In-Depth study: Minato>Itachi

[palmer]

Seriously ts a waste of tym,2 talk,minato > itachi,day or night

 

[Flame Alchemist]

there is no "in-depth study" here.

it's just you, saying "minato is the best".
just like you've been doing in the past 4 months

 

[olumiday]

Minato > Hashirama > Madara > Itachi
simple!

 

[Nidaime Pupil]

Minato > Hashirama > Madara > Itachi
simple!

Despite posts like this..

How does Minato get INSIDE Susano'o? Really? He would have to have Itachi already marked (which he doesn't) or get a kunai through the Yata Mirror and inside Susano'o (which will never happen). But yeah these threads are the biggest waste of time ever all people do is say stuff like this guy.

 

[Thewargoeson]

Why is this thread a waste of time?? its a legitament thread.
this is probably the best minato vs itachi thread i've ever seen. He has cleary shown to everyone how minato cud 1: get around all of itachi's attacks and 2: how he'd be able to attack itachi effectively.
this thread isnt a waste of time, to all off u who are saying this is ur saying it because there is no argument against this thread.
and another thing, ive read a ton of arguments on this saying "minato's ability to sense danger isnt unique". So what?? even if it isnt a unique ability he can still do it. that is the only part of this thread thts the least bit debatable and thts why all of u itachi fans keep going to it, while completely ignoring the rest of the thread

 

[Minato fanboy]

Sasuke>Minato

hell no minato>sasuke minato>itachi everyone know that :scorps:

 

[NakedNinja]

good thread man

 

[PaperHERO]

I agree to what NikesOnMyFeet said. +rep

 

[Minator93]

Despite posts like this..

How does Minato get INSIDE Susano'o? Really? He would have to have Itachi already marked (which he doesn't) or get a kunai through the Yata Mirror and inside Susano'o (which will never happen). But yeah these threads are the biggest waste of time ever all people do is say stuff like this guy.

Read my earlier post

 

[squigles]

I do believe I explained this to you guys before, why these types of threads are pointless.

Let me reiterate with the following analogy:

Itachi would lose to Minato for the same reason Jet Li would lose to Bruce Lee: Age difference.

When Bruce Lee was at the height of his career, in 1973, he was 33 years old. He died that year. At that time, Jet Li, was 10 years old. So if they had fought, it would have been a 33 yr old man vs a 10 yr old kid.

In comparison, when Minato died, he was the fourth Hokage, a grown ass man. Itachi was staying at home with his new born baby brother, and he wasn't even 10 years old yet. If Minato and Itachi had fought, while Minato was still alive, then it would be a grown ass man fighting a 7 yr old kid.

What do you think would happen?


Now take that as your answer and SHUT THE **** UP WITH THESE STUPID THREADS.

 

[kellzfresh]

In my previous thread

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I’ve explained Itachi’s genjutsu and we found out that only Tsukuyomi can actually affect the mind but like other jutsu it also has a drawback. I will now explain Minato’s advantage and skills necessary to defeat a good genjutsu user like Itachi.

In any versus thread as long as Itachi is involved, majority of Itachi‘s fans would try to defend him with these techs: Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo. These are all MS techs.

Minato can sense the presence of danger. He displayed this trait by saving Kushina and Kakashi. Tobi even explained it to Kushina how Minato uses his mark to be able protect her always.

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With the two scans above, it's very clear that Minato can sense danger if the mark is present in any form. Whether it will be on a kunai or in a person's body. With this technique, can't he use it to save himself? He always had the mark so it's possible that he can use this tech to save himself from incoming danger.

AMATERASU: Minato can dodge it easily. A was able to dodge it during his fight with Sasuke. Some will say that the only way to avoid it is by watching the eyes of the caster. Is this true?

Nagato was able to determine that Itachi will use Amaterasu because of the pressure. Remember that Minato is also a sensor and like what i've mentioned earlier his "mark jutsu" alerts him.

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TSUKUYOMI: This technique can possibly turn the tide to Itachi's favor only if he can successfully trap Minato. As they always say, every jutsu has its weakness, Tsukuyomi also has its weakness. The user needs to activate MS to be able to use it and this technique is a close range tech. The scans below shows how Itachi activates his MS

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What's the common sign on the first 2 scans above? Itachi closes his eyes before activating MS. Can't Minato attack when Itachi activates his MS?

SUSANOO: This is Itachi's defense. Some fans always raise the question "how can Minato break Susanoo?" Do you think this is the right question? Does Minato needs to break it? The problem when using these MS techs is chakra consumption. Itachi can't activate this tech long enough to protect himself because it will drain his chakra fast.

The scans below shows Itachi retreating. In a single day, he uses 3 MS techs. The 1st one I believe was during his fight with Kakashi and the last two is when he tried to capture Naruto.

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Speed and FTG can counter amaterasu and tsukuyomi. Not to mention he can sense danger. Minato too is a tactical fighter like Itachi and everyone agrees except idiots. If Kakashi was able to make a clone in fighting Itachi, can't Minato do the same? To be a Hokage, one must know a thousand skills.

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Minato has a large chakra consumption and FTG uses little to no chakra at all that's why he can spam it like in the previous shinobi war

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He also spam his kunai with just one throw. If Itachi managed to deflect all, how many moves do you all think it will take him? If it will cost him an extra move then it's an advantage for Minato. Remember that Minato set things up in all of his fights we've seen. Setting his kunais means to scatter it in the battlefield. Even if Itachi managed to deflect all kunais, Minato's purpose is still in play (scattering kunais)

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Minato appears everywhere near his mark. He can appear at the front, back, or even above his target.

Minato appearing at the front of tobi. Minato hits him at the back so the mark was there. Take a good look at the rasengan. It looks like the mark was incorporated in his chakra.

