[Discussion] In terms of raw phyiscal strength Luffy is unmatched

[NarutoBmx33]

No it's lazy. And to dismiss it because "real-life calculations don't apply to manga" Is foolish.

You mean like which Strawhat is the most durable and which is the physically strongest? By your logic, the whole forum shouldn't really exist.

The forum should exist so comparisons can be made between characters in the manga and all the content inside the manga that is relevant to everything in it. When you start comparing it to outside applications, then you're wasting your time. It's not lazy, its being smart and just not wasting your time at it lol

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

One thing is for certain. Shrek >>> Luffy in strength.

 

[Punk Hazard]

The forum should exist so comparisons can be made between characters in the manga and all the content inside the manga that is relevant to everything in it. When you start comparing it to outside applications, then you're wasting your time. It's not lazy, its being smart and just not wasting your time at it lol

And I could just as easily say any threads involving Roger and Whitebeard going up against certain people is never gonna happen, so the threads are a waste of time.

Doing the calculations aren't a waste of time, it's a good debating tool and helps with understanding the manga.

 

[NarutoBmx33]

And I could just as easily say any threads involving Roger and Whitebeard going up against certain people is never gonna happen, so the threads are a waste of time.

Doing the calculations aren't a waste of time, it's a good debating tool and helps with understanding the manga.

If you compare Roger and WB to real people, then yes. Thats what im trying to say.

If it helps you understand the manga better then by all means, compare it to real life. In my opinion, its just a waste of time

 

[A v i]

How is a flying slash more impressive than moving a 700 ton ball so fast that a guy who can travel at the speed of light can't avoid it knowing the exact time and location of it?

Current luffy is far stronger now and Zoros PS feat is above current Luffy so I have no reason to think about that feat and don't use those calculations to justify the arguments as no one except u cares about them.

Yea that has nothing on elephant gatling

Breaking 100 rocks with 50 hits or breaking them all with single hit.

Which is more impressive and which one has more strength?hmm

Common sense bro.

 

[Olorin]

Breaking 100 rocks with 50 hits or breaking them all with single hit.

Which is more impressive and which one has more strength?hmm

Common sense bro.

yes and the sharp side of a blade is nothing but pure raw physical power

 

[sravan]

he is the main lead of the story so he should be strong and at the end of the story i believe he will even surpass roger

 

[A v i]

yes and the sharp side of a blade is nothing but pure raw physical power

It doesn't matter. Give that sword to Luffy, can he pull that feat? No.

 

[Olorin]

It doesn't matter. Give that sword to Luffy, can he pull that feat? No.

Ofc not he doesn't know how to use a sword

It all comes down to the fact that Luffy is physically stronger than Zoro

 

[Punk Hazard]

It doesn't matter. Give that sword to Luffy, can he pull that feat? No.

That's due to lack of skill specific to swordplay, not the lack of physical strength. Luffy was able to push apart more than one building with absolutely no leverage, but Zoro was stuck in a mere chimney.

It's been made clear time and time again Luffy is physically stronger than Zoro.

 

[Love Cook]

It doesn't matter. Give that sword to Luffy, can he pull that feat? No.

Let Zoro inflate his arm first and coat it with haki, I think Luffy would do better with a sword than Zoro with his arm.

That's due to lack of skill specific to swordplay, not the lack of physical strength. Luffy was able to push apart more than one building with absolutely no leverage, but Zoro was stuck in a mere chimney.

It's been made clear time and time again Luffy is physically stronger than Zoro.

You have to be careful with that argument, I used it once and I was ambushed by the Zoro fanboy clan saying that it was much harder to get out of the chimney.

Even though the chimney only consists out of one layer of brick and Luffy was between apartment buildings, the chimney was stronger.

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[Punk Hazard]

Let Zoro inflate his arm first and coat it with haki, I think Luffy would do better with a sword than Zoro with his arm.



You have to be careful with that argument, I used it once and I was ambushed by the Zoro fanboy clan saying that it was much harder to get out of the chimney.

Even though the chimney only consists out of one layer of brick and Luffy was between apartment buildings, the chimney was stronger.

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It's kinda sad that I can actually see people here saying that.

 

[Bogard]

It's not that the chimney was stronger. It's the difference in position that played a role. Zoro was trapped in reverse position(against the gravity) where his arm and muscle were completely strucked in a 4 way thin layer with impossibility to move his muscles/arms(hands). On the other side Luffy's arms were mobile enough(especially with his rubber body) to be able to put pressure on the wall and eventhen he still couldn't get out during a long while. If you can't flex your arms, you can't put enough pressure on an object. Zoro arcs before that(in the alabasta arc) already showed the capacity to carry a much more bigger building. If you really think that in an adequate position, Zoro couldn't have managed against that small chimney, then you're stupid.

 

[Love Cook]

It's kinda sad that I can actually see people here saying that.

Haha look, there it is !

I didn't even had to look for it, they just posted it again :') Oh man this is so stupid that they're defending this.

