I actually read everything you said and I agree completely. Itachi made his bed, and now he's gonna have to lay in it. There's never going to be any fix to what he did to his brother's life so all he can do is try to make it an ounce better. ++ing your rep. ^-^
appreciate it
he had some rough methods but still planned to even rectify it with the ultimate genjutsu koto amkatsesui(wrong spelling), so he tried his best but did kno that kabuto would summon him. It is not hard for someone to just kill their younger bro and itachi seemed like he had a really good bond with him but even a ninja like him could not seperate his feelings, he is human after all sometimes emotions get the best of you and i think that is the case of itachi. and i do agree that he was a little harsh later on when he met him but he can't act differently than he did on the night of the massacre, so i guess he just played along but was a little too harsh.
Well let me remind you itachi murdered the entire clan, which includes not only his parents but alot of chidren who were innocent and had nothing to do with the plot against konoha.Why should sasuke's life be more worth than the other kids who died that day?And i know itachi had to hold on to his facade but he as a smart man must have known what the "harsh" method was doing to sasuke.
Tough decision,and lots of things riding on his shoulders, but in the end he showed poor judgement.
Itachi was a great a ninja who sacrificed his life for the sake of the village and also couldn't bring himself to kill his younger brother
i don't know what kind of naruto fan are u
if u can't understand that ITACHI WAS A HERO!!!!!!!!
I'm the kinda fan who is not blinded by favoritism to a certain character.Basically, itachi sacrificed his life for pretty much nothing(sasuke turning/new war).Depite his brilliance he failed his only two life goals.
I agree that Itachi failed as a shinobi, but not as a brother. A family member does the best they can do, and whether it works out or not, it's the thought that counts. However, Itachi failed miserably as a shinobi. His mission was to assassinate his clan in order to protect the Leaf. If leaving Sasuke alive wasn't enough, making him a hateful bastard was.
When Naruto last saw Itachi alive, Itachi mentioned that Sasuke was a "blank slate" and could be "coloured in many ways." This was not the case, though. By the time Sasuke left the village, all he cared about was revenge. He would not have returned to the Leaf even if he hadn't learned the truth.
He was a fool to think Sasuke could be consumed by hatred for so many years and then just go home like nothing happened. Itachi died an idiot.
Good post, and you have a point when you say that family can do no wrong.However, i will say that only goes to a certain limit.
Spoiler alert
He had Sasuke in mind he needed someone to exact revenge on him for his clan. Yes his clan was up to no good, but that doesn't the whole clan should be dishonored in Itachi's view. By doing what he did to Sasuke he was trying to ensure that his clan would be honored by an act of vengence. That's why he left Sasuke alive not out of sense of brotherly affection, but a need to restore clan honor, or He would have used Shisui's eye when they fought and committed suicide afterwards. My point is he needed a tool not a brother or he would not have pleaded with the Hokage to spare Sasuke and threatened the third's advisor's with the release of village secrets to keep him alive after the massacre.
Intresting take and i can see your point.Although, i think he on some perverted level cared for sasuke and wanted the best for him(delusional).But yes he must have also seen him as a tool, since i think the restoring of uchiha's pride was meant for him first,so he could clear the blood of his hands and kinda making himself believe that he took the right decision.
when a person stand on two boats
he has to fall
same with Itachi
nicely put
Itachi, Itachi, Itachi....
We all agree he was a great shinobi. Correct? His accomplishments were by far very strategic in nature and best decision he could have made regarding the moments circumstance. His skills as a shinobi are unmatched, although there are exceptions.
However, regarding his failures. Itachi went about the whole thing in a wrong way. He could have used the talk no jutsu to find a common ground between the two, Uchiha & Konoha. I mean that is what Hashirama would do. We cannot blame Itachi for Sasuke's interpretation of the plan organized by the Elders. Itachi was actually very clever on some points but to some extent, like someone mentioned earlier, how can you NOT expect for a human being, especially one as young as Sasuke, to grow up with issues like abandonment & family homicide. It's ridiculous.
they are scared that if they open their mind just a little, they might suddenly like their favourite character less.
Yeah, the talk no justu would have been the best option(for both parties).Itachi was smart enough to figure out a solution to the problem.Naruto has avoided much bigger problems by simple talking to the troublemakers.
And if it came to a decision he should have fully commited to one of the sides.Hard choice but obvioulsy necessary.
No doubt about itachi being clever and he could pretty much see into the future but as you say how the hell couldn't he see what he was doing to sasuke?A killing spree right in front of him and the killer being his beloved brother who he looked up to(who btw asked him to kill him when he grew up).And later by pushing him away from his peers and into orochimaru's arms.
Alright coming in a bit late to the argument here but I have a few key points I want to jump in on.
First: He is no where near a failure.
Reason: Itachi was given a mission that could only be whole heartedly be completed by someone with a sociopaths mindset. Kill your entire family, kill all your friends, neighbors and anyone else of the same decent. Thats like you being told your bloodline is going to take up arms at the next family reunion and the country you trust/love telling you to kill everyone at your next family reunion! GOOD LUCK! The fact that he managed to only let one person survive is a feat all its own. He did what he was told to a 99% effective measure, he could of skipped past sasuke, he could of killed the elders, he could of changed it but years of being a prodigy and being brainwashed does bad things to you. It's one thing as posted earlier to watch your clan be killed at the age of 8, its another to have to kill so many at Itachi's age.
Second: To the minor debate of what if the Uchiha clan took over the village.
Answer: Well say hi to Madara's dreams and wishes and goodbye to the world.
Itachi's and Sasuke's personallities are totally different. Itachi is intelligent, he's calm. Each action is thought out ahead. He tries to not use malice in his intent. Sasuke is sadistic, grandiose, and narcissistic. Itachi's friend knew he was going to die and colaberated with him. Sasuke is willing to sacrifice his friends with no pause to the effect. Who's really the failure in this family?
Itachi did what he had to do and did it well under the circumstances at hand. Siyo, you stated that your portraying what Kishi himself laid out on the table, why is it your vision of Itachi is so terrible but the majority of everyone else's vision isn't?
Oh btw Siyo, not wanting to instigate an argument between us, +rep for having the balls to post something that is going to be attacked with ignorance and fight me and sticking through it without turning into a giant battlesphere of death, you are a stronger man then I.
the majority of everyone else's vision? You mean the people who you say attacked me with ignorance? If look at all the mature responses in here you would notice that the majority agree with my so called vision(or at least to some extent).I posted my opinion, which i backed up with facts from the manga, so even if nobody agreed i still had every right to post(whether you agree or not is up to you guys)
The majority of people who wrote in this thread are blind followers who either didn't read my thread or post their love for itachi without being able to take constructive criticism.To neglect itachi's actions regarding his brother is crazy...
itachi should know sasuke's personality since they were so close, and i don't call that a excuse for what he did. Sasuke is a genious too. The only difference between the two is the troubling past of sasuke and the odds of itachi going through the same if the roles were reversed is huge.
Itachi was still a heartless killer even though he spared sasuke,and i'm sure his parents and all the little kids who died that night would agree with me.Itachi put himself in a bad position, by actually not making a viable decison for neither him or konoha.You could argue that he not only ruined sasuke's life but his own too, because he was banned from konoha.Tradegy all around.....
btw, just a response to your post not an attack....(respect your opinion and appreciate the compliment)