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Minato appearing at the back after tagging the enemy in his foot.

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Minato appearing above of Tobi

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Space time barrier: Minato can use this to teleport all incoming attacks.

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Minato can also teleport objects even if he's not touching them like what he did here.

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Take a good look at scans above. Minato was on top of Bunta but he was able to teleport Kuruma and the blast to another location. It's very clear that he did not touch Kuruma to teleport him and this is definitely a FACT that we have to count.

So, what's in Itachi's arsenal besides genjutsu that can defeat Minato? Absolutely NONE!! All ninjutsu's will be directed back to him using the space time barrier. Itachi's arsenal will be limited to only genjutsu because he can't afford to engage in a Taijutsu. One mark from Minato then it's over. This is the reason why Itachi fans uses Tsukuyomi as the factor to defeat Minato but is this really easy to catch Minato?

The fact that Minato was known to be a shrewd person can nullify all assumptions made by Itachi fans that Minato will do recklessly in any versus thread. Minato can also summon frogs so it's unlikely that he can't summon ma and pa. He can use food cart destroyer as a diversion for his attacks.

He can seal a person's chakra like what he did to Kushina's chakra, Kurama's chakra and his chakra. Can't he do that to Itachi? He can seal Itachi's chakra to another object. He was able to seal Kurama's chakra so why can't he do the same to Itachi? Remember that Minato knows the Uzumaki special sealing techs.

Lastly, Minato can create a barrier. He was planning on creating a barrier to hold Kurama. A barrier that can hold Kuruma's power must be that strong.

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By the way, since he has a contract with the toads, he can summon the Gourd Toad which can use Toad Gourd Prison. This tech is used to capture and isolate a victim by dragging them into the toad's stomach. The toad's stomach is a cavernous chamber, which includes a lake of strong corrosive gastric acid that can dissolve anything that should happen to fall into it.

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So, how can Itachi counter Minato's techs? Genjutsu again??:scorps:

++rep for evidence. I forgot that pple know when itachi wants to use amaterazu by knowing the air pressure like zetsu.
This means pple will stop saying that if minato looks at the blood to dodge amaterazu, itachi will put minato in a genjutsu :flaw:
Minato doesnt need to look into itachi's eyes to know that amaterasu is coming :shrug:
Itachi fans should prove that the evidence is wrong, and explain how itachi beats minato if
1. minato doesnt look at his eyes as he is smarter than naruto and Guy
2. can space time itachi's attacks back to him
3. can appear some distance away from the kunai, which means he can appear inside susano just like how gaara's sand got inside the susanoo
4. can know when amaterazu is coming by feeling the air pressure just like zetsu did in the itachi vs sasuke fight.
5. Can dodge amaterazu because of fast reflexes and A doged it too.
6. Minato rarely fights hand to hand because he teleports behind pple for kill so catching him in a genjutsu by chance is out of the question cos the opponent wont see him coming
7. Can create a barrier to trap itachi inside, just as he did to the nine tails and just ftg out of it.

I'm not a fan of any, I just think minato was praised as one of the strongest hokages and i dont think itachi meets his level by hype or feats. Itachi fans should defend and prove how itachi beats minato and prove the evidence is wrong and stop saying "fail, fail, fail" :sy:

 

[Nidaime Pupil]

Read my earlier post

Most people have said that Itachi cannot even sustain Susano'o long enough to fight with it. This is just dumb and a little asinine. He can. To the people saying he'll just go behind him, we have seen Madara's Susano'o having two faces back and front it is not too far fetched to suggest Itachi's Susano'o could do the same he just never needed to. That would mean he is completely covered with Yata Mirror and then cannot be hit. Or since Itachi is smart he'll move away and never turn his back to a kunai.

And I saw your earlier post, I'm asking HOW. He cannot FTG THROUGH Yata Mirror and Susano'o that is just ridiculous just because he FTG's FEET away from a kunai doesn't mean he can travel INTO Susano'o just by getting near it.

It is these arguments that are 1. Annoying and 2. Give Minato fans the reputation they have

 

[itachii]

Not all the things that you listed are true! (In my opinion)
But at least your backing up your statements with some decent theories..
Anyway I think that it can go either way between them.

 

[fati]

Minato can teleport few meters arount the FTG kunai only in open areas.

Itachi dont need to use amaterasu direct on Minato he will use it in his kunais wich will make his FTG unusable

 

[Nidaime Pupil]

Minato can teleport few meters arount the FTG kunai only in open areas.

Itachi dont need to use amaterasu direct on Minato he will use it in his kunais wich will make his FTG unusable

HAHaha ^This.

 

[kellzfresh]

Minato can teleport few meters arount the FTG kunai only in open areas.

Itachi dont need to use amaterasu direct on Minato he will use it in his kunais wich will make his FTG unusable

Inside the susanoo is an open area, that is how gaara's sand got inside in the first place. How will itachi stand inside a place that is trapped? Susanoo is around itachi and not inside itachi. So minato can teleport behind itachi some meters away from his kunai as long as gaara's sand could get inside. :shrug:

 

[home]

Sasuke>Minato

carrot>you in terms of intelligence

 

[home]

but seriously guys cant we just say minato=itachi and end all these crppy and repetitive threads

 

[sasso1]

Minato appearing at the back after tagging the enemy in his foot.

 

[kellzfresh]

but seriously guys cant we just say minato=itachi and end all these crppy and repetitive threads

I was thinking that itachi was a little stronger or equal to minato before, but since i realized that pple know when itachi wants to use amaterazu by knowing the air pressure like zetsu and nagato. This means pple will stop saying that if minato looks at the blood to dodge amaterazu, itachi will put minato in a genjutsu. Minato now seems stronger to me after seeing facts from this thread. :shrug: