Is Edo Tensei part of an individuals own power?

[Meekz89]

Edo tensei could be considered somebodies power, but yall are the same people saying that Kurama is not Naruto's power. Users on NB only is fit the situation for characters they like.

 

[The God of Wind]

Madara WAS part of Kabuto's arsenal, UNTIL Madara broke his contract. Like said himself. Re-read that chapter. Tobirama classified it as forbidden so why would he teach Hiruzen that jutsu? There is no evidence to show that he knows it, show me a page in the manga where he says he can. And if Hiruzen did kno. he didnt use it because he didnt like controlling thedcead like that. ur argument is weak. Its a different form of summoning jutsu, and every jutsu leanred becomes part of that persons power. Edo tensei grant the user the ability to use anothers powers. Simplae as that. But since your the one creating the summoning, it leads back to you, because u can use the person however you want.

It is a fact of the manga, that Hiruzen knew and used every single jutsu that existed in the leaf village! That includes forbidden jutsus! So


You proved my point....Edo Madara is no longer Kabuto's tool, and neither was Edo Itachi! So how can you consider that Kabuto's power? Thats just retarded!

Edo tensei could be considered somebodies power, but yall are the same people saying that Kurama is not Naruto's power. Users on NB only is fit the situation for characters they like.

I dont know about you...but in my opinion, a dead shinobi should not be considered a part of anyone's power! Thats what I think!

 

[LolaxXx]

It is a fact of the manga, that Hiruzen knew and used every single jutsu that existed in the leaf village! That includes forbidden jutsus! So


You proved my point....Edo Madara is no longer Kabuto's tool, and neither was Edo Itachi! So how can you consider that Kabuto's power? Thats just retarded!




I dont know about you...but in my opinion, a dead shinobi should not be considered a part of anyone's power! Thats what I think!

@ underlined: And you know this? it didnt say all FORBIDDEN techs. lol

You proved my point, by you saying "no longer" means that at one point you agree that Madara and Itachi WERE kabuto's summonings. Just because Madara broke his contract, and Itachi by luck was able to break free of Kabuto's control, but was still his summon as shown when he faded away after Edo was released, dosent mean at some point they werent counted as Kabuto's summons. Im telling you, your arguement is weak.
Manga Fact> opinions anyday.

 

[SuperSonicTails]

NO it does not!!. The Fact that you can use Edo Tensei attributes NOTHING to a person's overall abilities. Kabuto is not the strongest ninja in the world, he is a slightly above average medical ninja.

 

[Direcorpse]

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"A complete atrocity"!

Atrocity: An appalling or atrocious act, situation, or object, especially an act of unusual or illegal cruelty.


You all know damn well.....Edo Tensei is not like a regular summoning jutsu, which requires a contract. Far from it.

It is essentially grave robbing! And anyone...even Pakkun, can dig up a persons grave for a bone.


This jutsu's first and foremost requirement is for the subjected 'Ninja to be Dead'! Not to mention.....a living sacrifice!


It should not be considered a part of someone's power! The complete opposite infact!


Do you think Sandaime didnt have any knowledge about this jutsu? If you do then, LOL! He obviously did! But he chose never to use it, and relied on his own power!


If this jutsu was considered normal and useable.....dont you think that every new Hokage would have had the previous Hokage as an Edo for a back up? No! There is a reason this jutsu was forbidden!

Wake up people!

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It shouldn't, but the villains still use it since it's a strong jutsu & because they're villains haha.
If you're posting this as to try and wake up NB members NOT to use it for it's argument purposes, or rather stop justifying for their characters to use it in their arsenal, then I don't know what you're doing :\ but it sure as hell won't be of any difference.

Orochimaru, Madara, Kabuto, Obito, Tobirama ( arguably Hiruzen )
Those people knew of it and all but 2 ( or 3 ) have shown to have used it, but still they have a knowledge of the jutsu which still stands as part of their power. Doesn't necessarily mean that they're inhumane, especially for Hiruzen.

P.S. if Konohamaru were to learn and perform the jutsu, that would be an interesting twist in the story haha. Although, anyone capable of learning the jutsu itself would pose a threat sure but that still depends on their power and if they can manage to control their Edos.

