if sasuke's susanoo is featless

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Lol at people saying Sasuke wasn't inside the cloak when he made PS. It's pretty obvious he's within Naruto's BM, then powers up the susanoo. Sasuke himself does not require a cloak. As long as his chakra is in contact with Naruto's he's drawing chakra out of it. It's similar to when Naruto handed chakra out with chakra arms. Everyone that touched it received his boost. Similar to when Naruto touched Kakashi, and Kakashi received a chakra boost. Though, he showed no signs of a chakra cloak.

Not even to mention Juugo wasn't there, so claiming he wasn't inside the cloak and receiving benefits from it is pretty retarded. If Sasuke was not receiving benefits from it, their attack would have been futile, because the susanoo sword would not have pierced Obito. However, Naruto's chakra contained senjutsu, and Sasuke was inside the senjutsu. Sasuke does not have senjutsu, and Juugo was not in the cloak(Nor were the marking on his susanoo); so you draw the conclusions here. Fapboys are going to hate. Naruto and Sasuke are dead even right now. Everyone arguing who is stronger is mere opinion and can only be taken with a grain of salt because Kishi's obvious standpoint is even. You guys can bicker all you want, however, they're even.

 

[TrollingSage]

A TBB from a 100% Kurama is small now?Because Madara's Susanoo took one head on and it did'nt even scratch it.

It's puny compared to the ones BM Naruto makes. Also Kurama's chakra was being suppressed when he made that tbb.
If most likely wasnt the biggest tbb he can make.

 

[Bieber]

Sasuke Perfect Susano'o tanks bijūdama effortlessly, just like Madara's did.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

It's puny compared to the ones BM Naruto makes. Also Kurama's chakra was being suppressed when he made that tbb.
If most likely wasnt the biggest tbb he can make.

But the ones BM Naruto makes pale in comparison to the ones made by 100% Kurama.Size isn't everything and the power between BM Naruto's bijuudamas and those of 100% Kurama is vastly different.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sasuke was compared to madara too many times now. now he has same kind of power - PS.
Sasuke's susanoo being smaller or bigger by small margin doesnt change much, they have comparable defensive capability.

Only haters will deny that.

 

[KidGamer65]

It's puny compared to the ones BM Naruto makes. Also Kurama's chakra was being suppressed when he made that tbb.
If most likely wasnt the biggest tbb he can make.

1. His chakra wasn't being suppressed, that only happens when Mokuryu actually bites the target.

2. Clearly not factoring in the size difference between Full Kurama and BM Naruto, which is massive.

 

[Disquiet]

Logically speaking, Sasuke's susano'o can tank a TBB.

 

[AlphaScythian]

This is absurdity. Sasuke only knew of what occurred between Madara and Hashirama because Hashirama explained the event. Sasuke could not possibly have known the strength of the PS armour, nor the sheer size. Your points are laughable at best.

Look at the difference in size

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There is no comparison between what Sasuke covered and what Madara covered with the PS. Sasuke was simply saying that the Kyuubi being covered is a deja vu, no where did he say this is the exact power madara used or of that sort. Manga>you as well.

Your argument is absurd.
Naruto doesnt use kurama in full flesh/body mode but chakra projection sort of susanoo. It is projected to the size of its former self. Or do you think that kurama is 7 times bigger then any other biju for no reason? Cuz its not what we have seen in all the biju comparison panels.

Case is closed. Sasuke's PS is comparable in size to madara's.

 

[KidGamer65]

Your argument is absurd.
Naruto doesnt use kurama in full flesh/body mode but chakra projection sort of susanoo. It is projected to the size of its former self. Or do you think that kurama is 7 times bigger then any other biju for no reason? Cuz its not what we have seen in all the biju comparison panels.

Case is closed. Sasuke's PS is comparable in size to madara's.

Dafuq? No its not.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Dafuq? No its not.

Yes is it is.
Why would kurama be 7x bigger when all other bijus are roughly the same in size? When even since babies they were of same sizes.
Why does susanoo gem in both cases have similar proportions to the caster body and not the difference of x7?

As i said naruto uses kurama chakra projection and its a freaking fact. Kurama doesnt manifest its body, otherwise it would be 7 times smaller.

