[Discussion] If whitebeard was in his prime in the marineford war.

[Punk Hazard]

Except that is the case.. We already have had this discussion before, where neither of us changed our opinions regarding the situation.

No it is not. Like I said, nothing indicates that.

 

[arv993]

Sooo how'd you get Shanks coming into stop the war confused with shanks came in for coby??

Are you kidding me dude?? The moment Marco looked somewhere else, a ****ing Vice- Admiral, made him useless by putting seastone cuffs on him.. his DF was negated, had Kizaru/Akainu/Aokiji/Mihawk and etc had gone to take his head at that time, they would've succeeded.. but no one did.. for god knows why. And no he isn't hyped on the level of the Yonko.

Kizaru went all out.. depsite him not receiving a single serious injury? and yea Akainu did, due to him facing the Old Man himself.

No not really.. Sengoku from what i recall did give the order to kill Ace.. Them killing Ace, in front of the world a hour earlier, won't make them lose face for the world. Idk where you're getting bullshit from about them losing face for excueting a criminal a hour early.. especially when Akainu slaughtered that mofo..

"Marines aren't gonna kill just for fun".. no clue how this has anything to do with killing the guy whose on excuetion a hour or couple minutes early.


So we're ignoring how Jozu got wrecked.. and how Marco was made useless the moment he looked somewhere else.. and we're also ignoring how Shanks didn't come there to help the Whitebeard pirates fight, but to stop the fight. There was no alliance between Shanks/WB, so don't go making crap up bro.

Except this time, when they got called all of them had to show up. ;]. They are as obediant as Garp was...At the end of the day, they are World Government's employees.. nothing less , nothing more. An employee is not a Servent btw.. but somebody who works for the said organization or person.

Mihawk won't leave if Shanks shows up and joins Whitebeard.. He left because Shanks literally stated that they need to stop the War.. It was going to be Shanks VS (anyone who still wanted to fight, this includes the Whitebeard's pirates). And you're also ignoring, Blackbeard pirates showing up.

And notice how Shanks showed up after Ace and Whitebeard's deaths.. and not before.



You mean look how it took a hour or so, to kill Whitebeard?? They can literally repeat the Squardo incident.

WHERE ARE YOU GETTING SHANKS WAS THERE TO SAVE ACE??!! HOLY SHIT. HE SAID THE SAME SHIT COBY SAID THAT CONTINUING THE WAR WAS POINTLESS.. and that he wouldn't have the bodies of Whtiebeard and Ace be exposed to the world like that.. thats literally it. He never took Sides..

You just claimed they'd win..

You don't even know how the Shiki vs Garp/Sengoku fight went down.. so stop dickriding it... and actually use stuff you know about.

"two washed up albeit strong people".. my ass he can. Stop riding Whitebeard that hard dude.



Stuff you made up:

- Marines have to stick to the time limit = wrong
- Shanks would assist Whitebeard = wrong (they aren't allies, and neither was shanks there to help the WB pirates).
- Mihawk would automatically leave like a *****, once Shanks shows up = wrong (he only stopped just like Shanks/Coby wanted the war to stop, it was pointless continuing it).
- Sengoku and Garp are Washed up = Wrong, they are marine soldiers meaning they train and keep up with their stuff, they wouldn't have a washed up guy who was weaker than the youngsters continue being the Fleet Admiral.
- Shiki taking on Garp/Sengoku in 2 vs 1 , and making the fight last near a day (or was it half a day), is the same as Whitebeard taking on the two in the war = Wrong.




I was referring to their primes. ;p

lol at your whole post

They dont kill them randomly why would he waste time looking for replacements if he can execute ace. its really simple dude, marines especially sengoku wouldnt kill ace as soon as Wb stepped into the war. Again why did he get replacements, he was following a standard procedure dude you must really bad at story comprehension if you think he would kill him for no reason he follows the procdeure until ace escaped afterward everything was fair game including akainu killing him.

They are washed up compared to a prime WB, are u serious 65 to 70 year olds are as strong as their prime selves you are on some next level shit if you believe that, rayleigh got weaker, WB got weaker and they would too. Sengoku couldnt one shot luffy and couldnt beat a new GG fruit BB. yea they are on the same level... pls think b4 you talk.

Oh yea he couldnt hurt marco whatsoever, any DF user gets negated by a seastone or you forget that part about the story. A VA got him as kizaru was useless against him. he couldnt hurt him when he looked away thats how much defensively marco is a beast. He also got hype from the gorosei as BB potential stopper. oh yea he must suck... makes a lot of sense dude.

Jozu + another commander stalls kuzan and WB prime beats any admiral with not too much damage taken at all.

Shanks came to stop a war, so you think he's gonna side with marines, plz give me what you're smoking, he was gonna fight the marines, I'm not making it up now its what happened in the manga unless you need a scan of shanks challenging them.

no one yonko can beat marines I said theyd save ace and MF would be in shambles cuz of WB's DC. If shanks join yea theyd win.

they'r employees dude plz marines dont control schibukai like that only 2 of them show to summon, Mihawk chos to sit out once shanks challenged them. Doffy made marines and WG incompetent in his country and threatened sengoku etc. schibukai are not marines they are their on power.

yea prime sengoku and garp took a while to put down shiki, thats a fact, wtf do u think they were taking it easy as he piled on bodies and destroyed half of marineford. this is prime WB against two old dudes, garp is still a grave threat but sengoku cant even one shot luffy and was doing bad against new GG fruit BB. WB prime can easily hold his own. Wb also had many ppl who stalled the WG such as the impel down prisoners, crocdile, jimbei, so saving ace is easier and he can hold his own and can help commanders.

if the objective is save ace yea they can do it, especially if luffy can get through all the ppl to ace. wb would also have conq haki making fodder short work. they cant kill WB in an hour plz this is prime they took hours to kill a sick old wb.

akainu hit WB when he had a heart attack, he is inferior to a fresh old WB what makes you think h would last long against a prime WB. akainu isnt a prime garp level guy neither is any admirals, they are quite inferior to a prime WB. and commanders dont get distracted so they can stall for a long time making ace easier to get.

dickriding? yea thats you and admirals, admirals are below yonko who are below a prime WB oh i forgot you believe fujitora= shanks or he can take on kaido the strongest creature. oda gives better hype to all yonko and gave the ultimate hype and to WB/prime garp/roger. old WB injured and sick > akainu yea hes gonna do a lot of harm to a prime WB.