In-Depth study: Minato>Itachi

[Shamami]

I think it's quite unique if a ninja have the ability to sense danger. The mark on the kunai is a jutsu that alerts Minato. If someone that has the mark is in grave danger, it will alert Minato like how he was able to help Kakashi. By the way, I would like to ask your opinion about the rasengan that has the mark. I think it's a mark on the rasengan. If Minato can incorporate his mark on a chakra then he can tag susanoo.

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Is that Minato's mark on the rasengan? I'm not sure but it looks like a mark to me.

K so how do explain the part when itachi wanted to talk to naruto, before sasuke's fight and naruto had summoned two shadow clones behind itachi and itachi simply threw 2 kuni without even looking. Is it becuz he can sense danger too???

Also the part were he dodged both bee's and naruto's attack at the same time. He cud hv dodged naruto's but how did he block killer bee who tried to hit him in the blind spot??? Is it becuz he can sense danger 2????????????????????


Explain please....

 

[The Silent Killer]

i agree wid u man 100%... gud effort

 

[warawar]

minato is so strong
remember when the ninja war thay sayed to ther ninjas if you so minato run
he was the faster man in the wrold

 

[Necron]

No... I refuse to get involved in a flame war, every time a minato fanboy has a bonner about Minato... U_U

I'm out of here...

 

[DeViliShChild]

Itachi uses his intelligence to combat every single one of your enlargements. Itachi wins.

 

[jtolliver87]

They are =

 

[kellzfresh]

1. minato looked constantly in tobi's face. tobi has a sharingan. maybe minato never fought against the sharingan, in difference to guy.
2. melee-range-attacks dont work against susano'o
3. gaara's sand was already discussed, right? apart from that, the sand was what madara was standing on, so it was already inside susano'o when madara started susano'o.
4. zetsu is a sensor, i think that he senses chakra and chakra rises due to air-pressure. he's a plant after all.
5. a looked him in the eye. i still think that itachi's genjutsus are more of a pain anyway.
6. see 2
7. you mean the thing he blocked tbb with? i thought that it was some kind of "gate" that leads to another place. i dont think that you can catch somebody with that.

btw, i'm neither a minato-, nor a itachi-fan. i only think that fighting against itachi if he's trying to kill is hard, and that susano'o is pretty sick.

1. tobi was wearing a mask, and it is dificult to really see his sharingan unless you are a sharingan user like kakashi and sasuke
2. I said he can use space time barrier to transport yata malgamata back to itachi
3. The sand that was around madara covers space, so i think that minato can teleport few meters away from his kunai into that space inside susanoo.
4. Not just zetsu, but edo nagato told naruto that itachi wants to use amaterazu, while nagato was behind itachi
5. A looked in the eye but minato doesnt need to since he can sense air pressure before itachi's amaterasu
6. Because itachi wont see him coming, susanoo cant hit him.
7. I mean the barrier he created to prevent third hokage from entering where the nine tails was sealed into naruto

 

[Hyuuga Itachi]

I don't need for someone to mention that. All I have to do is understand and analyze it. You are assuming that Minato was checking rin and kakashi. Just in time when kakashi was about to die? post me the scan where itachi switches from regular sharingan to MS in his fight with sasuke. They started the fight with genjutsu and the time that itachi shows his real self he's already in his MS mode. Are you neglecting the scans i've posted. Am I making those scans? Is closing an eye takes 30 secs? come on...

Erm I am not saying that is the reason but what i am saying is don't assume that its because he can sense danger, just to try and back up ur point its just biased towards minato, and your assuming that itachi takes forever to activate MS look at kakashi he used MS against pain and sasuke without them even knowing and Sasuke and Madara activated it just like normal sharingan will you stand there and say itachi isn't able to do this aswell if so then you actually the biggest biased fan boy that i have ever come across

 

[Blaze Release]

How this fail thread got this many replies is beyond me.
Then again, troll/fail threads usually end up being hot anyway.

Just took my time to skim read the op and it reeks with failure.

 

[Dantee]

Wow this stupid OP thinks Minatos kunai can sense amateretsu coming that appears in an instant. WOW!

