[Discussion] Is there time for Luffy to get stronger?

[TheHokage]

1) Haki- he can improve Haki alot, make it like Vergo(full body), then maybe use "full body red hawk" or something(so he's all in flames)
2) Gear 4th where can use both 3rd and 2nd together.

I think if he gets any of those he would be much stronger.

Well as I said they are possibilities but it took Luffy two years to get where he is now with his Haki is there enough time for Oda to fit that progression in and even if he did a full body red hawk wouldn't be able to keep it stabilized and would only be able to keep that form for a few seconds due to getting burned.

Also I can't be certain but is that what 4th gear is? combining both 2nd and 3rd...

 

[doubledude]

Well as I said they are possibilities but it took Luffy two years to get where he is now with his Haki is there enough time for Oda to fit that progression in and even if he did a full body red hawk wouldn't be able to keep it stabilized and would only be able to keep that form for a few seconds due to getting burned.

Also I can't be certain but is that what 4th gear is? combining both 2nd and 3rd...

Y, i just made up the name for gear 2nd + gear 3rd.

Also, if Luffy uses his Haki like Vergo where his body is like iron then I'm pretty sure he wont get burned. Rewatch the anime part where he used Red Hawk ( he first used Haki on his arm to make it "iron-ish" so he wouldn't get burned)

 

[TheHokage]

Y, i just made up the name for gear 2nd + gear 3rd.

Also, if Luffy uses his Haki like Vergo where his body is like iron then I'm pretty sure he wont get burned. Rewatch the anime part where he used Red Hawk ( he first used Haki on his arm to make it "iron-ish" so he wouldn't get burned)

I know what happened...however he released the punch in a matter of seconds and the fire went out it's unknown whether or not he'd be able to keep that type of form for a long period of time.

 

[doubledude]

I know what happened...however he released the punch in a matter of seconds and the fire went out it's unknown whether or not he'd be able to keep that type of form for a long period of time.

Well I just stated one of the many things he might learn to get stronger. He will get stronger for sure, we just don't know when and how .

 

[Narutohokage7]

NEVER FORGET THIS KIDS ...A hero isnt a hero because he is the strongest... a hero is a hero because he has the heart to overcome his obstacles despite the odds looking stacked against him.

This describes Luffy perfectly.

 

[nasuke242]

gear 4th...maybe

 

[Le0]

based on Luffy's nature, he'll probably eat it without thinking > or he did think and decide to give it a shot once someone mentioned something about Teach consuming two devil fruit > or he will just consume it without knowing Teach's story and decide to let fate decide. it'll be a total contradiction to his nature if he doesn't eat the fruit.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

So I'm sure we can all agree that Luffy is not on the level of the Yonko's or Admirals however he'll have to be eventually so I'm wondering how do you think Luffy could get strong enough to fight them 1 on 1.

I mean this question has always had mixed response like some people would argue he needs to get stronger Haki however is there time for that?

It took Luffy 2 years to get to the point he's at now with his Haki and I don't see Oda doing another time skip so what could get him onto the level he needs to be at so he could fight the best of the best?

This is why I've always been 50/50 when it comes to Luffy eating the Mera Mera fruit I mean I wouldn't be angry if he gained the powers from it since I'd understand since Luffy can't take his rubber powers that much higher now but it would seem a little bit of a free power up.

Anyway what do you think, how can Luffy possibly get strong enough to fight with Yonko's, warlords and Admirals one on one with the time remaining in One Piece remember it's over half way through the series now.

lots of time left.
even though the manga is a little more than half done, the manga started in 97. Sooo, if it started then, and 2013 is just a half-life, the manga should end around 2029 with 1350 -> 1400 chapters. we got time bro

 

[Laserz]

Non-Fodder oppoents=stronger haki+stats for luffy=PK

 

[Love Cook]

But that's sort of my point there's not much more he can do with his rubber powers, what type of power up would he need to be able to fight the best of the best.

Let me ask you.

Before Luffy got his gears, did you expect him to use gears ?

Before Haki was introduced, did you expect him to use haki ?

Of course you didn't. Face it, you can't predict it and speculation is pointless.

Just wait every week to see how Oda powers up his characters.

 

[TheHokage]

Let me ask you.

Before Luffy got his gears, did you expect him to use gears ?

Before Haki was introduced, did you expect him to use haki ?

Of course you didn't. Face it, you can't predict it and speculation is pointless.

Just wait every week to see how Oda powers up his characters.

Well to be fair I had a feeling there was going to be some sort of power up with his rubber abilities granted I never even thought of the possibility of gear 2nd but I had an idea Luffy would manage to expand his body eventually.

