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Army of snakes rinnehawks ? Since Aoda and Garuda became army ?
Ma Pa sound genjutsu>Sasuke since he has no any genjutsu feats without the Sharingan.
Is Base Sasuke > Base Naruto?
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Ma Pa sound genjutsu>Sasuke since he has no any genjutsu feats without the Sharingan.
Say that to VOTE1 2 Tome Sasuke who was getting his ass handed to him by Kyuubi mode naruto, Then when he got his 3rd tomoe he was actually able to fight somewhat on equal terms with in him CQC.
Sharingan helps drastically in Tajutsu fights, It's not even funny how a 3T uchiha can fight on par in Taijutsu with someone who would normally be out of their league.
You do know, 3T sharingan just makes it easier to read movements, right? Naruto going kyuubi mode enhanced his speed beyond 2 tomoe sharingan reading level
In what way did it improve his taijutsu? Since the first thing he did when he activated 3T was dodge Narutos punch
That's because KN0 Naruto's speed overcame his mind+bodily reaction speed. He could barely see his attacks and even in occasions he could, his body movement wasn't fast enough to react. It doesn't mean however that Sasuke's taijutsu improved with an additional tomoe in his sharingan. No, it's the mind perception(thanks to the additional tomoe) that increased his mind reading giving him extra-perception time he didn't have for his body movement to suffice
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lol. There is a snake village. Just like there's a frog village. Where do you think all those smaller snakes we have seen come from. Sasuke can summon same number of snakes naruto summons of toads. But your genjutsu thing may be a solid argument.
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because he could see his movements. that's what sharingan does. Unless you are saying that base naruto's speed is up to and greater than base sasuke's then what you have just said does not apply.
Yeah. but they both have rikudou chakra even in base mode. take that away and we will still have base sasuke faster than base naruto.
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How does the sharingans ability to read movements not improve their ability to fight in Taijutsu?.
Being able to read someones movements to the point you know where their attacks are going to land before they actually land and allowing you to dodge attacks you otherwise wouldn't be able to in my books does increase ones overall ability to fight with Taijutsu.
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Lol. If only that mattered considering FRS>>Chidori.
What's funny is that your piss poor reading comprehension lead you to believe people thought Sasuke was the same as VoTE, even though no one ever said or implied that. Thanks for not adding anything to the discussion btw.
You said that clones aren't a problem because he was able to take out those fodders with his sword, meaning you are saying that taking out those fodders is a feat that lets him take out clones. I understand what was in your post perfectly. Either you don't understand it yourself or you are trying to change the meaning cause you realized how dumb your post sounded.
If you had just said that Sasuke's swordmanship is great, and used those events as back up, you'd have a point, but saying "Clones aren't a problem because he took out all those fodders" means exactly what it says.
Reading Comp 101 anyone?
I'm curious as to how that is relevant? Doesn't change the fact that Base Naruto and Base Sasuke were equal in CQC. Now does it? I'm talking about one on one pure Taijutsu.
Already knew this, already addressed Shunshin speed.
His Katon isn't going to be any larger. It'll be stronger, but not larger. Did his Katon get larger when he got Hagoromo's power? No. Did his Chidori get stronger though? Yes.
Yes. Sasuke can evade a guided Rasen Shuriken because you say so? Lmao. What? Naruto throws FRS, Sasuke jumps above it, sidesteps it, or Shunshin's away from it and then it comes right back around and cuts him in half. That doesn't even mention clones, not to mention he has no Sharingan. Get that nonsense out of here please.
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In a sense it improves taijutsu i guess. But in a battle with someone slower than you are. It doesn't really change much does it?
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But the clones would be moving at speeds his normal eyes could follow easily. So it's basically the same thing. He would handle them the same as if he had 3T.
Yes but sasuke hasn't Eyes in the back of his head and following multiple clones and multiple attacks from Multiple angles while also not trying to leave an opening is something the sharingan would make so much easier.
- Reading compensation? Everyone arguing for Naruto are comparing the last Naruto to Vote 2 Sasuke, i don't need impressive readings skills to see the bias
- And i stand with what i said, If 15 year old Sasuke can successfully fight hundreds of ninjas using his sword only and without return blood, that obviously shows his level of kinjutsu is impressive, combining that with chidori and improved kinjutsu than clones won't be a problem
- Guided FRS? Whats stopping Sasuke from completely obliterating Naruto with his chidori like he did with the meteorite? He isn't the only one with improved skills :lol
Theres a reason why he couldn't react to Lees taijutsu before the chunin exam
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Even if you can see the movement its useless if you can't react, like i said the sharingan doesn't improve taijutsu or speed in anyway, you need to already have impressive taijutsu and speed for the ability to be effective
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His chidori was never shown to be any stronger than normal after he got rikudou power up, only color change(incorporating rikudou chakra), that does not show his chidori damage level increased. But the last showed that his abilities increased, therefore all his normal attacks also. Dodging a guided rasenshuriken is easy. It's like someone chasing him, he can evade it. The real problem would be rasenshuriken exploding in his vicinity. there's also the option of using an attack to intercept FRS before it gets anywhere near him. I've already mentioned how much faster base sasuke is than base naruto. Naruto is in danger of getting blitzed.
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Where did anyone say that? Huh?
Lol, first you tell me that I didn't read your post correctly, now you are indeed agreeing that you meant what I know you meant? Lmao.
Sorry buddy. Sasuke fighting fodder isn't a feat that lets him take out Naruto's clones with ease, considering Naruto's clones>>>Fodders.
Hmm, let's see. Naruto would easily be able to feint it with a clone or even outright evade it considering no Sharingan means he gets tunnel vision, meaning he'll only see what's ahead of him. Naruto would easily be able to evade him or even better, he'd be able to counter attack with Rasengan, which has been shown to be equal to Chidori many times. Or he can counter with a clone barrage of Rasengans, or he can counter with FRS.
