Itachi and Nagato CANT be compared...

[laxus]

naruto world does not work that simply if u beat a character doesn't mean that someone else is gonna lose to u. Do u think bee would lose to guy since he beat kisame, no its not always that simple, minato has the capability to beat both of them he is way too fast he pretty much almost killed bee and while A was trying to kill him. The guy is way too fast and one marking or kunai near his opponent is almost instant death and itachi and nagato can lose to that.

bee was going to kill him also
there's a weakness to space time it desn't mean that you have speed that you'll win the battle against s rank shinobi that are insanly strong.

 

[arv993]

so are you saying itachi going to run away when he's in susanno just kiling himself.
itachi chakra level's are low so him running away in susanno is just a waste of time.

did i say running away why are u assuming that he can use sword of totsuka to try to seal him or use genjutsu like tsukiyomi but nagato can also take it depending on how he fights(he has to avoid genjutsu and the sword) and uses CT at the right time yea he too can win but IMO i think itachi chances are better since he is more tactical and uses his powers well.

 

[Tendo Pain]

well the part i found difficult to understand was the 3rd raikage.

I dont recall at all kabuto said they TWO were his most powerful summons. I recall him saying in general his absuki summons are strong to madara.


The third riakage is godlevel compared to nagato and itachi, he way too riduclous at this point. You think itachi and nagato can take what he did.


Nagato coouldnt take on the fox at 50% and itachi isnt really the sort of fight to take 10 ppl at once. Hes more geared for 1v1.


SO far only hasihrama can compete with the third raikage.

Name any other shinobi that coult take on TAILED BEAST toe to toe. AND just get a scar to show for it.

Also nagato simply has too power for itachi to deal with in 1v1 situation. I think the last battle they had was case in point.

I don't know how to tell you this because I already told you and you didn't get it. The 3rd beat the 1st, 2nd and Oro. AT THE SAME TIME. The 3rd won. They all fought and he won. He's not just better, he's better than both of them combined + Oro!

You don't have to think anything, they fought and the 3rd beat the 1st and 2nd at the same time!

@psukkar Dude all of your statements are false. Youve made up facts to suet your opinion.
"The third riakage is godlevel compared to nagato and itachi, he way too riduclous at this point. You think itachi and nagato can take what he did."
- Dude are you serious? We have seen only 1 fight form the 3rd and your saying hes better than 2 of the top 5 characters?

"Nagato coouldnt take on the fox at 50% and itachi isnt really the sort of fight to take 10 ppl at once. Hes more geared for 1v1."
- Dude where does it say that the fox was at 50 percent? Im pretty sure you pulled that fact out of no where. He had just destroyed the The whole Hidden Leaf Village and everyone in it. Then he went on to fight the main character Naruto who had just got back from completing his new Sage Mode. After defeating Naruto he then had to face the 9 tails and beat it up until 8 tails. So you can't say he couldn't beat the 9 tails. Also it is stated in the manga that each tailed beast gradually gets better from 1 to 9 meaning the 9 tails is better than the 8 tails which the 3rd fought. Then theres that you said Itachi can't take on numbers once again WHERE DOES IT STATE THAT. You need to stop making up facts. Im sure that with his jutsus he can easily take on multiple enemies.

So all in all you asked which ninjas could also take on a tailed beast.
Minato, Nagato, Madera, Hashirama, Tobirama maybe, 3rd Hokage, and almost all of the Akasuki. Next time look for some actual facts.

@Ghostofthewind Lol dude your hilarious if you actually think that Oro controlling the 1st and 2nd Hokages meant they were anywhere near their full power. Oros version of Edo Tensei was flawed and not near completion. So using that battle is one of the worst arguements ever. Yes the 3rd was powerful but no he was not more powerful than the 1st and 2nd. If you disagree comment with some actual facts next time.

 

[Itachi2304]

I was aiding u dude.... when i was flaming i was flaming the guys who were against u lol. I was aiding u . I know u didnt say that

why are u talking about irrelevant things, i did not say sword of totsuka can be absorbed because and u start going off about it. For one nagato did not absorb it so it might not be absorbed and tthe fact that it is a tool that has fuinjutsu powers meaning not genjutsu is also indicating it cannot be absorbed. don't talk about things i did not even state pls.

