Is Sasuke space-time jutsu a ms or rinnegan ability?

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Sasuke's eye is a combination of Rinnegan and his Sharingan, likewise RinneSharingan is a combination of Rinegan and Sharingan but with the power of the Shinju.

If he had the normal Rinnegan he would have it on both eye sockets but he only has one tomoe Rinnegan, likewise Kaguya only had one RinneSharingan. The difference is he doesn't have the Shinju's power like her which would explain why his eye didn't fully evolve into her dojutsu.
No, it's a Rinnegan.
 

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Because when he uses it he losses his ms but keeps his rinnegan and its abilities like amenotejikara.
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It's a rinnegan ability I believe, when Kakashi was talking to Gyuki about the principles of space time ninjutsu he stated that they are not linked with each other. But that theory was debunked after Obito linked Kamui to Kaguya's Amenominaka.

Sasuke's rinnegan must have applied the same principle and he must've linked his space time ninjutsu to Kaguya's somehow.
Just a theory though.
 

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His tomoe Rinnegan is a devolved RinneSharingan so it has Kaguya's feats, Rinnegan users can't use S/t
The reason he obtained it was through Rikudou's Chakra and that's emphasized when he could use Ameno in Gaiden with just a regular Rinnegan as opposed to a Tomoe Rinnegan.

The Tomoe Rinnegan was likely a result of having Indra's KKG and Rikudou's KKG, but Indra's KKG as the Databook states had nothing to do with Sasuke's Ameno.
 
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The reason he obtained it was through Rikudou's Chakra and that's emphasized when he could use Ameno in Gaiden with just a regular Rinnegan as opposed to a Tomoe Rinnegan.

The Tomoe Rinnegan was likely a result of having Indra's KKG and Rikudou's KKG, but Indra's KKG as the Databook states had nothing to do with Sasuke's Ameno.
Did he use it without tomoe? Where?
 

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The reason he obtained it was through Rikudou's Chakra and that's emphasized when he could use Ameno in Gaiden with just a regular Rinnegan as opposed to a Tomoe Rinnegan.
His eye is more evolved than the standard Rinnegan though, it's closer to Kaguya's eye. The standard Rinnegan doesn't grant the ability to travel to Kaguya's dimensions.

The ability to travel to her dimensions was clearly a RinneSharingan feat, yet Sasuke's eye can perform the same feat, to me that suggests it's a Rinnegan which didn't fully evolve into Kaguya's dojutsu hence why it has abilities like S/t and immunity to IT.
 

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The reason he obtained it was through Rikudou's Chakra and that's emphasized when he could use Ameno in Gaiden with just a regular Rinnegan as opposed to a Tomoe Rinnegan.

The Tomoe Rinnegan was likely a result of having Indra's KKG and Rikudou's KKG, but Indra's KKG as the Databook states had nothing to do with Sasuke's Ameno.
Doesn't his tomoe reflect the amount of power left in his Rinnegan? So it's a bit presumptuous to think that he can use Ameno with no tomoe. I think it showed in the manga that Sasuke had to wait for the tomoe to recharge and in that time he couldn't even access his mangekyo.
 

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His eye is more evolved than the standard Rinnegan though, it's closer to Kaguya's eye. The standard Rinnegan doesn't grant the ability to travel to Kaguya's dimensions.
Of course it doesn't because that's an ability exclusive to Sasuke's Rinnegan. I'm still inclined to disagree as Kaguya's Dojutsu allowed her to not only travel to other dimensions, but actually change the world around others as well which is a feat Sasuke is incapable of doing.

The ability to travel to her dimensions was clearly a RinneSharingan feat, yet Sasuke's eye can perform the same feat, to me that suggests it's a Rinnegan which didn't fully evolve into Kaguya's dojutsu hence why it has abilities like S/t and immunity to IT.
I don't necessarily think that is the case. Databook mentions it being an ability derived from Rikudou's Chakra, so Sasuke possessing S/T ninjutsu due to having a devolved form of the RinneSharingan seems unlikely and Sasuke's immunity to Infinite Tsukyomi was due to possessing a Rinnegan.
 

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Doesn't his tomoe reflect the amount of power left in his Rinnegan? So it's a bit presumptuous to think that he can use Ameno with no tomoe. I think it showed in the manga that Sasuke had to wait for the tomoe to recharge and in that time he couldn't even access his mangekyo.
But he did:



Ameno is a Rinnegan technique and swapping with objects falls in that category.
 
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