[Discussion] Is Gol D Roger=Garp?

[Donald J Trump]

I've realised that in the replies on the OP section everyone writes

1.Roger/WB
2.WB/Roger
3.Garp

Etc

I accept that WhiteBeard is = to Roger, but when was it actually stated that Garp was NOT = to Roger?

It was stated by Roger himself that "We have nearly killed each other countless of times". If you nearly KILL each other COUNTLESS of times, that means you're probably fighting with that intent. What I get from that quote is this:

Garp tried to kill Roger many times but failed.
Roger tried to kill Garp many times but also failed.

If they both attempt but are incapable, doesn't this mean they are equal?

Not for nothing but you're putting the same weight on the words said by Buggy as the words said by Roger directly. Roger said, "the two of us have nearly killed each other so many times" to me the fact that "so many times" is included implies they've fought multiple times but neither was able to get the edge for a solid victory, sometimes Garp can make Roger flee, sometimes Roger pushed back Garp.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It was never stated but it's just like you said. I think it's heavily implied because you still need some type of strength to even fight Rogers in the first place.

 

[Sakazuki]

Of course he is, he was Rogers rival, wb wasnt

 

[Wrappering_]

Rogers was more experienced and better-rounded overall.

 

[Sakazuki]

Rogers was more experienced and better-rounded overall.

Posts like this pushes my buttons. Please show a scan proving this

And I would woop you in some D2, even harder in D3

 

[SixPathsMike101]

Rogers was more experienced and better-rounded overall.

its Roger, not rogers. Gol D. Roger

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I've realised that in the replies on the OP section everyone writes

1.Roger/WB
2.WB/Roger
3.Garp

Etc

I accept that WhiteBeard is = to Roger, but when was it actually stated that Garp was NOT = to Roger?

It was stated by Roger himself that "We have nearly killed each other countless of times". If you nearly KILL each other COUNTLESS of times, that means you're probably fighting with that intent. What I get from that quote is this:

Garp tried to kill Roger many times but failed.
Roger tried to kill Garp many times but also failed.

If they both attempt but are incapable, doesn't this mean they are equal?

Roger actually never said that in the Viz translations.

 

[Lord Tywin]

That statement is very conditional just like I said in that other thread. Many things are factored in and we don’t know about the majority of those factors.

 

[Wrappering_]

Posts like this pushes my buttons. Please show a scan proving this

And I would woop you in some D2, even harder in D3

It's just common sense.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

The real question is if Roger is really equal to Garp.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Roger actually never said that in the Viz translations.

So what's the viz translation say?

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

So what's the viz translation say?

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[chopstickchakra]

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Interesting, though it wouldn't be the first time Viz has had the poorer translation despite being official. Brings to question though why would he have chose Garp if he didn't consider him an equal? Why not pick WB, a fellow pirate who he already offered the location of Raftel to? WB could have picked the wife and child up and protected them just as easy as Garp.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Roger, Garp and Whitebeard are pretty much equal in strength with each other. No more.

 

[Olorin]

well I was always of the opinion that the apex of Marines is equal to that of Pirates, which is also why I think ppl are severely underestimating hte admirals atm, so imo Garp+Sengoku=Roger+Whitebeard

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Interesting, though it wouldn't be the first time Viz has had the poorer translation despite being official. Brings to question though why would he have chose Garp if he didn't consider him an equal? Why not pick WB, a fellow pirate who he already offered the location of Raftel to? WB could have picked the wife and child up and protected them just as easy as Garp.

Garp is a family guy. Look at his son Dragon I'm sure Rogers knew about him and he's alive and well. So he knows despite the fact that Garp is in the navy he can still give unconditional love to a Pirate's baby because even his own son is a pirate.
Whitebeard not so much like that, he has to like you first or see some type of potential. Otherwise he wouldn't damage Crocodile like that, probably one of the worse scars in Onepiece.

 

[Olorin]

Garp is a family guy. Look at his son Dragon I'm sure Rogers knew about him and he's alive and well. So he knows despite the fact that Garp is in the navy he can still give unconditional love to a Pirate's baby because even his own son is a pirate.
Whitebeard not so much like that, he has to like you first or see some type of potential. Otherwise he wouldn't damage Crocodile like that, probably one of the worse scars in Onepiece.

funny u say that since WB actually became Ace's ''father'' and I's sure Roger knew very well WB was that kind of man

 

[chopstickchakra]

Garp is a family guy. Look at his son Dragon I'm sure Rogers knew about him and he's alive and well. So he knows despite the fact that Garp is in the navy he can still give unconditional love to a Pirate's baby because even his own son is a pirate.
Whitebeard not so much like that, he has to like you first or see some type of potential. Otherwise he wouldn't damage Crocodile like that, probably one of the worse scars in Onepiece.

True but we know WB and Roger were chummy to a degree because Roger offered to give WB Raftel/OP location, his prized possession. That's basically him choosing WB to follow him so he thought well of him. Plus we know WB ended up taking Ace because he was Rogers son and was grooming him to take his father's position.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Interesting, though it wouldn't be the first time Viz has had the poorer translation despite being official. Brings to question though why would he have chose Garp if he didn't consider him an equal? Why not pick WB, a fellow pirate who he already offered the location of Raftel to? WB could have picked the wife and child up and protected them just as easy as Garp.

Compare Garp's and WB's professions and then tell me which one of the two a baby would be safer under the care of.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Compare Garp's and WB's professions and then tell me which one of the two a baby would be safer under the care of.

A pirate baby under a marine or a pirate baby under the world's strongest pirate who was untouchable at the time. Hmmm. Garp's profession is the last reason you give him the baby of the pirate king. It implies Roger considered Garp as an equal.