 

[arv993]

bee was going to kill him also
there's a weakness to space time it desn't mean that you have speed that you'll win the battle against s rank shinobi that are insanly strong.

we don't how the fight ended but its obvious that 4th was not going for the kil however 4th could easily beat bee anytime after he made a marking he can teleport back to him and kill him. And he does not have speed r u joking with me dude the guy was called the fastest ninja in the world by A and is also a kage lvl shinobi.

 

[arv993]

I was aiding u dude.... when i was flaming i was flaming the guys who were against u lol. I was aiding u . I know u didnt say that

srry about it but then why did u quote me and say that but whatever i just made a misunderstanding

 

[laxus]

did i say running away why are u assuming that he can use sword of totsuka to try to seal him or use genjutsu like tsukiyomi but nagato can also take it depending on how he fights(he has to avoid genjutsu and the sword) and uses CT at the right time yea he too can win but IMO i think itachi chances are better since he is more tactical and uses his powers well.

that is chakra totsuka sword it can be absorbed
nagato has shown no signs of being weak to genjutsu instead he got' right back up and bring's other's like the asura etc
the nagato can most likly break it , it wouldn't be hard do you want to know why because he has great mastery of his chakra= his distributon to those bodies/six path of pain are not supposed to be possible but since he has so much chakra and mastery he can use that distribution blade into six bodies.

now if you say it takes 1,2 seconds for tysukyomi it wouldn't matter because his chakra control is that great so he wouldn't have a promblem disrupting his chakra.
anyway do you relize that nagato should have been traumitized by that sound genjutus but surprisingly he blows jiarayia arm off

 

[laxus]

we don't how the fight ended but its obvious that 4th was not going for the kil however 4th could easily beat bee anytime after he made a marking he can teleport back to him and kill him. And he does not have speed r u joking with me dude the guy was called the fastest ninja in the world by A and is also a kage lvl shinobi.

the main weakness of that jutsu is that they ahve to be there to atttack but this gives other ninja time to get their tech out to attack the person, you need speed ot hit space time user= was torune fast,also was bee so fast that he was able to tall where minato was to get his knife ready.

 

[arv993]

that is chakra totsuka sword it can be absorbed
nagato has shown no signs of being weak to genjutsu instead he got' right back up and bring's other's like the asura etc
the nagato can most likly break it , it wouldn't be hard do you want to know why because he has great mastery of his chakra= his distributon to those bodies/six path of pain are not supposed to be possible but since he has so much chakra and mastery he can use that distribution blade into six bodies.

now if you say it takes 1,2 seconds for tysukyomi it wouldn't matter because his chakra control is that great so he wouldn't have a promblem disrupting his chakra.
anyway do you relize that nagato should have been traumitized by that sound genjutus but surprisingly he blows jiarayia arm off

then why did he not absorb it last time in the fight and the sword of totsuka is a tool which uses fuinjutsu not ninjutsu and the fact that he did not do it last time indicates that he can't absorb it. And nagato can break out of genjutsu easily who said that and its been said itachi's genjutsu is instant and it cannot be broken by just disturbing one's chakra like regular genjutsu said by kakashi look

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And his paths are his own not a different source of chakra btw just to let u kno.

 

[arv993]

the main weakness of that jutsu is that they ahve to be there to atttack but this gives other ninja time to get their tech out to attack the person, you need speed ot hit space time user= was torune fast,also was bee so fast that he was able to tall where minato was to get his knife ready.

madara is not noted for his speed his s/t is good for intangibility and his able to teleport from place to place not as instant as minato's and why r u denying this he was the fastest ninja in the world he can throw a kunai and just teleport there or mark a person and instantly appear there. bee has good reflexes and is fast as evidenced by when he stopped A but itachi and nagato have not been shown to be that fast. AND why r u saying he is not that fast when even when he showed his speed and raikage also said it.

 

[Itachi2304]

No problem bro . i liked what u said so i wanted to commend u. But i started typing away lol and lost control of myself XD.

srry about it but then why did u quote me and say that but whatever i just made a misunderstanding

 

[Itachi2304]

lol dude ur hilarious. U realize the one who blew jiryas arm off wasnt one of the three bodies that got owned by one genjitsu right lol? and the time it took jiraya to go flying into the lake was the time it took for them to ressurect. Regardless jiraya stated that the only jutsu that effects pein or nagato is genjitsu. Lol. Itachi didnt even use genjitsu against nagato and still beat him. And let me ask u this. Nagato had a barrier around him that was absorbing any ninjutsu that was hitting him right? we all saw naruto hit rasengan and it didnt work although nagato didnt put any hands up. Nagato had a barrier around him sucking ninjutsu. But evidently itachis totsuka went through. Regardless itachis perfect strategies and his use of attacks at the perfect time are enough to take down nagato. And the fact itachi finds ur weakness in mere milliseconds and exposes it with a strategy in another mere millisecond

that is chakra totsuka sword it can be absorbed
nagato has shown no signs of being weak to genjutsu instead he got' right back up and bring's other's like the asura etc
the nagato can most likly break it , it wouldn't be hard do you want to know why because he has great mastery of his chakra= his distributon to those bodies/six path of pain are not supposed to be possible but since he has so much chakra and mastery he can use that distribution blade into six bodies.

now if you say it takes 1,2 seconds for tysukyomi it wouldn't matter because his chakra control is that great so he wouldn't have a promblem disrupting his chakra.
anyway do you relize that nagato should have been traumitized by that sound genjutus but surprisingly he blows jiarayia arm off

 

[Itachi2304]

noooooo! i dont want to disagree with u!!!! but i have to itachi hasnt been shown to be that fast dude itachi is a 5/5 in speed in the databooks and was dodging naruto and bees attacks at point blank range and he was also jumping right between them and jumping back next to nagato in the blink of an eye XD. Itachi or nagato had to shout out where itachi is so they would know XD. Regardless it doesnt matter the databooks say that itachis normal movements are so fast that they seem to be teleportation. remember that there is no such thing as "teleportation". Teleportation means that ur movement is so insanely fast that u seem to have just appeared from one place to another. Without moving any limbs. But in reality u did move. Just like instant transmission in DBZ. Goku actually moves when he does it but at lightspeed XD. Itachi is insanely fast. He was on par with naruto and even faster in the fight. And he definitely outclassed bee in speed during that fightlol

madara is not noted for his speed his s/t is good for intangibility and his able to teleport from place to place not as instant as minato's and why r u denying this he was the fastest ninja in the world he can throw a kunai and just teleport there or mark a person and instantly appear there. bee has good reflexes and is fast as evidenced by when he stopped A but itachi and nagato have not been shown to be that fast. AND why r u saying he is not that fast when even when he showed his speed and raikage also said it.

 

[laxus]

then why did he not absorb it last time in the fight and the sword of totsuka is a tool which uses fuinjutsu not ninjutsu and the fact that he did not do it last time indicates that he can't absorb it. And nagato can break out of genjutsu easily who said that and its been said itachi's genjutsu is instant and it cannot be broken by just disturbing one's chakra like regular genjutsu said by kakashi look

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And his paths are his own not a different source of chakra btw just to let u kno.

do you expect kakashi even at time with no great control of his chakra o break genjutsu, one of the major rules is to disrupt.
i never said his path could break him out but said he has mastery with his chakra
wow will nagato try to absorb it when he free from kabuto control= the answer is if he did he wouldn't be unreleased and kabuto can tighten his control over nagato again but genjutsu is different story since it manipulated his edo tensai summon allowing itachi to do a mission from shishu.

again it wouldn't matter if itachi genjutsu is an instant because nagato has great mastery of his chakra.well are you going to say when you're a perfect jinchurriki and you rely on a tailed beast to disrupt chakra that it wouldn't work on tsykuyomi since kakashi doesn't have great mastery of his chakra.

the other rule is it doesn't matter how good the genjutsu is if your able to have mastery of you're own chakra or a partner sync in you like a tailed beast that are have great chakra it will disrupt that genjutsu but they will be in it but they will break out and wouldn't be affected much.

