is sasuke stronger than madara (without the juubi)?

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Base Madara had way more chakra, he would outlast base Sasuke easily.
Just look at Sasuke's katon and Madara katon.

EMS Madara>>>EMS Sasuke easily, EMS Sasuke only could achieve legged Susanoo due to Naruto's Kurama cloak, and you could never even see adult Sasuke only relying on EMS powers because he also always would have Rikudou chakra.

Rinnegan Madara(no JJ)>>> Rinnegan Sasuke(no Rikudou powers) because Limbo is much better than Amenotejikara, and Madara's chakra pool is much larger....

JJ Madara>>> Bijuu PS Sasuke, because Madara have both Naruto and Sasuke's powers, he has RSM and the Rinnegan. + Mokuton and Hashirama's SM + Sharinnegan..

So you are wrong trollking
"just look at Madara's katon and sasuke's katon".

Stupid statement. How do you compare two unequal techniques. Have they both done the same fire Tech's to compare them?

Sasuke has more chakra. Has more skill. And would solo Madara mid diff or less.
 

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He broke out and sliced the God tree quicker than the rasenshuriken that made madara have to power up.

Kept up with Sasukes speed and swordplay that is enough to slice madara in two
Also he broke out against the kage
He broke out with using all of his strength and suffered from injuries...Rikudo Chidori sliced Madara in half... A rikudo jutsu... Kinshiki with the weapon energy thingy at full power sliced the tree. Rasen Shuriken's (made by Rikudo Senjutsu chakra) purpose was to hurt/distract Madara...
 

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1. Comparing to kid sasuke, you are right. Wrong for grown ups

2. Same as #1

3. Rinnegan itself is rikudo power. Limbo is not instant. Ameno is instant. Sword to the heart gg
(Jubi jin or not)

4. Indra arrow is life wiper. If madara didn't have life to begin with, then he wins. Not to mention bijuups blitz rikudo bsm and extreme neg it like its a dummy
I compared it to war arc Sasuke, since adult Sasuke can't be compared to base Madara because adult Sasuke is always relying on Rikudou chakra.

Yes but Rinnegan is only a portion of the Rikudou's powers, JJ is almost full Rikudou power.
Sasuke was scared when Madara had four Limbo's, and Sasuke have to seal Madara together with Naruto's seal, if he stabbed him in the heart then nothing would happen, because BZ only activated Kaguya inside Madara and Madara absorbed all chakra that's why he exploded en changed into Kaguya...
Obito also stabbed JJ Madara in his heart and nothing happened.

Like i said they need to seal Madara, Indra's arrow isn't working, and Madara have many ways to take Sasuke out.

"just look at Madara's katon and sasuke's katon".

Stupid statement. How do you compare two unequal techniques. Have they both done the same fire Tech's to compare them?

Sasuke has more chakra. Has more skill. And would solo Madara mid diff or less.
Who said Sasuke could use it? And why shouldnt he use it? It's much harder to dodge, but never mind that Sasuke had never fought for over 24 hours in his EMS state.

And @bolded that's just very biased and thats is a stupid statement, JJ Madara has way more chakra and would regenerate every time just like Buu...
And Madara has more skill
 
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