"you know Zoro was upside down bruh, he muzt be 100x stronger to escape the chimney of death man. Luffy had it easy with his rubber body."

It's not that the chimney was stronger. It's the difference in position that played a role. Zoro was trapped in reverse position(against the gravity) where his arm and muscle were completely strucked in a 4 way thin layer with impossibility to move his muscles/arms(hands). On the other side Luffy's arms were mobile enough(especially with his rubber body) to be able to put pressure on the wall and eventhen he still couldn't get out during a long while. If you can't flex your arms, you can't put enough pressure on an object. Zoro arcs before that(in the alabasta arc) already showed the capacity to carry a much more bigger building. If you really think that in an adequate position, Zoro couldn't have managed against that small chimney, then you're stupid.

You really are a special kind of stupid. I hope someone takes a screenshot and places this in a signature. Nobody should ever take you serious again.

 

[Tomato God]

It's not that the chimney was stronger. It's the difference in position that played a role. Zoro was trapped in reverse position(against the gravity) where his arm and muscle were completely strucked in a 4 way thin layer with impossibility to move his muscles/arms(hands). On the other side Luffy's arms were mobile enough(especially with his rubber body) to be able to put pressure on the wall and eventhen he still couldn't get out during a long while. If you can't flex your arms, you can't put enough pressure on an object. Zoro arcs before that(in the alabasta arc) already showed the capacity to carry a much more bigger building. If you really think that in an adequate position, Zoro couldn't have managed against that small chimney, then you're stupid.

If he couldnt move how did he use his sword?

 

[Bogard]

@Love Cook the only one who shouldn't be taken seriously is you. Hence my reply was none of your concern

If he couldnt move how did he use his sword?

I didn't say he couldn't move. I said he couldn't move his hands enough to put enough pressure on the wall. He still could move his hands(but not his arms). Moving his hands were enough however to use his sword

 

[Tomato God]

@Love Cook the only one who shouldn't be taken seriously is you. Hence my reply was none of your concern
I didn't say he couldn't move. I said he couldn't move his hands enough to put enough pressure on the wall. He still could move his hands(but not his arms). Moving his hands were enough however to use his sword

He can move his hands so he could put pressure on something. You were making it seem like he couldnt move at all.
Luffy was pinned completely no free hands and or legs. Zoro's legs and hands were free and Zoro STILL needed his sword.

 

[Bogard]

He can move his hands so he could put pressure on something. You were making it seem like he couldnt move at all.
Luffy was pinned completely no free hands and or legs. Zoro's legs and hands were free and Zoro STILL needed his sword.

Like i've said, when you can't flex your arms, you can't put enough pressure on an object. You can still put pressure with the hand power, but with the impossibility to use the arm power, you can't exert yourself fully on an object. Zoro was in that position against the chimney. Besides, Zoro is a swordsman, not a brawler. Obviously he is more comfortable with his swords(and has more skills as well) than in hand to hand combat. With a section of his hand free, he could use the hand power to create enough force to section the chimney in half

And no, Luffy's arms were completely free. He even has a rubber body that gives him elasticity advantage

Like i've said, Zoro in alabasta arc could carry a much bigger, heavier building, throwing it away(while being close to death at that) as if it was nothing. Thinking that in a normal position he couldn't have manage against a smaller chimney is stupid and exactly comparable to me taking the Luffy example of not being able to break away from regular rope(in Fishmen island) to try to downplay him

 

[Love Cook]

He can move his hands so he could put pressure on something. You were making it seem like he couldnt move at all.
Luffy was pinned completely no free hands and or legs. Zoro's legs and hands were free and Zoro STILL needed his sword.

Oh come on, please stop and don't argue about this.

Zoro was in a small chimney and Luffy between 2 buildings. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out which one takes more strength to break.

Please don't respond to him anymore, because he will keep going and I can't handle that level of stupidity.

 

[Tomato God]

Like i've said, when you can't flex your arms, you can't put enough pressure on an object. You can still put pressure with the hand power, but with the impossibility to use the arm power, you can't exert yourself fully on an object. Zoro was in that position against the chimney. Besides, Zoro is a swordsman, not a brawler. Obviously he is more comfortable with his swords(and has more skills as well) than in hand to hand combat. With a section of his hand free, he could use the hand power to create enough force to section the chimney in half

And no, Luffy's arms were completely free. He even has a rubber body that gives him elasticity advantage

Like i've said, Zoro in alabasta arc could carry a much bigger, heavier building, throwing it away(while being close to death at that) as if it was nothing. Thinking that in a normal position he couldn't have manage against a smaller chimney is stupid and exactly comparable to me taking the Luffy example of not being able to break away from regular rope(in Fishmen island) to try to downplay him

zoro's building wasnt even a building.

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It was a little bish ass corner part of one,
Luffy can't even be compared to the size of his building feat

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See that top right hand corner panel thats the entire street block.
Luffy wrecked that.
Zoro cut a chimney instead of just breaking it.