Did it ever croos your mind that shit grow exponentially some times and not just simply multiplication/division by 2? (im referring to the "half" kurama, in case you dont get it)
One scan and bad analysis makes all naruto fans go tard and turn the blind eye for all the other facts?

Answer me all that b4 simply going into denial.

 

[Seventh Sama]

I really wouldn't say that sasuke could "tank" a tbb with susanoo, maybe Block it with his sword or redirect it somewhere before it explodes.

 

[xxSAGExx]

yeah stay in denial. its clear naruto's chakra is having no effect on sasuke here

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sasuke shows no cloak or sign of getting a boost. to to mention he would be like "what is the power flowing through me" just like every other character to get a foreign power up ever did

That's not really true going by what has been shown in the manga, everyone thought Naruto's chakra was gone but when Naruto and Minato combined Ying-yin chakara and gave everyone Sakura said it's size only got smaller as shown here

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. Naruto gave chakra to Sasuke and he never said that

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. Sasuke isn't going to use all of Kurama's chakra when that chakra is more than Sasuke's base chakra, that would mean Sasuke should be out of chakra if he did. So more things point to Sasuke still having some of Kurama's chakra or at least before they beat Obito since both him and Naruto were exhausted.

And before you even say "More chakra that Sasuke? You're making that up" I'll use simply logic of the manga. Kakashi said Kurama chakra made Kamui "at least" 3x stronger then when Naruto gave the Alliance chakra Kakashi said it was even more stronger so that's 4x-6x stronger, then when Naruto and Minato gave everyone chakra they said it was even more stronger so that's even higher power up

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why is it generally believed that tbb's would destroy sasuke's susanoo? because sasuke's susanoo is "featless", wouldn't that mean we don't know its capabilities? now if we don't know its capabilities it is illogical to suggest that tbb's would break sasuke's susanoo until we have further proof.

basically its illogical to jump to the conculsion that sasuke's susanoo wouldn't be sufficient considering its main draw is defense

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conclusion: its dumb to think naruto would easily break susanoo and kishi would never allow the "two halves of the same coin" to be so unbalanced.

Because Madara even said the PS power was comparable to the Bijuu, for it to be comparable to them all would mean it has to be on their level where even the lower tailed beasts can match it's power. Yang Kurama tbb matched 5 fully powered Bijuus tbb, that blast is more than enough to destroy Susanoo. Bijuus are the Ultimate chakra, the highest power in NV aside from the Sage. An Uchiha not going to have more power than them, maybe the smaller level ones but not the higher levels ones. That's why they use genjutsus to control them for their own power as Madara had even though he has PS.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yes is it is.
Why would kurama be 7x bigger when all other bijus are roughly the same in size? When even since babies they were of same sizes.
Why does susanoo gem in both cases have similar proportions to the caster body and not the difference of x7?

This is irrelevant. Them being the same size when they were babies doesn't mean they'll be the same when they are older. Shit logic.

The size of Susanoo's gem doesn't mean that full Kurama and BM Naruto are the same size, cause they clearly aren't.

As i said naruto uses kurama chakra projection and its a freaking fact. Kurama doesnt manifest its body, otherwise it would be 7 times smaller.

It using chakra to form the Kurama Avatar is fact, it being at its original size isn't a fact, its idiocy. 50% chakra Kurama is going to make enough chakra to create a replica of the original Full Kurama? Why in the hell would BM Naruto using Half Kurama's power be as big as Full Kurama.

Did it ever croos your mind that shit grow exponentially some times and not just simply multiplication/division by 2? (im referring to the "half" kurama, in case you dont get it)

Don't even know what any of this has to do with anything, at all.

One scan and bad analysis makes all naruto fans go tard and turn the blind eye for all the other facts?

1. There are no other facts, they are just terrible assumptions from you.

2. Naruto fan? lmao, I've been defending Sasuke this whole entire thread yet I'm a Naruto fan? lmao, log off.

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The sheer fact that Mokuryu was able to wrap around BM Naruto more times than it did Full Kurama is proof that Full Kurama is bigger. You have no facts, Full Kurama is bigger than 50% BM Naruto, Half Kurama, and the rest of the Bijuu.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

yeah stay in denial. its clear naruto's chakra is having no effect on sasuke here

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sasuke shows no cloak or sign of getting a boost. to to mention he would be like "what is the power flowing through me" just like every other character to get a foreign power up ever did

Didn't the slug already say even if the cloak isn't there the chakra is still there?
Kakashi didn't have a cloak yet his chakra level was at least multiplied by 3. Same could be said for sasuke.

