Itachi and Nagato CANT be compared...

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but he was in genjutsu but was able to move a path and also surprised jaraiya from behind= meaning he had councoiuness in his mind right after the genjutsu ended

no it was after jiraya released the genjutsu u probably forgot that about the manga but let me give u links

see here is the genjutsu


see here is when he kills them and notice that they are not in genjutsu anymore


and thats when they come


And they come after he releases the jutsu which suggests that he was under genjutsu
 
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lol dude naruto said that if itachi uses tsukuyomi or amaterasu against bee that the fight is over. He knows that bee is a jinchuuriki and that he is immune to genjitsu (well not itachis lol that was pretty damn evident) and he still said that. That is proof that his tsukuyomi also works on jinchuuriki. And it doesnt matter if pein has control of his chakra. He cannot break tsukuyomi... come on... Dude he has control over his chakra and he couldnt even break jirayas genjitsu. which caught 3 bodies. Are u seriously saying that he can break tsukuyomi? kakshi even said the effects cannot be evaded. and that it is unbreakable. Dude tsukuyomi is a 1 hit ko against pein. Pein is no different than kakashi is considering his immunity to tsukuyomi.
do you expect kakashi even at time with no great control of his chakra o break genjutsu, one of the major rules is to disrupt.
i never said his path could break him out but said he has mastery with his chakra
wow will nagato try to absorb it when he free from kabuto control= the answer is if he did he wouldn't be unreleased and kabuto can tighten his control over nagato again but genjutsu is different story since it manipulated his edo tensai summon allowing itachi to do a mission from shishu.

again it wouldn't matter if itachi genjutsu is an instant because nagato has great mastery of his chakra.well are you going to say when you're a perfect jinchurriki and you rely on a tailed beast to disrupt chakra that it wouldn't work on tsykuyomi since kakashi doesn't have great mastery of his chakra.

the other rule is it doesn't matter how good the genjutsu is if your able to have mastery of you're own chakra or a partner sync in you like a tailed beast that are have great chakra it will disrupt that genjutsu but they will be in it but they will break out and wouldn't be affected much.
 

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lol dude naruto said that if itachi uses tsukuyomi or amaterasu against bee that the fight is over. He knows that bee is a jinchuuriki and that he is immune to genjitsu (well not itachis lol that was pretty damn evident) and he still said that. That is proof that his tsukuyomi also works on jinchuuriki. And it doesnt matter if pein has control of his chakra. He cannot break tsukuyomi... come on... Dude he has control over his chakra and he couldnt even break jirayas genjitsu. which caught 3 bodies. Are u seriously saying that he can break tsukuyomi? kakshi even said the effects cannot be evaded. and that it is unbreakable. Dude tsukuyomi is a 1 hit ko against pein. Pein is no different than kakashi is considering his immunity to tsukuyomi.

sasuke can break it but others not likely and i don't think its invincible(no jutsu is even itachi said that) as u put it but nagato is certainly not immune as ppl think he is
 

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So why nagatito is dead nuffsays
 

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So why nagatito is dead nuffsays

why is rikudo senin or minato dead, just becos someone dies does not mean they are weaker than someone else dude.
 

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lol this thead went from don't campare nagato and itachi with anybody to an all out itachi vs nagato argument.

but yeah i think minato, madara, 3 hokage, hashirama and shikamaru are capable of raping nagato and itachi. and many others tooo
 

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lol this thead went from don't campare nagato and itachi with anybody to an all out itachi vs nagato argument.

but yeah i think minato, madara, 3 hokage, hashirama and shikamaru are capable of raping nagato and itachi. and many others tooo

Shikamaru? LOL

Minato, Madara, and Hashirama are capable of beating Nagato and Itachi but they both can still put up a good fight against any of them, at least IMO.

Who wins will just be opinions and assumptions.
 

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lol this thead went from don't campare nagato and itachi with anybody to an all out itachi vs nagato argument.

but yeah i think minato, madara, 3 hokage, hashirama and shikamaru are capable of raping nagato and itachi. and many others tooo

explain to me how the hell shikamaru would rape nagato lol?:shrug: ... i think nagato is capable of beating the third and minato and itachie but im sure they could beat him to. itachie and nagato will be the two most greatest characters in naruto, not the best but the most liked.
 

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So why nagatito is dead nuffsays

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lol
thanks for the laugh
 

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I agree with OP.

And Minato is too overhyped. He's only known for his Space-Time jutsu. If you put him up against Nagato and use logic, you would know that Nagato would beat the shit out of him.


lol this thead went from don't campare nagato and itachi with anybody to an all out itachi vs nagato argument.

but yeah i think minato, madara, 3 hokage, hashirama and shikamaru are capable of raping nagato and itachi. and many others tooo

I lol'd @ this ^. The 4 Hokages can keep up with Itachi and Nagato but beat them? I think only the 1st is capable of that. Shikamaru had a tough time beating Hidan who hardly moves or uses any special abilities. Oh and he sprained his poor ankle during the Pain Arc :). Yes, he's smart but intelligence doesn't work if you can't keep up with your opponent in other areas. Shikamaru is FAR beyond Naruto's level and last I checked, both Itachi and Nagato were stronger than Naruto.
 

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Frankly,
I find it pointless to make and vs threads at all....
because at the end of the day, we do not know everything about a certain character and therefore would be unable to predict the outcome of the battle.
Only kishi knows what will happen or what would happen in each and every event.
also, i'd like to point out that it is not always the person with the bigger gun that wins a battle, the skill and experience of a person also allows the person to gain an advantage in combat.
as i recall, it is said that a shinobi with a stone is still better than a guy with a kunai.

