[Discussion] Is there time for Luffy to get stronger?

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I wouldn't assume eating 2 devil fruits is impossible as it's been shown that Blackbeard was able to and seeing as we don't know the reasons yet I'd say anything could happen.
I forgot to mention BB was an exception. normally you can't eat 2 fruits, however, everyone seemed to be surprised when BB did it. as I recall, Marco said BB had a kind of a "weird" body, though it's still unclear how he did it.
 

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I forgot to mention BB was an exception. normally you can't eat 2 fruits, however, everyone seemed to be surprised when BB did it. as I recall, Marco said BB had a kind of a "weird" body, though it's still unclear how he did it.

The point is we don't know what makes Blackbeards body weird and a common theory is it has something to do with the D in people's names, but I'm not gonna speculate since I have no idea what's different with his body, however a question to ask would be has anyone had the guts to eat 2 devil fruits other than Blackbeard?
 

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Since Goda once said that he only wanted him to be a rubberman, I can't help but think that there are so many more ways for him to play around. For example:
-Gear fourth = He heats himself up and melts his rubber body and with Haki control he can manipulate his body ETC
-Gear fifth = giant Mugi (gear 3 whole body)





EDIT: And in response to how you mention he may not have time to do this. You're forgetting CoSK. And this can only become stronger when ones willpower/mentality grows stronger. And the more Mugi fights, the stronger his mind will get, thus the stronger his CoSK will be. And remember, Akagami could damaga ships with CoSK and we don't know if Dragon caused the fire to disperse with DF power or CoSK.
 
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Since Goda once said that he only wanted him to be a rubberman, I can't help but think that there are so many more ways for him to play around. For example:
-Gear fourth = He heats himself up and melts his rubber body and with Haki control he can manipulate his body ETC
-Gear fifth = giant Mugi (gear 3 whole body)





EDIT: And in response to how you mention he may not have time to do this. You're forgetting CoSK. And this can only become stronger when ones willpower/mentality grows stronger. And the more Mugi fights, the stronger his mind will get, thus the stronger his CoSK will be. And remember, Akagami could damaga ships with CoSK and we don't know if Dragon caused the fire to disperse with DF power or CoSK.
Hey, that first one's my idea! :O Awesome, someone actually liked it :D You might have thought of it on yourself as well though :D
 

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Since Goda once said that he only wanted him to be a rubberman, I can't help but think that there are so many more ways for him to play around. For example:
-Gear fourth = He heats himself up and melts his rubber body and with Haki control he can manipulate his body ETC
-Gear fifth = giant Mugi (gear 3 whole body)





EDIT: And in response to how you mention he may not have time to do this. You're forgetting CoSK. And this can only become stronger when ones willpower/mentality grows stronger. And the more Mugi fights, the stronger his mind will get, thus the stronger his CoSK will be. And remember, Akagami could damaga ships with CoSK and we don't know if Dragon caused the fire to disperse with DF power or CoSK.
Oda stated that when Luffy defeated 50,000 fishmen with his haki, Shanks could have defeated all 100,000 of them plus Hordy's crew with his haki and well it took Luffy 2 years worth of training to get where he is now also I'm not really interested in the growth of characters like Shanks or Dragon since they've had a lot longer to get powerful.
 

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That is a good point maybe during after tournament Luffy will gain Ace Devil Fruit
Yeah personally I wouldn't mind Luffy gaining Ace's devil fruit as long as Oda explains it properly however I'm guessing there'd be a load of angry people crying over the fact Luffy should just have rubber powers when fighting people with Magma, light and god knows what OP Devil fruits some people have.

Personally I think Luffy either needs a massive increase in his Haki ability or another DF to put him onto the levels of the Yonko and Admirals.
 

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I guess I have a couple more points to add,
We know right now Luffy probably can't take down a yonko solo. Either that or he teemed up with Law purely for the strategically advantages. (Taking Doflamingo out of the picture for example)
Thus we can see that there is room for improvement.
however when has OP been a straight forward and simple plot? Never. We won’t be spending the next 4 arcs going from one yonko to the next. I would bet good money that we will get a chance to see not only the better portion of the new world (and fully enjoy it) but also more progression in Luffy strength wise (that goes for the whole crew)

So to answer your question fully in my opinion Luffy will probably get stronger in Haki but not in any instant power boost like the time skip. But progressing in the same manor he has previously in the series (though the rate he learns may differ). Maybe he even dose some personal training sessions...

