Itachi cannot beat EMS Sasuke...
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RikudouMadara
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What about the obvious gap in wisdom, knowledge, skill, and equanimity? With Itachi being far above imho. Also....I believe Itachi is still superior, just my opinion Dante.
ReverseZero12
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Itachi's stamina is garbage. He's limited to 3 MS techniques at a time and he can't hold susanoo for very long. He can't keep up with current sasuke who has developed his eyes beyond itachi's eyes and has a much more advanced arsenal than him. It's been evident for a long time that he has surpassed itachi so this isn't even debatable. And Itachi isn't even top 10.
I agree with the Tsukyomi portion considering it is true Sasuke is the ONLY person capable of breaking tsukyomi.
As far as the Totsuka blade though I strongly disagree.
Just cause something is a variant does not mean its = in strength...
Example.. Rib Cage Susanoo and Perfect susanoo are variants of Susanoo.. Does that mean they are =? So why should this apply to Totsuka and Kusanagi?
The Sword of Totsuka is the
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for Kusanagi blade and considering Kusanagi lost it is clear Totsuka is stronger than it. Secondly you say it's physical and not spiritual when Manga confirms it has no physical form [
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Further more there are plenty of things in this manga that has no physical form yet can cause physical damage. That was plain silly for you to say as a counter
Lastly, the reason why this Argument is invalid is cause we don't know how powerful the liquid of the Totsuka blade is. Although based on feats it has cut through everything that went against it.
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You may not realize it but there is something about that liquid that seems to allow it to cut through anything. Also it is not chakra due to
Manga and Databook as well as Feats
Feats proving it is not chakra:
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when it clearly shows he should be able to absorb ninjutsu
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Nagato could not sense Totsuka coming for him due to it not being Chakra
totsuka is the best counter for every person in Naruto considering it is the only weapon capable of sealing and destroying effortlessly.
Anyways overall Sasuke would win this fight due to Itachi would never want to kill him and he would out last Itachi.
Just wanted to clear up the Totsuka myths and show that it truly is OP
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Optimistic
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Sasuke's Susano'o is huge compared to Itachi's.Its like a 5ft 5cm guy vs a turtle(yata mirror = shell).
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Madara's PS/V4 is bigger than the Tailed Beasts and Hashirama can make golems bigger than them and restrain them.Lol
Try again.You're probably the small minority who thinks Itachi wins this am i right?
Prince Charles
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The winner in the end would be sasuke but just to clarify sasuke has not totally surpassed Itachi, the only reason I give it to sasuke is because of his mini PS and overall better stamina and enton/amaterasu spam.
I feel as though we have never seen itachi go full out nor shown his true arsenal and techniques due to his lack of being in fights in the manga.
I feel as though we have never seen itachi go full out nor shown his true arsenal and techniques due to his lack of being in fights in the manga.
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Optimistic
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Mini PS still makes Itachi look like an ant especially when his V3 is bigger than all Bijuu's(besides Yin/Yang Kyuubi).
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Now add the ridiculous size gap between V3 and V4 and then PS.
VolatileSoul
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A fight between these two will utterly come down to who will last the longest, as they are pretty much immune to each others techniques, and this is accounting for Yata Mirrors hype, as I am one of the few people who consider it. Itachi's genjutsu will not work on Sasuke and vice versa, and both their Susano'o withstand each others ninjutsu and taijutsu attacks. Sasuke has more stamina, so he would win if they fought. Plain and simple. Itachi's superior skill isn't a factor as Sasuke is extremely skilled as well, and no amount of skill can make up for overwhelming defensive and offensive power. Itachi's intelligence is negligible as well, as Sasuke is just as intelligent as his brother, believe it or not.
Totsuka has no hype of being unblockable and has no feat of piercing anything stronger than flesh. It also has no feat of even hitting a moving target, so I really can't put Itachi above Sasuke based on this alone. Izanami won't work on Sasuke as he isn't having an identity crisis nor is he going through some form of denial. Plus, he already has intel on it and knows how it works as well as how to break out. Finally, Itachi isn't going go through that ridiculous setup in a fight against someone as powerful as Sasuke without backup and where he can actually die.
As for who is stronger and who would win if they fought, it is unquestionably Sasuke, as he has far more raw power and far more stamina. As for who is the better shinobi, it is Itachi, although Sasuke is only behind by a small margin. He has more experience and knowledge and is more refined than Sasuke and has more finesse, as well as having superior skill in basic shinobi skills. Of course, Sasuke is fast approaching this level and will surpass it soon enough.
Totsuka has no hype of being unblockable and has no feat of piercing anything stronger than flesh. It also has no feat of even hitting a moving target, so I really can't put Itachi above Sasuke based on this alone. Izanami won't work on Sasuke as he isn't having an identity crisis nor is he going through some form of denial. Plus, he already has intel on it and knows how it works as well as how to break out. Finally, Itachi isn't going go through that ridiculous setup in a fight against someone as powerful as Sasuke without backup and where he can actually die.
As for who is stronger and who would win if they fought, it is unquestionably Sasuke, as he has far more raw power and far more stamina. As for who is the better shinobi, it is Itachi, although Sasuke is only behind by a small margin. He has more experience and knowledge and is more refined than Sasuke and has more finesse, as well as having superior skill in basic shinobi skills. Of course, Sasuke is fast approaching this level and will surpass it soon enough.
Optimistic
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I seriously don't understand how this is even debatable anymore?
The gap between Sasuke and Itachi in power wise is so huge that it shouldn't ever be a match between the two....Sasuke's is 3 or 4 tiers above him at this time in the current manga.
VolatileSoul
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Totsuka cannot pierce Susano'o, as it behave in a physical manner. It decapitated the serpents' heads and pierced Orochimaru who bled from the mouth. This gives it clear physical attributes. Also, Sasuke has been using EMS Techniques on and off ever since he took off his bandages with no signs of fatigue. He beats Itachi by simply outlasting him by a mile. How is this even debatable is beyond me.