 

[3MESSIAH]

of course it`s a part of one`s power.this is the same as if you would take away all of ten ten`s ninja tools and told her:A-A you cant use those,they are not the part of your power!U_U

 

[Direcorpse]

I dont know about you...but in my opinion, a dead shinobi should not be considered a part of anyone's power! Thats what I think!

Well, yes of course it shouldn't but the jutsu has already been made which is why it's forbidden. I personally wouldn't want that for myself, which is why Hiruzen was filled with sorrow while fighting Tobirama and Hashirama while Orochimaru confronted him. It's honestly atrocious as you say, but it's been made and it simply cannot be undone. Especially now that even Obito knows of the technique. I could only imagine if Minato was in Edo-Tensei >______________________________________________>

 

[The God of Wind]

P.S. if Konohamaru were to learn and perform the jutsu, that would be an interesting twist in the story haha. Although, anyone capable of learning the jutsu itself would pose a threat sure but that still depends on their power and if they can manage to control their Edos.

That includes everyone who knows how to mold chakra and make handseals. They just have to know the formula, everyone from Genin to Kage level is a potential Edo Tensei user, all they need is the formula and a sacrifice! Plus...the ninja they want to summon has to be DEAD! Cmon man, that is not an individuals strength!

 

[TheSages456]

It's just an overpowered Kuchiyose no jutsu whether you like it or not. Edo Tensei even follows the same method of creating a

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between the summons and the summoner. The Edo summons are to Kabuto what Ma and Pa are to Jiraiya. His pawns are

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of his power. He summons the ninja, he controls them, he wins.

kishis lesson through itachi says that edo tensei isnt a part of someones power.

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the author himself doesnt even think that edo tensei is a part of someones power.
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[OnPoint]

kishis lesson through itachi says that edo tensei isnt a part of someones power.

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the author himself doesnt even think that edo tensei is a part of someones power.
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Right so Itachi says it and it's coming directly from Kishimoto's mouth? Laughable. Edo Tensei is a Kuchiyose and if people want to ignore it then any and all summons should be disregarded from other ninja's power aswell (Gedo Mazo from Nagato, Kurama from Madara etc).

 

[The God of Wind]

Right so Itachi says it and it's coming directly from Kishimoto's mouth? Laughable. Edo Tensei is a Kuchiyose and if people want to ignore it then any and all summons should be disregarded from other ninja's power aswell (Gedo Mazo from Nagato, Kurama from Madara etc).

You know as well as I do...whenever Kishi teaches a character a lesson, it is always from his heart.....and it is the true lesson!

And none of those summons require any person or any animal.... to be DEAD!

 

[Direcorpse]

kishis lesson through itachi says that edo tensei isnt a part of someones power.

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the author himself doesnt even think that edo tensei is a part of someones power.
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Can't tell if troll, or misinterpretation.
He meant Kabuto's drive to be a powerful ninja, that which makes him believe that they all belong to him now since he's achieved what Orochimaru has not. NOT Edo-Tensei, Itachi only wanted to undo it and not comment about if it it's the individuals power or not.

 

[The God of Wind]

Can't tell if troll, or misinterpretation.
He meant Kabuto's drive to be a powerful ninja, that which makes him believe that they all belong to him now since he's achieved what Orochimaru has not. NOT Edo-Tensei, Itachi only wanted to undo it and not comment about if it it's the individuals power or not.

And how do you know Itachi wasn't talking about everything Kabuto had done in the war?

Furthermore look at this:

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Kabuto obviously seems to think he is a God, and that lesson with Itachi is exactly what Kishi is trying to say, about all of his powers!

 

[Direcorpse]

You know as well as I do...whenever Kishi teaches a character a lesson, it is always from his heart.....and it is the true lesson!

And none of those summons require any person or any animal.... to be DEAD!

I'm sure Kishi isn't teaching anyone to sacrifice anyone for anything TnT if that's what you're getting at. Or so at least I hope he's not subliminally saying that, that would be something... haha. All in all, yes it isn't such a ' good ' jutsu to use since you need a live sacrifice for it. However, it's there and people such as Orochimaru and Kabuto have used it since they're evil. Do you understand? I mean I don't want you getting upset over this trivial post, but it is what it is in the ' ninja world '.