 

[Better]

Wow this stupid OP thinks Minatos kunai can sense amateretsu coming that appears in an instant. WOW!

amaterasu doesn't appear in an instant :|

 

[Wolfang714]

I actually think this is a pretty good thread U_U
Although, I would have broken the analysis' up into sections, like Base Minato vs. Base Itachi, (Taijutsu) Minato vs. Itachi, (Ninjutsu) Minato vs. Itachi, and (Genjutsu) Minato vs. Itachi. And the genjutsu does not imply who is capable of performing genjutsu better, but who can execute and avoid Genjutsu the better. He did forget Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade, but come on he presented his facts and it was pretty In-Depth. This person is not a Minato fanboy in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I think Itachi is a boss, but so is Minato.
EDIT: DRAW

 

[OWanime]

well that's the only argument you need, without knowledge itachi will win because he has more insight on determining weaknesses and strengths, one look at itachi's hands an dit may be over plus I'm pretty sure minato can't warp away all the jutsus itachi throws or he would be sage level because he doesn't need chakra xd

 

[true enigma]

Itachi wins mid difficulty at the most

 

[TheKBD]

useless thread, making up stupid theories

One person's opinion is not stupid, its their opinion and yes he didnt put all of itachi-san's tech into this thread and so did not properly represent Itachi, however im a ItaMina fanboy [no homo, just think both charas are epic] and in my opinion it would be pretty evenly matched, Itachi is a genius, however Minato is more skilled and has already formulated an intricate and tedious battle plan with multiple openings for improvisation, in addition you have to remember that Itachi had some unknown illness which made him weaker than normal, so even in his prime he would be at a disadvantage, however, Itachi, as we have seen does his best work against impossible odds. [namely murdering the uchiha clan]

 

[Sabuto Hayashi]

God, sometimes I really wish Kishi would make a chapter based on Minato vs Itachi so we could all shut up about this debate.:sy:

 

[Revan]

1. tobi was wearing a mask, and it is dificult to really see his sharingan unless you are a sharingan user like kakashi and sasuke
2. I said he can use space time barrier to transport yata malgamata back to itachi
3. The sand that was around madara covers space, so i think that minato can teleport few meters away from his kunai into that space inside susanoo.
4. Not just zetsu, but edo nagato told naruto that itachi wants to use amaterazu, while nagato was behind itachi
5. A looked in the eye but minato doesnt need to since he can sense air pressure before itachi's amaterasu
6. Because itachi wont see him coming, susanoo cant hit him.
7. I mean the barrier he created to prevent third hokage from entering where the nine tails was sealed into naruto

1. minato in the midst of the fight assumed, that he was fighting madara, so he should have known, that he might be fighting a sharingan-user. nevertheless he still looked constantly into tobi's face, risking to see his eyes and get caught in a genjutsu.
2. then i might have misread your post. yata maigamata doesnt seem to be so fast, so i dont think that it's that dangerous.
3. I've read a few times, that nagato is a sensor in that thread, although i'm not sure about that. however, people like naruto and especially bee (twice) didnt see it coming.
4. see three.
apart from that: please back minato being a sensor up with any evidence before continuing to use that point. minato did not sense anything, when tobi killed the guards outside, he did not sense tobi when he entered the room and he did not notice tobi when he appeared behind him on the monument. he is no sensor, and he cant feel danger in a way that is not a result of experience or insight.
5. because minato cant break susano'o, he cant beat him until susano'o runs out. if he doesnt look in his eyes for all the 10 or 15 minutes, he's fine. otherwise he's dead.
apart from that i dont think that minato is faster than what itachi can follow if he doesnt use ftg 2, which greatly restricts his movement to the kunais which he spreads. if itachi manages to cover them all, he can hunt minato with susano'o and stress him out, and the possibility of minato making a mistake, looking in his eye, increases much.
6. the third could bow it with his bare hand, i dont think that he could really seal somebody with susano'o or amaterasu there for long.

 

[ajpn920]

Can the OP explain to me how Minato is able to "sense danger"? You said that he has shown this ability by saving Kushina and Kakashi.

Pure speculation there.

First off, Minato simply saved Kushina because if you remember, Minato and Naruto teleported away from Kushina, leaving her with a stranger wearing a mask. If I left my wife with a stranger, I'm definitely going to come back and save her. It was just by coincidence that Minato managed to save Kushina before she was killed by Kurama.

Secondly, if Minato can "sense danger", why didn't he save Obito. Are you telling me that Minato only put a mark on Kakashi and not the rest of his squad?

How many times I have to explain that the mark on his kunai alerts him. Question: Alerts him of what? Are neglecting the scans I've provided. I'll post again and read it well.

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Tobi explaining why Minato incorporated his mark to the seal

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Read the picture. It says the mark alerts Minato WHEN IT FLIES.
And he already knew that Kushina was in danger but he had to save Naruto first.
Your argument that he can sense danger is wrong.
You are really biased on Minato. I'm not saying he isn't awesome, but the only jutsu he has shown is : sealing, summoning, barrier, and ftg.
Itachi jutsu : fire style, exploding clone, tsukiyomi, amaterassu, yasaka no magatami, sword of totsuka, genjutsu,
and people forget to mention that 3 tomoe sharingan is accustomed to extreme speeds, as sasuke showed against Naruto (cloak mode).

Just look at the scans and analyze it well. Please read Tobi's lines and if you can analyze then good to know. Don't be close minded.

