Is shisui>hashirama?
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Well yeah, that's it. I think that Shisui with KA can beat Hashirama. I also think Shisui with KA cannot beat Hashirama. In the actual Naruto world, Shisui will very likely lose because it's really likely that the KA is in cooldown.
Think about it, why did Kishi give KA such a long cooldown if it wasn't OP?
Yeah... because Kotoamatsumaki will allow Shisui to control Hashirama forever. U_U There's a limit to how long he can use Kotoaatsumaki. Tell me... what else will he do once he uses Kotoamatsumaki on Hashirama?
Stop arguing with seraphiel, Honestly , don't waste your time, His type is the type that won't be swayed by any amount of reasoning you bring. You're going to end up wasting alot of time and effort on nothing.. Because in the end he'll stick to his nonsensical belief
Lookbuddy, i have been telling this guy that KA is permanent on anybody, I know that because it was permanent on Itachi even after the mangekyou disapeered. He keeps ignoring me and what i have said. Basically he is a troll so lets ignore him. Shall we?
Look who's talking. The guys who thinks he's the best just because he quotes you. And even when he does... he edits the quote and responds to only a fraction of what the person wrote. Get real bro... U_U
Yup, But what happened is still a mystery
Shishui could have just reported what happened to the hokage if danzo really did come and attack him...
He didn't..
To me, shishui and danzo had similar ideals, protecting the village from the darkness etc.. It's likely that danzo came to him for the eye and he gave it up..
You have to remember that shishui knew about the mission and knew he was going to die
What? If i didn't reply to your post, or any part of it, It was because it didn't deserve a reply, or has already been covered by someone else
Heh, I don't mind arguing with him. I'm pretty calm and I got nothing else to do at the moment. =)Lookbuddy, i have been telling this guy that KA is permanent on anybody, I know that because it was permanent on Itachi even after the mangekyou disapeered. He keeps ignoring me and what i have said. Basically he is a troll so lets ignore him. Shall we?
I don't think he is a troll either because I do understand where he is coming from. I still think he's wrong though. xD
Lol bro im going to report you right now for spaming a thread by saying irrevalent things and ignoring all facts that have been stated by members. Your last warning to get off this thread before i report you.
U_U Dude, once the MS fades away... you can't use any MS techs(Susano'o being the exception). Have you seen any Uchiha use an MS tech when the MS is not active? No
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U_U Ok... and I care, why? There are other Naruto forums I can go to. This is the internet. U_U
Amaterasu was stated to not die even when MS is not active. However, genjutsu don't stay active once the MS has been deactivated. When Hiruzen fought the Hokages... the genjutsu faded away, right? Hiruzen killing the Hokage is the same way as MS fading away - KA uses MS as the source of power... just like the Hokage uses himself for power.
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Where he's coming from is a totally illogical point, that can't work in any debate... He's assuming things that has never been covered and attempting to use Hashirama's title as strongest shinobi in Madara's time as defence for the Jutsu...
Many people thus far has explained why his logic is flawed and what Ka is capable of, and even then his argument is
Take note we already covered how Ka is more than enough to finish the job...
Now I see he's arguing that it doesn't last long? Once again, completely against the fact that the manga explained Ka implants false memories and commands into the victim, Which would last even when the jutsu was finished..
Just like the effects of tsukyomi lasts even when the jutsu is finished
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