifter jutsu turns a sacrifice into a perfect duplicate, even able to use the Sharingan. The duplicate even has 100% of the sacrifice's chakra and 30% of Itachi's chakra.
If Itachi is as strong as you believe he is, then he had the option of incapacitating them. He could not.
Genjutsu doesn't make you Kage-level, or else Kurenai would be running the place. Don't forget either that Itachi can look at someone all he wants, he is NOT casting genjutsu or Tsukiyomi unless they stare directly into Itachi's eyes. Sasuke dodged Amaterasu, Ei dodged Amaterasu, Bee's tail was fast enough to block Amaterasu, Tobirama saw Amaterasu before and it obviously didn't kill him, and it's also not going to do anything to Naruto- Don't overestimate it.
Yeah, with the MS he gained Kage-level power. However, the way you worded it, you made it sound like you were talking about when he was 8 or something when he had a Kage's mindset and power.
Anbu are fodder, they'd drop like flies. They probably did split up, but what I was getting at is that it wasn't them vs. an entire clan all at once, they were sneaking into houses and picking them off quietly.
Actually I asked you to show
me how he's superior to everyone else of notable status. It was your claim, justify it.
Lmao no no and no. If Orochimaru wasn't strong enough to take Itachi's body in the way you are saying it he would've simply stated that he wasn't strong enough to take his body but in that scan he clearly said that Itachi was stronger than him. The severed hand was supposed to show us the readers that they have fought before and was proof that he was defeated in that fight. Why would he say Itachi is stronger than him? He wouldn't admit that if he was just trying to take his body. Why? Because he clearly knew Itachi was superior to him.
LOL learn context? Stop trying to be a smart a** m8.
Orochimaru did simply say he wasn't strong enough to take Itachi's body "I can't take his body, I'm not strong enough." You are taking a sentence that means one thing and you're trying to take it out of context.
The hand was from that one night and it wasn't a fight; Orochimaru tried to take Itachi's body, Itachi used genjutsu to stop him, Orochimaru went to break it with a handseal and Itachu cut off his hand. Orochimaru then left to get a different body since he couldn't take Itachi's.
Orochimaru didn't say "in a comparison of our mutual abilities as shinobi he's superior to me," no. Orochimaru said "Itachi's too strong for me to forcibly take over his body." That's what Orochimaru was saying, that getting Itachi's body is an impossible dream. Orochimaru did not suddenly switch to an entirely different topic in one sentence.
