You can disagree with me; now that is what we called opinion. You stating that Obito is a well-written character? Now, for opinions sake, I can or anyone else shouldn't bar you from holding on to it. But, you cannot state that this is some kind of literary fact or that your so-called opinion - which I am sure has been developed with such fastidious care - holds any weight.
Never once called my opinion literary fact, I don't know where you got that from. My opinion holds just as much weight as anyone else's on this site, not denying that either.
When Obito's characterization, by god, is horrendous. The writer's Editor(s) accepted that Naruto never changed, which means, his one sole ideal of aligning 'cool and acceptance' with the position of 'hokage' never truly altered. He remains the same mundane and absurd character he always was. So for Obito to assume Naruto's persona, immediately results in the death of creativity that his literal persona Tobi provided.
& That's a well thought-out opinion, but I didn't come here to try & suade anyone's opinion, especially anyone who may be biased towards sasuke in a thread asking if sasuke is the best written character. I'd be wasting my time.
Yes, I am mature enough, which is why I didn't attack your likeness of Obito, but merely said that calling him a 'well written character' with an allusion of a matter of fact tone is wrong. If it was again your opinion, then no harm done.
It's wrong according to
your opinion, until you show me a degree in writing then you hold just as much weight as I do in determining who is a well written character & who isn't.
I can say sasuke is an awful character, you can say obito is awful, & neither opinion holds any more weight than the other.
I wonder why Obito sympathizers suddenly took to their heels.
If you're referring to me then no, I'm not "taking to my heels". I'm busy today as I said earlier, sorry for having a life.
this is wrong. sasuke didnt completely believe obito words because later on he did question danzo as to whether it was true or not and danzo confirmed it
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I addressed
all of this, simply asking danzo if he gave the order without questioning why or bothering to hear the other side of the story isn't comparable to gaining all the information that obito did. In fact the scan following the three you posted shows danzo explaining to sasuke that shinobi have to make sacrifices yet all he did was ignore it & crush him. [
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] This same point was made by hashi when sasuke finally gained his sense back.
if sasuke had taken obitos words as the absolute truth am pretty sure he wouldnt need extra confirmation,
He didn't ask for confirmation about everything, merely the fact that danzo gave the order, the only thing he cared about when the story was much
much larger than that.
that shows sasuke was in charge of his situation.
No he wasn't, obito was walking him around like his pet. [
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and he didnt attack the summit, he infiltrated it sucessfully as hes plan was only to get danzo and nothing more but zetsu gave out his location which spoiled everything.
He attacked the summit, he killed natives to the land, & he didn't care what the circumstances were as long as he killed danzo. Zetsu ruined the element of surprise, okay well any logical person would then retreat if the 5 kage were on to your plan, but no sasuke decided to charge in & kill anyone in his path.
danzo is a scrub who found it fitting to do nothing while his village was being destroyed all because he wanted to take control, funny you hold his words as truth.
If you read my posts I said there is
some truth to what danzo said, you're going to deny the fact that danzo literally made the same point that hashi made? [
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] Shinobi endure, they sacrifice, that's what it means to be a shinobi.
Danzo may be scum, but he was right about some of the words he spoke & you can't deny that without denying what the concept of a shinobi stands for. He, just as obito went about his goals the wrong way, doesn't make him any less credible.
i really find it funny that a fanboy of obito of all people is criticising sasukes logic and trying to paint obitos in a better light
Find it funny all you want, I never said that either of them had particularly good logic, merely that obito's was better. Lol Nice try but I'm not praising anyone here, simply comparing.
which is pretty ironic consivering hes the fan of someone who found it ideal to put the world under his control mostly because of the death of his crush.
Kakashi wasn't against the idea & he doesn't strike me as the illogical type. [
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] It was a possibility & a sound one at that, & the bold shows me that you're not worth my time anymore. Anyone who still believes that obito was going through with his plan solely because of rin isn't worth my time, I've done this dance before.
dat irony. obito and logic dont go hand in hand.
So he's illogical because he wants to create a world where everyone can live in peace & harmony?
That logic doesn't make sense more than anything.