Again with Haki it's been around since the very beginning pretty much it was foreshadowed by Shanks and then in Skypia I'm only asking is there enough time (One piece world time) for Luffy to get at a level where he can defeat Yonko's and Admirals one on one.

Also I'm not predicting it's a discussion if I was going to predict I'd be making assumptions on what Luffy's new abilities are however I've only narrowed it down to the possibilities.

-Upgrade in his rubber abilities.
-Stronger Haki.
-Mera Mera Fruit.

Out of these three which do you think will push him onto the level he needs to be at taking into account the amount of time it would take for him to train in each of them and considering the fact I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy where to face a Yonko in the next arc.

Personally I don't mind any of the three possibilities as long as there introduced in a great way.

 

[Skylar Knight]

I personally think there's going to be a new arc on the same level as Enies Lobby. Basically, the strength of the Strawhat crew is once again going to turn into a whole different level during an arc.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

I personally think there's going to be a new arc on the same level as Enies Lobby. Basically, the strength of the Strawhat crew is once again going to turn into a whole different level during an arc.

Ennis Lobby...PART 2!!!!! I wouldn't be surprised! My guess would be that this arc would happen sometime before the Revolutionaries are involved or as a prelude to it...

OR EVEN better...this could be the prelude to the concept of Zoro and Sanji being in Impel Down together

gear 4th...maybe

Gear 4: Using Gear 3 with the speed of Gear 2.....mother of god!

 

[Simple Math]

yea Luffy has plenty of time to get stronger, though I doubt there will be another timeskip

all I can imagine now is Luffy getting stronger arc after arc, and maybe discover new powers.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Well, yeah. I mean... Shanks-as far as we know- has no DF, but he is still BOSS. Even without advancement with Luffy's DF, there is still alot of room for improvement.
I think that the rate at which haki strengthens is exponential. It will just keep getting stronger and stronger.

 

[hiche888]

the latest chapter confirmed that he can't eat it, which I am bit disappointed couse i wanted him to eat it, but i'll have to say that's one piece after all they never surprise you at all, I love one piece, but I have to admit it's too random, I mean look at the difference between luffy, ichigo and naruto after time skip or even after training,one piece never seem to surprise me personally but I still love it.

 

[Simple Math]

the latest chapter confirmed that he can't eat it, which I am bit disappointed couse i wanted him to eat it, but i'll have to say that's one piece after all they never surprise you at all, I love one piece, but I have to admit it's too random, I mean look at the difference between luffy, ichigo and naruto after time skip or even after training,one piece never seem to surprise me personally but I still love it.

I'm sure it was confirmed ages ago that you can't eat 2 devil fruits. should be quite obvious.

also, I didn't get the bold part. what exactly were you trying to say?

 

[Pervy Wrath]

I don't think that Luffy is as far away from their level as people think. Right now, I'm guessing he's at Doflamingo's level, and he will obviously surpass him after their fight. Next level after that is probably a 1st mate of a Yonko, someone on Marco's level, then comes Admiral level, then Yonko level. I make it sound easier than it will be though, so don't think I expect him to rise through the ranks just like that. But anyways, I'm pretty certain we will see other strong people along the way as well. Obviously we will see the 1st mates of the other Yonkos, other marines and such. I mean, no one expected that we would see someone like Lucci until we actually did.

 

[TheHokage]

I'm sure it was confirmed ages ago that you can't eat 2 devil fruits. should be quite obvious.

also, I didn't get the bold part. what exactly were you trying to say?

I wouldn't assume eating 2 devil fruits is impossible as it's been shown that Blackbeard was able to and seeing as we don't know the reasons yet I'd say anything could happen.

 

[oerash11]

The one thing that seems to be a little over looked is that we have no idea how strong Luffy is. The closest we have seen is in the mermaid island arc when he half destroyed a ship the size of the island itself and only collapsed from weakness due to blood loss after he did this. And I have a sneaking suspicion that was just an opportunity to create the symbolism of having a fish man offer his blood to a human... not to mention he was underwater for most of that fight, and injured for pretty much the rest.

And we know even less about the yonko the only one of them we have even seen fight was White Beard and that was wile he was already half dead, and black beard pre-time skip without knowing how well he implements his two DF. We know nothing about the other 3 (other than Shanks’s conquerors Haki, and that Big Mama has some kind of DF probably acid or something related) all we have to go by is their reputation.

So with the information provided to us we have no way to tell if Luffy is on their level or even how far off he is. Maybe he won’t need any major power boost; it is possible he will just become naturally stronger by taking on stronger enemies like he has done in the past. I’m not saying we should overestimate him and say he would be able to hand a yonko their butts without an issue, but we shouldn’t underestimate him and say he needs another power boost similar to the time skip just to survive a fight against one.