You ignored so many factors here dude
you really think minato can fight itachi without eye contact? Lol last time i checked guy was the only person who could fight an opponent without eye contact after countless battle with his number one rival kakashi... Moreover itachi can still put his victims under genjutsu without eye contact

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and this is all assuming minato knows not to løok at itachi's eyes even when he looked at tobi's.... -_- not to mention itachi's explosive clones and super fast handseals.
Cuz i wouldn't be suprised if minato dies trying to tag an explosive clone lol
see how easily he trapped oro in a genjutsu

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he had his back turned and still trapped oro... Oro was at his mercy... Sorry to burst your bubbles but it's gonna take more than ftg and some rasengan to fight itachi xd

I have explained it in the previous thread that all Itachi has to offer to defeat Minato is genjutsu and I've explained it how it will work. It's better if you read all before making a comment.

K so how do explain the part when itachi wanted to talk to naruto, before sasuke's fight and naruto had summoned two shadow clones behind itachi and itachi simply threw 2 kuni without even looking. Is it becuz he can sense danger too???

Also the part were he dodged both bee's and naruto's attack at the same time. He cud hv dodged naruto's but how did he block killer bee who tried to hit him in the blind spot??? Is it becuz he can sense danger 2????????????????????


Explain please....

They could sense someones presence because they are elites just as being demonstrated by Itachi. The difference is that the "MARK" on Minato's kunai alerts him that's why he incorporated his mark to kushina's seal. Read Tobi's explanation.

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Yeah he did a real good job at speculating and being biased towards minato

its a good thing the more intelligent members can see this.

Were you able to make a good argument? Aren't you biased towards Itachi? Please know the term speculation my friend and if you can analyze, use it please. Not trying to offend you but the way you reason out, you look like a 3rd grader to me. Sorry, my honest opinion...:flaw:

How this fail thread got this many replies is beyond me.
Then again, troll/fail threads usually end up being hot anyway.

Just took my time to skim read the op and it reeks with failure.

You always do that when you can't come up with a good argument. Talking sh*t again??

Wow this stupid OP thinks Minatos kunai can sense amateretsu coming that appears in an instant. WOW!

You're the one who is stupid. Didn't I posted scan that amaterasu can be felt? Here it is again and read well.

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One person's opinion is not stupid, its their opinion and yes he didnt put all of itachi-san's tech into this thread and so did not properly represent Itachi, however im a ItaMina fanboy [no homo, just think both charas are epic] and in my opinion it would be pretty evenly matched, Itachi is a genius, however Minato is more skilled and has already formulated an intricate and tedious battle plan with multiple openings for improvisation, in addition you have to remember that Itachi had some unknown illness which made him weaker than normal, so even in his prime he would be at a disadvantage, however, Itachi, as we have seen does his best work against impossible odds. [namely murdering the uchiha clan]

Thanks but I did mention Itachi's tech in the first thread. This thread is the 2nd part and just for Minato alone as I have said on the 1st thread.

 

[ajpn920]

Why is this thread a waste of time?? its a legitament thread.
this is probably the best minato vs itachi thread i've ever seen. He has cleary shown to everyone how minato cud 1: get around all of itachi's attacks and 2: how he'd be able to attack itachi effectively.
this thread isnt a waste of time, to all off u who are saying this is ur saying it because there is no argument against this thread.
and another thing, ive read a ton of arguments on this saying "minato's ability to sense danger isnt unique". So what?? even if it isnt a unique ability he can still do it. that is the only part of this thread thts the least bit debatable and thts why all of u itachi fans keep going to it, while completely ignoring the rest of the thread

Thanks bro

good thread man

Thanks

I agree to what NikesOnMyFeet said. +rep

That isnt sensing;

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That isnt sensing. Many high level ninja' have shown the ability to very aware of their surroundings. Example, itachi was the only one to notice sasuke. Itachi with his back tired easily disposed of 2 naruto clones. Kakashi was able to suppress himself so much so that kakuzu wasnt able to notice him. All that is not sensing and neither is when he place his hand on the floor. You have no clue what sensors are

You really don't know what you're talking about.

Many high level ninja' have shown the ability to very aware of their surroundings

YOu compare this to Minato knowing where to teleport tbb to somewhere safe? If many high level ninja' have shown the ability to be aware of their surroundings then how come there is an "AMBUSH" in narutoverse. Do I need to remind you what happened to the 2nd Hokage before? Don't you think they are elites? How come traps existed? :sy:

 

[Revan]

@ajpn920
there are more than one situation where the mark is around and he doesnt react. he reacts when kakashi draws the kunai, and when he already knows that kushina is in danger.
to protect doesnt necessarily mean that he can feel danger, it can also mean that he can come to her when he knows that danger is on the way.
read part 4 of the last post i wrote to kellzfresh.

by the way i agree with the people that posted that the thread has a right to exist, but i didnt read the other threads before.