 

[The God of Wind]

I'm sure Kishi isn't teaching anyone to sacrifice anyone for anything TnT if that's what you're getting at. Or so at least I hope he's not subliminally saying that, that would be something... haha. All in all, yes it isn't such a ' good ' jutsu to use since you need a live sacrifice for it. However, it's there and people such as Orochimaru and Kabuto have used it since they're evil. Do you understand? I mean I don't want you getting upset over this trivial post, but it is what it is in the ' ninja world '.

You deliberately said that to misinterpret my message! You know fukking well I am talking about Kishi's lessons to the characters after certain fights! Or... you're just not that smart.......
Lessons meaning:
Naruto's victory speech to Neji
Naruto's words to Gaara
Naruto's words to Nagato
Jiraiya's words to Oro during Sannin showdown, and his last words. etc etc

Those are the true lessons I am talking about! Only a fukking moron would misinterpret that and take it the wrong way!

 

[iSpeak]

People consider summons a part of their power and people consider Sasori's "human puppets" (such as 3rd Kazekage) a part of his power. Edo Tensei is a cross between the two. Its his power no matter how OP it is.

 

[The God of Wind]

People consider summons a part of their power and people consider Sasori's "human puppets" (such as 3rd Kazekage) a part of his power. Edo Tensei is a cross between the two. Its his power no matter how OP it is.

How do you figure that? Sasori actually killed those people! So in a sick and twisted way, he earned them!

Kabuto basically just got his shovel and lantern and went searching for their graves!! The only people he killed were the fodders who's bodies were to be used!

That comparison is shit! And so is the summon to summon comparison!

This is so retarded!

 

[iSpeak]

How do you figure that? Sasori actually killed those people! So in a sick and twisted way, he earned them!

Kabuto basically just got his shovel and lantern and went searching for their graves!! The only people he killed were the fodders who's bodies were to be used!

That comparison is shit! And so is the summon to summon comparison!

This is so retarded!

So you need to earn an ability for it to be considered yours? So Yamato's Mokuton isn't part of his power? Danzo's Izanagi isn't part of his power? Every jutsu Kakashi copied isn't part of his? Nagato's Rinnegan isn't part of his? etc.

First you say this:

but in my opinion, a dead shinobi should not be considered a part of anyone's power! Thats what I think!

...but then you go against your own words and give Sasori the benefit of the doubt because he "earned" them? It looks like you are just making up your own rules to single out Edo Tensei as ones power.

 

[TobisPawn]

kishis lesson through itachi says that edo tensei isnt a part of someones power.

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the author himself doesnt even think that edo tensei is a part of someones power.
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I'm pretty sure he was talking about all the DNA Kabuto injected into himself...

OT: Yes, just like Kurama is considered a part of Madara & Obito's, etc.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

In the words of one of the greatest ninja in the world:

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"A complete atrocity"!

Atrocity: An appalling or atrocious act, situation, or object, especially an act of unusual or illegal cruelty.


You all know damn well.....Edo Tensei is not like a regular summoning jutsu, which requires a contract. Far from it.

It is essentially grave robbing! And anyone...even Pakkun, can dig up a persons grave for a bone.


This jutsu's first and foremost requirement is for the subjected 'Ninja to be Dead'! Not to mention.....a living sacrifice!


It should not be considered a part of someone's power! The complete opposite infact!


Do you think Sandaime didnt have any knowledge about this jutsu? If you do then, LOL! He obviously did! But he chose never to use it, and relied on his own power!


If this jutsu was considered normal and useable.....dont you think that every new Hokage would have had the previous Hokage as an Edo for a back up? No! There is a reason this jutsu was forbidden!

Wake up people!

WTF are you talking about. It was said that Edo Tensei was used to clear a battlefield, so it obviously was used in battle.


It could have been easily considered "normal and useable". Think about the Will of Fire. I'm sure in the middle of important battles, when a Senju dies, I'm confident that he has no objection of being temporarily brought back to life to help save the lives of his fellow comrades that are still living and fighting. Imagine in fights the Senjus NEVER DIE because even when you kill them, they get brought back to life via EDO and now they are "immortal" and still fighting against you. Who in the hell would beat the Senju under these circumstances...? NO ONE, not even the famed Uchiha Clan.