Dude! You are sooo right. You can't predict the outcome of a Naruto battle. The same way you cant predict the outcome of a football match. Judging based on abilities only, Who would have thought that Shikamaru would take out Hidan? Or that Naruto would beat Neji? Or that First would Defeat Madara (PS Madara said he hasnt fully recovered from the beating. So @Shawd don't give me that pretending crap. Does it even sound logical to you? He was thoroughly beaten period!)? Or that Konan would nearly kill Madara?

Most times, Its only when they actually fight that you start seeing techs you didnt know they had. e.g. Jiraiya vs Pain, Itachi vs Sasuke, Deidara vs Sasuke. So dont judge based on what you watched. Its only Kishi that can authoritatively tell. Otherwise, you are just guessing
 

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I agree with OP.

And Minato is too overhyped. He's only known for his Space-Time jutsu. If you put him up against Nagato and use logic, you would know that Nagato would beat the shit out of him.




I lol'd @ this ^. The 4 Hokages can keep up with Itachi and Nagato but beat them? I think only the 1st is capable of that. Shikamaru had a tough time beating Hidan who hardly moves or uses any special abilities. Oh and he sprained his poor ankle during the Pain Arc :). Yes, he's smart but intelligence doesn't work if you can't keep up with your opponent in other areas. Shikamaru is FAR beyond Naruto's level and last I checked, both Itachi and Nagato were stronger than Naruto.

minato migh be overhyped but he can win against them and if u think about it is actually very possible i don't want to explain why right now but if u ask me i will.
 

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The fact he said that shikamaru can beat nagato and itachi is prrof that his entire post is invalid lol. i was at work when i saw this and i literally started ROFL. I am not even exaggerating lol. U are not worthy of having peins picture on ur posts
lol this thead went from don't campare nagato and itachi with anybody to an all out itachi vs nagato argument.

but yeah i think minato, madara, 3 hokage, hashirama and shikamaru are capable of raping nagato and itachi. and many others tooo
 

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Yeah, So is Sasuke and Madara. Itachi and Pein? I dont think so.
 

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Shikamaru? LOL

Minato, Madara, and Hashirama are capable of beating Nagato and Itachi but they both can still put up a good fight against any of them, at least IMO.

Who wins will just be opinions and assumptions.

explain to me how the hell shikamaru would rape nagato lol?:shrug: ... i think nagato is capable of beating the third and minato and itachie but im sure they could beat him to. itachie and nagato will be the two most greatest characters in naruto, not the best but the most liked.

I agree with OP.

And Minato is too overhyped. He's only known for his Space-Time jutsu. If you put him up against Nagato and use logic, you would know that Nagato would beat the shit out of him.




I lol'd @ this ^. The 4 Hokages can keep up with Itachi and Nagato but beat them? I think only the 1st is capable of that. Shikamaru had a tough time beating Hidan who hardly moves or uses any special abilities. Oh and he sprained his poor ankle during the Pain Arc :). Yes, he's smart but intelligence doesn't work if you can't keep up with your opponent in other areas. Shikamaru is FAR beyond Naruto's level and last I checked, both Itachi and Nagato were stronger than Naruto.

The fact he said that shikamaru can beat nagato and itachi is prrof that his entire post is invalid lol. i was at work when i saw this and i literally started ROFL. I am not even exaggerating lol. U are not worthy of having peins picture on ur posts

learn this anyone can defeat anybody in narutoverse this fact has been proven countless times throughout the manga, no one man is invincible every technique has flaws and weaknesses. with adequate intel on your opponent combined with a good strategy the best of the best can be taken down, itachi and nagato are no exceptions. :flaw::flaw::flaw:

this is not dbz where as if you have a lower power lvl than your oponent its an automatic fail.

nagato and itachi cant be compared with anybody??!?? wtf, oh please.
 

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I agree with OP.

And Minato is too overhyped. He's only known for his Space-Time jutsu. If you put him up against Nagato and use logic, you would know that Nagato would beat the shit out of him.

I don't usually disagree with your post but I would have to on this.

We have seen Minato only use S-T and Resengan, along with his intelligent but yet he was able to match both Raikage and Bee, won't say what really happen here as it wasn't explained clearly but as an assumption, we can say Raikage and Bee were outclassed or beaten. He even outsmarted Tobi (I do realize Tobi, was controlling the fox and all) but with one attack, he marked, wounded and took the fox out of Tobi's control which is quiet impressive.

Itachi just with regular Sharingan is able to take the likes of Oro and Deidara out within seconds.

As a little joke I read somewhere, which is also somewhat true

3rd Hoakge took 3-4 episode to beat Oro
Sasuke took 2-3 to beat Oro
Itachi took 30 seconds

Itachi with just his genjutsu was deadly alone (He could beat many shinobi's just with a regular genjutsu and even experienced ones), as Minato was with his S-T (He could S-T and stab people with Kunai's and end battles), it was said that elders from other villages told there shinobi to run when you see the Yellow Flash of Konoho and this was before he was Hokage.

The truth is Minato, Itachi and Nagato are three of the most popular character and most over hyped/under hyped at times.
 

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your the man for this, pat your self on the back :p haha. every body is so ignorant when it comes to there role models and idols and deserve to get slapped with some baby powder. any ways, i agree with you 1000% but where does it say that madara cant beat itachi?
 
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