If he were to eat the mera-mera, I would have some clashing emotions. Like I said I don’t want a instant power boost so that would upset me a little, what’s the point of him going off and training for two years just so he can eat a fruit and be a logia. :dunno: Also it was stated in numerous threads that even logias have to go through a lot of training to be any good in a fight and basically everything Luffy has learned would be a semi-waist.
On the other hand if him eating the fruit had a darn good explanation maybe a little more of BB would be explained too? But that is probably the only pro I can think of in this scenario.

Again this is my opinion so feel free to differ from it I won’t be offended, I just ask you keep the thoughts in mind.
 

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Oda stated that when Luffy defeated 50,000 fishmen with his haki, Shanks could have defeated all 100,000 of them plus Hordy's crew with his haki and well it took Luffy 2 years worth of training to get where he is now also I'm not really interested in the growth of characters like Shanks or Dragon since they've had a lot longer to get powerful.
Yes, but that is actually irrelevant. Someone who has CotSK can't train it specifically, because it grows with your spirit/mental strentgh. And it's obvious that the more Mugi will fight in the NW more he will grow (mentally/spirit). Hence why he doesn't need another DF, he just need more experience.
 

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I guess I have a couple more points to add,
We know right now Luffy probably can't take down a yonko solo. Either that or he teemed up with Law purely for the strategically advantages. (Taking Doflamingo out of the picture for example)
Thus we can see that there is room for improvement.
however when has OP been a straight forward and simple plot? Never. We won’t be spending the next 4 arcs going from one yonko to the next. I would bet good money that we will get a chance to see not only the better portion of the new world (and fully enjoy it) but also more progression in Luffy strength wise (that goes for the whole crew)

So to answer your question fully in my opinion Luffy will probably get stronger in Haki but not in any instant power boost like the time skip. But progressing in the same manor he has previously in the series (though the rate he learns may differ). Maybe he even dose some personal training sessions...

If he were to eat the mera-mera, I would have some clashing emotions. Like I said I don’t want a instant power boost so that would upset me a little, what’s the point of him going off and training for two years just so he can eat a fruit and be a logia. :dunno: Also it was stated in numerous threads that even logias have to go through a lot of training to be any good in a fight and basically everything Luffy has learned would be a semi-waist.
On the other hand if him eating the fruit had a darn good explanation maybe a little more of BB would be explained too? But that is probably the only pro I can think of in this scenario.

Again this is my opinion so feel free to differ from it I won’t be offended, I just ask you keep the thoughts in mind.
I agree. I mean, I don't think anyone expected Luffy to develop Gear 2nd and 3rd during the Enies Lobby arc. Sure, people probably expected a powerup, but that was his first powerup, then came his release of CoC, which at the time really wasn't something that benefited him, it just happened at some opportune moments.

As for Luffy eating Ace's DF, I don't mind at all. All it does is make him immune to punches without Haki, and adds some extra power to his punches. As it seems right now, he has developed it to its full potential. That probably isn't the case though. But I think Oda dealt with the problem of Luffy eating Ace's DF when Luffy said that he knew that you can't have two DFs at the same time. In other words, it doesn't seem that he will accidentally eat it.
 

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I agree. I mean, I don't think anyone expected Luffy to develop Gear 2nd and 3rd during the Enies Lobby arc. Sure, people probably expected a powerup, but that was his first powerup, then came his release of CoC, which at the time really wasn't something that benefited him, it just happened at some opportune moments.

As for Luffy eating Ace's DF, I don't mind at all. All it does is make him immune to punches without Haki, and adds some extra power to his punches. As it seems right now, he has developed it to its full potential. That probably isn't the case though. But I think Oda dealt with the problem of Luffy eating Ace's DF when Luffy said that he knew that you can't have two DFs at the same time. In other words, it doesn't seem that he will accidentally eat it.
I was gunna say that too but no matter what we say some one will just say "maybe he eats it on accident and survives." and I didn't want to get into an argument with someone about pure speculation that runs against things that were proven wont happen. *sigh
 

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I was gunna say that too but no matter what we say some one will just say "maybe he eats it on accident and survives." and I didn't want to get into an argument with someone about pure speculation that runs against things that were proven wont happen. *sigh
Yeah, it actually put a damper on things for me. It just left an option off the table. I still don't mind though, because Luffy will still develop, and Oda is just crazy, he can make up some really weird stuff. I actually wanted Luffy to eat Ace's DF, cause I didn't see him becoming a Logia. I thought he would become something like Magellan, only with fire :)

Edit: Maybe Marco is a better way to put it :)
 
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