don't forget that genjutsu fails on j man because in sage mode he merge with the two frogs.genjutsu wins... sharingan give advantage
Jiraiya vs pain. He would just catch them in the toads mouth were they wouldn;t even bee able to see. And Jiraiya also knows how to break-free from genjutsu.genjutsu wins... sharingan give advantage
he knows how to break free of most, but itachi's genjutsu is on a completely different level... Kakashi couldn't break free, or fight it even with his sharingan in part 1Jiraiya vs pain. He would just catch them in the toads mouth were they wouldn;t even bee able to see. And Jiraiya also knows how to break-free from genjutsu.
he only said things like that to keep kisame from fighting...i believe he volunteer to go after the nine tails to protect naruto...i also believe all those times he said he needed to rest that he really didnt need to...it was just cause he knew that kisame had respect for him and would listen without question...he had multiple opportunities to catch naruto...and no he took itachi's eyes cause he needs to see..I beleive Itachi admitts that he can't beat Jiraiya. And as for Naruto and Sauske.... Imma just say that I don't think Sauske couldv'e beaten the PO6P. And I think that's why he got Itachi's eye atfer touching fist with Naruto. He felt the power that Naruto had(before he could control some of the Kyubi chakra)
dont forget that he needs alot of time for sage mode and b4 he can run hes caught in a genjutsuU_Udon't forget that genjutsu fails on j man because in sage mode he merge with the two frogs.
that easy huh? yea they wouldnt see it coming...Jiraiya vs pain. He would just catch them in the toads mouth were they wouldn;t even bee able to see. And Jiraiya also knows how to break-free from genjutsu.
exactly he aint breaking it...itachi is the greatest genjutsu user of all timehe knows how to break free of most, but itachi's genjutsu is on a completely different level... Kakashi couldn't break free, or fight it even with his sharingan in part 1
like chiyo said, 1v1 against sharingan, run...
tell me...how is that? cause thats funny as hell:flaw:this thread is epic fail. every one knows jiraiya could beat the crap out of itachi and sasuke with little to no help from naruto. i mean if two..not one but two akatsuki members who super powerful wouldn't even try to fight jiraiya by themselves what makes you think itachi and that cheap piece of crap excuse for a brother of his could beat jiraiya. plus naruto is way to Op'd. xd
when kisame and itachi went after naruto(you know when itachi broke sasukes arm) kisame wanted to fight jiraiya but itachi told him that he wouldn't win and that he doubted that even he could beat him. itachi and kisame are way better then sasuke. so if those to couldn't and wouldn't try to fight him what chance does sasuke have.plus naruto is to op'dtell me...how is that? cause thats funny as hell:flaw:
itachi did that because he never planned on capturing naruto....and to keep kisame from effin stuff up like he always does...he basically just keeps kisame from killing ppl i think ppl just take to much from it...if jiraiya and itachi fought i dont see how he would win honestly...when kisame and itachi went after naruto(you know when itachi broke sasukes arm) kisame wanted to fight jiraiya but itachi told him that he wouldn't win and that he doubted that even he could beat him. itachi and kisame are way better then sasuke. so if those to couldn't and wouldn't try to fight him what chance does sasuke have.plus naruto is to op'd
the way i see it is itachi while walk away while sasukes dumb ass tries to fight. and no itachi isn't being a coward he's just not being a dumb ass. U_U
see that kinda of logic is annoying to me...its all about matchups...for instance...-_- jiraiya nearly kilt all the 6POP by himself. no disrespect but itachi wouldn't have been able to do that and neither would kisame.
(finally a noob that can argue their point with evidence and actually make since and for kudos to you sir)see that kinda of logic is annoying to me...its all about matchups...for instance...
naruto can beat pain right? due to the fox and enormous chakra he has...but he would lose to itachi due to as soon as they meet because...bam...hes in a genjutsu its a wrap...but also itachi would lose to pain because pain is 6 ppl and itachi cant detain em all with genjutsu plus his chakra reserve is seemingly low...u see wat im trying to get at?U_U
u cant just say because this person beat or nearly beat this person that they are better than this person...lol i can easily say itachi raped oro with his back turned in like 10 sec so how is jiraya gonna last any longer?now on to the topic
it doesnt matter if jiraya can kill more painsU_Udoes that really make him better?
jiraya had to go to sage mode in which takes quite a bit of time not to mention he cant move his hands at all...and had an advantage cause of the environment with pipes everywhere...wat if they fought on flat land?...its over...wat if he brings out all pains from the start? its over...
as for kisame...i dont kno about that...that guy is a monster he gets stronger as u get weaker...the longer u fight him the stronger and better he gets which is really the only way to beat pain...u need some1 with huge chakra reserves to last long...kisame can do that...lol i dont think jiraya can beat killer bee easily but kisame str8 raped the guy who raped sasuke lmfao...guy is one of the few that can handle kisame simply because he has afternoon tiger...thats it...not saying j-man wouldnt beat kisame i think kisame is immensly underrated tho...
point being tho...it doesnt matter that he killed 3 pains...look at itachi's and kisame's body of work...lol do u really think he can beat them BOTH by himself???![]()
yup and ur another noob(cant stand that word) who aint saying nothing..."jiraya is better because he doesnt rely on genjutsu"...lol really?...really?(finally a noob that can argue their point with evidence and actually make since and for kudos to you sir)
yes i see what you are trying to say. but yes jiraiya is better because not does he not relly on genjutsu he has no kekkai genkai unlike itachi and sasuke. jiraiya would beat pein through pure skill not because he inherited a special ability. in narutos case his gift was a curse that wouldn't him die for its need for survival. learning sage mode was good because not only did it make him stronger but allowed him to not always relly on the kyuubi.
and as for kisame you could beat him with alot bait and a really huge fishing pole:ghehe:
i resent that. i joined NB like 9 months after it was made.yup and ur another noob(cant stand that word) who aint saying nothing..."jiraya is better because he doesnt rely on genjutsu"...lol really?...really?
on to the sharingan...for one u gotta unlock it by near death experience...second ya gotta kill the closest person too u...do u kno how hard that is to do?why do u think MS is rare too see?...and naruto always relys on the kyuubi...jiraya doesnt stand a chance against itachi alone unless he goes to sage mode...itachi likes to end fights quickly so jiraya isnt even gonna have time to blink...
and all ya need is some porn magazines for jiraya anyway![]()