 

[laxus]

lol dude ur hilarious. U realize the one who blew jiryas arm off wasnt one of the three bodies that got owned by one genjitsu right lol? and the time it took jiraya to go flying into the lake was the time it took for them to ressurect. Regardless jiraya stated that the only jutsu that effects pein or nagato is genjitsu. Lol. Itachi didnt even use genjitsu against nagato and still beat him. And let me ask u this. Nagato had a barrier around him that was absorbing any ninjutsu that was hitting him right? we all saw naruto hit rasengan and it didnt work although nagato didnt put any hands up. Nagato had a barrier around him sucking ninjutsu. But evidently itachis totsuka went through. Regardless itachis perfect strategies and his use of attacks at the perfect time are enough to take down nagato. And the fact itachi finds ur weakness in mere milliseconds and exposes it with a strategy in another mere millisecond

you didn't get the point nagato still was able to control a path being in a genjutsu like that and he showed no signs of the effects.
wow nagato wants to absorb a sword why would he do that so that kabuto can force his control on him.
if you mention shishu genjutsu it's different since it manipultede his edo tensai and set a message to the edo tensa/itachi to protect so kabuto whole control of itachi was disrupted.

 

[Itachi2304]

he wasnt able to though dude. It wasnt until all three bodies were killed. He was able to use the other paths once all three of the other bodies were killed bro. I am sorry man if i sound troublesome but its true. Of course nagato himself wont die if u kill his path lol. i mean it is pretty obvious that he can still control other paths even if one dies. So i dont see ur point? nagato didnt show any signs of stress or anything sure but its also that way when u kill them normally regardless of it being a genjitsu or not bro.

you didn't get the point nagato still was able to control a path being in a genjutsu like that and he showed no signs of the effects.

 

[laxus]

madara is not noted for his speed his s/t is good for intangibility and his able to teleport from place to place not as instant as minato's and why r u denying this he was the fastest ninja in the world he can throw a kunai and just teleport there or mark a person and instantly appear there. bee has good reflexes and is fast as evidenced by when he stopped A but itachi and nagato have not been shown to be that fast. AND why r u saying he is not that fast when even when he showed his speed and raikage also said it.

i never said he not fast but instead space time ninjutsu has a weakness
bee was fast at tht age by just standing there waiting for minato really?

 

[arv993]

do you expect kakashi even at time with no great control of his chakra o break genjutsu, one of the major rules is to disrupt.
i never said his path could break him out but said he has mastery with his chakra
wow will nagato try to absorb it when he free from kabuto control= the answer is if he did he wouldn't be unreleased and kabuto can tighten his control over nagato again but genjutsu is different story since it manipulated his edo tensai summon allowing itachi to do a mission from shishu.

again it wouldn't matter if itachi genjutsu is an instant because nagato has great mastery of his chakra.well are you going to say when you're a perfect jinchurriki and you rely on a tailed beast to disrupt chakra that it wouldn't work on tsykuyomi since kakashi doesn't have great mastery of his chakra.

the other rule is it doesn't matter how good the genjutsu is if your able to have mastery of you're own chakra or a partner sync in you like a tailed beast that are have great chakra it will disrupt that genjutsu but they will be in it but they will break out and wouldn't be affected much.

what kakshi does not have great control of his chakra what are u talking about man he does he has low chakra and uses his chakra very effectively. and who said nagato was free from edo tensei that is just an assumption and kabuto never said that u r just speculating on that and itachi said that r u back to ur senses after he stabbed him and don't u think kabuto would have noticed if he resisted or broke it like how he did with itachi. And tsukiyomi can't be broken by regular means and if you have great chakra control u don't break(need to be of the same blood like sasuke).

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did kabuto said he resisted no right so pls don't speculate

 

[laxus]

he wasnt able to though dude. It wasnt until all three bodies were killed. He was able to use the other paths once all three of the other bodies were killed bro. I am sorry man if i sound troublesome but its true. Of course nagato himself wont die if u kill his path lol. i mean it is pretty obvious that he can still control other paths even if one dies. So i dont see ur point? nagato didnt show any signs of stress or anything sure but its also that way when u kill them normally regardless of it being a genjitsu or not bro.

but he was in genjutsu but was able to move a path and also surprised jaraiya from behind= meaning he had councoiuness in his mind right after the genjutsu ended

 

[arv993]

i never said he not fast but instead space time ninjutsu has a weakness
bee was fast at tht age by just standing there waiting for minato really?

yes it might have a weakness and bee would almost certainly lose to minato btw just to let u kno and bee is fast did u not see him fighting against A and has great reflexes

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