Is it ever right to take a life?

[Olorin]

Death Penalty - Yes.

Suicide - No.

This always seemed weird to me, why should society be able to kill a person but a person couldnt kill himself?

 

[PhazoN]

This always seemed weird to me, why should society be able to kill a person but a person couldnt kill himself?

One is for the best of society, the other is not.

 

[Olorin]

One is for the best of society, the other is not.

But why if the state is allowed to kill criminals cant a person take his own life? Do you have a logical arument?

 

[YowYan]

But why if the state is allowed to kill criminals cant a person take his own life? Do you have a logical arument?

A farmer wouldn't want his precious cows to kill themselves. The flesh would be spoiled before he'd noticed.
Nowadays, a lot of prisons in the u.s. are being taken over by corporations. Those corps use the inmates as employees in cheap labor. The corporations make money out of it. It's slavery. And for us, 'free' people, it's payed slavery.

 

[PhazoN]

But why if the state is allowed to kill criminals cant a person take his own life? Do you have a logical arument?

People can take their own lives away, but I don't think it's justified, at least in most cases, hence why I think it's wrong to do so. Killing criminals, on the other hand, is justified, as some people are beyond repair and a danger to society.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

haha if only i wasnt too emberassed too tell my sis im on this forum (manga is kinda my guilty pleasure ), shes a lawyer (well 3rd year student) and she would love to have a laugh and slam your justice argument all the way down to hell

i really dont wanna waste time on this but the justice system in the western countries works pretty well

also:

ILLUMINATI DOESNT EXIST, CRAZY PEOPLE ON THE WEB THAT HAVE TOO MUCH TIME AND SPEND TOO LITTLE TIME READING FACTS OR ... YOU KNOW ... NEWS INVENTED THEM!!!

no wonder so many politicians are acting like idiots if they have to convince an electorate that believes in such nonsense as illuminati controlling the world

PS once i opened the illuminati page i closed it and read the rest of your post only half heartedly

Hehe, you can bring anyone you want to argue against this fact. :sy:

"ILLUMINATI DOESNT EXIST, CRAZY PEOPLE ON THE WEB THAT HAVE TOO MUCH TIME AND SPEND TOO LITTLE TIME READING FACTS OR ... YOU KNOW ... NEWS INVENTED THEM!!!" - This is merely an excuse which foolish and ignorant people use to disbelieve in it. This "Illuminati" is a secret organization or group which controls most things behind the scenes. It is unclear who controls this and well, not much people know about it. And even if they did, they apparently can't do much about it....but it exists if anything. If you're not convinced then tell me, what is the purpose of this Entertainment system other than entertaining people? Surely there is much more to it than just giving excitement and happiness.

Politicians are not the best people anyway. Alot of people hate them for their hypocrisy and lies. What is the purpose of Democracy then other than giving every citizen a chance to vote? Now, I know the answer to these questions but I wonna see what you can tell me.

Killing animals for food - Yes.
Killing animals for medical purposes - If there's no other way...
People dying in War - Soldiers can kill themselves all they want, but innocent people should never be targeted.
Getting an Abortion - In some situations.
Assisted Suicide/Euthanasia - If there's no way of recovering and the person is living in pain.
Death Penalty - Yes.
Self-Defence - If necessary.
Suicide - No.

I agree with you apart from Euthanasia since it's like suicide and in some ways similar to Abortion. Also what can you tell me about Feticide. I'm thinking there could be confusion between Abortion and Feticide. U_U

This always seemed weird to me, why should society be able to kill a person but a person couldnt kill himself?

It would've helped if you elaborated a bit more but anyway, it would depend on how the society is killing a person. A society could be affecting a person in multiple ways whether good or bad. If you're talking about Death Penalty then you should check out the earlier points made on the earlier posts.

The answer to your question is Morals and Justifiability. People perceive situations differently. It wouldn't seem right if a person killed himself without a valid reason and saying before hand that he's gonna kill himself because he wants to is not a valid reason. On the other hand, if someone is guilty for committing a big crime like murder or initiating genocide, then there would be a valid reason for why he would deserve Death Penatly.