 

[xxSAGExx]

This is irrelevant. Them being the same size when they were babies doesn't mean they'll be the same when they are older. Shit logic.

The size of Susanoo's gem doesn't mean that full Kurama and BM Naruto are the same size, cause they clearly aren't.


It using chakra to form the Kurama Avatar is fact, it being at its original size isn't a fact, its idiocy. 50% chakra Kurama is going to make enough chakra to create a replica of the original Full Kurama? Why in the hell would BM Naruto using Half Kurama's power be as big as Full Kurama.



Don't even know what any of this has to do with anything, at all.



1. There are no other facts, they are just terrible assumptions from you.

2. Naruto fan? lmao, I've been defending Sasuke this whole entire thread yet I'm a Naruto fan? lmao, log off.

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The sheer fact that Mokuryu was able to wrap around BM Naruto more times than it did Full Kurama is proof that Full Kurama is bigger. You have no facts, Full Kurama is bigger than 50% BM Naruto, Half Kurama, and the rest of the Bijuu.

This is about Kurama's sizes? We know BM Kurama isn't 7x smaller than full Kurama, did someone real say that? Kurama did turn half his size when his Yin chakra was seal but we do not know if Kurama replenished that chakra with Yang chakra or not. But all Bijuu should be about the same sizes and only the tails making them different in size. If they were the same sizes as babies then they should be when grown, it's not like they have different parents and Kurama got a growth gene when the others didn't.

Kurama does have far greater Chakra, near limitless. So his chakra could make him bigger as he grew or he could be the same size. As for the Mokuryu, you're using 2 different users for them tho, Madara with Hashirama's cells to base Hashirama, hard to say if the jutsus were the same size or if Madara's was larger due to being a path of the Sage. many mysteries.

 

[slimreaper]

Didn't the slug already say even if the cloak isn't there the chakra is still there?
Kakashi didn't have a cloak yet his chakra level was at least multiplied by 3. Same could be said for sasuke.

kakashi was handed that chakra directly from kurama, not naruto ie. no cloak

 

[KingHashirama]

A complete Susanoo can tank a TBB. Fans simply want to deny it.

 

[xxSAGExx]

A complete Susanoo can tank a TBB. Fans simply want to deny it.

I agreed that It can tank a rapidly fired tbb but not a charged tbb like what BM Naruto did that matched 5 Bijuus. Bijuus are the Ultimate chakra so if they charge their tbb then they could break Susanoo. Susanoo's power doesn't chakra unles it chakra levels but Bijuus can keep adding more power to their attack until they're out of chakra. Is a reason why Madara needed a Bijuu even tho he had PS.

Hashirama had Bijuus 2-8 yet didn't used them (He was already Hokage when he fought Madara and after beating Madara he gained Kurama and gave Bijuus 2-8 to the other villages while Suna had the 1 tails).

 

[KingHashirama]

I agreed that It can tank a rapidly fired tbb but not a charged tbb like what BM Naruto did that matched 5 Bijuus. Bijuus are the Ultimate chakra so if they charge their tbb then they could break Susanoo. Susanoo's power doesn't chakra unles it chakra levels but Bijuus can keep adding more power to their attack until they're out of chakra. Is a reason why Madara needed a Bijuu even tho he had PS.

Hashirama had Bijuus 2-8 yet didn't used them (He was already Hokage when he fought Madara and after beating Madara he gained Kurama and gave Bijuus 2-8 to the other villages while Suna had the 1 tails).

Susanoo is a better tank than Kurama. Hence why you see Madara blocking 9-tails own tailed beast bomb with the Complete Susanoo.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

kakashi was handed that chakra directly from kurama, not naruto ie. no cloak

how much chakra determines if there is a cloak or not. If there's not enough chakra to form the cloak the cloak wont be there. Katsuyu already said this and its proven when kakashi didnt have to be tapped when naruto was handing out cloaks. His cloak just naturally formed.