Itachi cannot beat EMS Sasuke...
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Shunsin no Shisui
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Thread fail. U_U
Regardless of whether Itachi's Susano is stronger than Sasuke's even with the spiritual weapons, Itachi still takes this by using Izanami.
Although Itachi would lose an eye in the process, but the outcome would be Sasuke looking idol while his mind is running in circles. Another thing is that Sasuke doesn't know how to break out of Izanami, whereas more skillful Uchiha such as Madara and perhaps Obito can probably get out of it more easily. :yeah:
SHISUI gave him MS
SHISUI taught him about the "will of fire" ideal
SHISUI taught him how to live like a loyal and skillful ninja
SHISUI taught him everything he needed to know about genjutsu
SHISUI gave him his eye to use Kotoamatsukami for benefit of the village
If it wasn't for Shisui, Itachi would be a good for nothing weakling not worthy of being considered an Uchiha and thus he would probably be eventually killed in war or a battle. U_U
Regardless of whether Itachi's Susano is stronger than Sasuke's even with the spiritual weapons, Itachi still takes this by using Izanami.
Although Itachi would lose an eye in the process, but the outcome would be Sasuke looking idol while his mind is running in circles. Another thing is that Sasuke doesn't know how to break out of Izanami, whereas more skillful Uchiha such as Madara and perhaps Obito can probably get out of it more easily. :yeah:Pff... the same can be said about Itachi. :| He has Shisui's blessings. :yeah:
SHISUI gave him MS
SHISUI taught him about the "will of fire" ideal
SHISUI taught him how to live like a loyal and skillful ninja
SHISUI taught him everything he needed to know about genjutsu
SHISUI gave him his eye to use Kotoamatsukami for benefit of the village
If it wasn't for Shisui, Itachi would be a good for nothing weakling not worthy of being considered an Uchiha and thus he would probably be eventually killed in war or a battle. U_U
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itachi4real
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Not exactly when we know for a fact Totsuka is physical and can be dodged or deflected normally like a regular sword. Either way Sasuke stands the victor. You're just to bias to admit it.
itachi4real
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When did shisui give itachi ms?Thread fail. U_U
Regardless of whether Itachi's Susano is stronger than Sasuke's even with the spiritual weapons, Itachi still takes this by using Izanami.
Pff... the same can be said about Itachi. :| He has Shisui's blessings. :yeah:
SHISUI gave him MS
SHISUI taught him about the "will of fire" ideal
SHISUI taught him how to live like a loyal and skillful ninja
SHISUI taught him everything he needed to know about genjutsu
If it wasn't for Shisui, Itachi would be a good for nothing weakling not worthy of being considered an Uchiha and thus he would probably be eventually killed in war or a battle. U_U
Will of fire? He had it at age seven
Like i said he knew how to be loyal at age seven due to him having ideals of hokage at age seven
And yea shisui prolly taught him everything about genjutsu but does it say it in the manga? Just a question cus i wanna see
itachi4real
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No...if u read my first post i said he counters all his techs and if he can find a way around yata and to not get pierced then sasuke wins
itachi4real
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One big downfall fpr sasukevis that hes impatient and against itachi that wont help at all
NarutoIndra
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Yata Mirror is only a defense. Once Itachi dies from stamina it's no longer a problem.
Itachi can't do anything to beat Sasuke. Theres not a trick Itachi that Sasuke has not already seen and doesn't have a counter for.
Itachi will die from exhaustion keeping Yata Mirror and Totuska to fight Sasuke. Sasuke already counters all of ITachi's techs. Sasuke wins 10/10.
ITACHI-SASUKE
Shurikenjutsu-counters
Suiton-Raiton
Katon-Katon
Clones-Sharingan
Genjutsu-Sharingan
Tsukuyomi-EMS
Amaterasu-Enton
Itachi's only logical means of survival is Yata and his intelligence
Totsuka regardless of the hype fans may give it has been shown with the ability to cut, meaning it interfaces with matter rather than pass through it.
Totsuka has shown no feats giving it the capabilities of cutting through Susanoo.
The fact is Itachi lacks a single technique that can overwhelmSasuke except for Izanami, which Sasuke already has Intel on.
Itachi is nearsighted, sickly, and prone, to the aftereffects of MS.
Even if Itach was healthy Sasuke has too many counters, too much Intel, and a better arsenal with more chakra to utilize it.
SASUKE TAKES IT HANDS DOWN.
Shurikenjutsu-counters
Suiton-Raiton
Katon-Katon
Clones-Sharingan
Genjutsu-Sharingan
Tsukuyomi-EMS
Amaterasu-Enton
Itachi's only logical means of survival is Yata and his intelligence
Totsuka regardless of the hype fans may give it has been shown with the ability to cut, meaning it interfaces with matter rather than pass through it.
Totsuka has shown no feats giving it the capabilities of cutting through Susanoo.
The fact is Itachi lacks a single technique that can overwhelmSasuke except for Izanami, which Sasuke already has Intel on.
Itachi is nearsighted, sickly, and prone, to the aftereffects of MS.
Even if Itach was healthy Sasuke has too many counters, too much Intel, and a better arsenal with more chakra to utilize it.
SASUKE TAKES IT HANDS DOWN.
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itachi4real
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All based on exhaustion? Yall fail to understand sasuke runs out of chakra easily also like in the fight with itachi and deidara. Now if sasuke grew some chakra reserves then the same can be said for sasuke
Umari Senju
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And the only 2 people it 1 shotted were immobilzed and already deafeated more or less. Your same argument holds true in Sasuke's Defense. You think Sasuke is just going to stand there and let Itachi use it on him? Itachi would have to immobolize and defeat Sasuke before sealing him. So does that mean you are in denile too? As I stated these techniques are highly overrated just because Itachi is using them.
Itachi wouldn't even get the chance to use these. and if he did, Sasuke would keep him so busy with defending himself he would run out of chakra and stamina before he gets the chance to actually go on the offesnive with these. Try not to fanboy about this and really think about it.
We are not talking about MS Sasuke but EMS Sasuke. You know, the Sasuke that had a hand in defeating the The 2nd Sage of Six Paths. Itachi is not going to 1 shot him nor will he win this fight.
"Every jutsu has a weakness."
Remember? Those were Itachi's words in fact.
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Sasuke already had a larger chakra reserve than Itachi. With EMS Sasuke lasts much longer than Itachi can in battle because the side effects of MS are diminished. Sasuke has not been exhausted since the beginning of the war compared to when a couple of MS techs use to exhaust him. I thought Sasukes superior stamina would be common knowledge by now.
NarutoIndra
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What? Sasuke has EMS, has attacks put less strain on him and are less chakra taxing. He wins in any way you look at this fight. His PS>Itachi's v4 Susano.
itachi4real
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I honestly believe there is more to a fight that just sheer attack and defense power.
Itachi would easily be able to take advantage of Sasuke's personality and arrogance. Hell, he's done it all throughout the Manga. Itachi will bide his time on the defensive, until he sees an opening or manipulation.
Itachi would easily be able to take advantage of Sasuke's personality and arrogance. Hell, he's done it all throughout the Manga. Itachi will bide his time on the defensive, until he sees an opening or manipulation.
Shunsin no Shisui
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These manga scans can speak for themselves...
It is stated by Tobirama that "when Uchiha suffer after experiencing the loss of a loved one... special chakra sprouts inside their brains, which affects the optic nerve and produces a change in their eyes." [
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] He was refering to the sharingan and if they suffer the loss of a loved one once again, the eyes evolve into MS. [
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] If your struggling to believe whether Itachi awakened his MS 'cause of Shisui or not, then perhaps you need to read manga chapter 222 again and analyze story a little more while at the same time taking Tobirama's words into consideration. :yeah:
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Itachi was still learning knowledge about his clan and about shinobi as a child and was in a way neutral, because he wasn't possessed by the corruption of his clan nor was he on the straight path. All until guys like Shisui came to help guide him to the right way. The Third Hokage said his reasoning was like a Hokage's at age 7, not that he learn't everything there was to know. Afterall, it is almost impossible for someone to know what's right and wrong at such an age. hmm
Now check these manga scans how Itachi praises Shisui...
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