If Naruto didn't have Kurama

Naruto without Kurama is

  • As strong as he is now vs Obito/Madara

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  • Not as strong but still amongs the strongest Ninjas !

    Votes: 136 63.8%
  • Fodder

    Votes: 39 18.3%

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TheRedAndGreenBeast

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Sasuke would not have Sharingan at an early age and Itachi would still be at Konoha.
 

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I thought this thread was gonna go a whole different direction but you made the right call so kudos
 

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naruto without kurama
sasuke without legs
itachi without arms
madara without eyes
kakashi without hairs.....

people just stop that sh!t.
 
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I believe you're presuming that all the events in Naruto so far would be the same, just without the Kyuubi. How I saw it, and interpreted the thread was, if Naruto didn't have the nine tails that means that his parents would still be alive, which means that Naruto's mom would still have the nine tails in her, which means that Tobi never attacked the village during her childbirth. From that point, Naruto would grow up being the SON OF THE 4TH HOKAGE, and treated as such by the village; kind of like the 3rd's grandson. Of course, if this happened then we wouldn't have the manga/anime Naruto, but that's what makes speculation so much fun and interesting.

Hope this helped. xD
 

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Naruto would still be one of the best ninja's, no doubt about it. But with Kurama he will become the strongest from all time soon!
 
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You still focused on the points which Naruto faced when Kurama is a part of him. Those things won't happen in the first place (say Sage mode) because Pa will never take Naruto to Myoboku to learn sage mode in the first place since there won't be any connection between Jiraiya and Naruto.

I disagree here. Jiraiya happen to be Minato's teacher and Naruto's godfather, who even inspired Minato to name his son, Naruto, from his very first novel. So in regards to Sage mode, Naruto does have a connection to Jiraiya. Whether the chances of needing to learn SM in this Naruto-without-Kurama alternative narutoverse is a matter left to speculations.
 

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Kurama ran out of chakra in 611 and had to regather. Naruto stills used Sage Mode and Rasenshurikens in 614. Your statement is pretty much invalid.

and? more like your statement is invalid. You know how long it takes to learn sage mode? The only reason why Naruto learned it so fast cause he has the kyubi in him, if he didn't he would not have learned SM
 

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For some reason people tend to forget that the only reason why Naruto Learned Sage Mode is because.
1-Jiraya Died and left a Code entrusting it to Naruto!
2-Fugaku would had never trained Naruto.
3-Minato is alive so he will still be in Everyone's minds even in Jiraya's '''Minato is the child of the prophecy'''.
4-Maybe Jiraya would have never taken naruto in his travels. (but even when he did, jiraya never talked about it or thought about SAGE MODE with Naruto).

Naruto might have Shadow Clone Flying Thunder Broken which is a :D more imba Broken version of the FTG.
-Sealing jutsus from his mother
-Naruto might have toad contract but i remember he always used kyuby chakra for that.
-better chakra control
-more skilled and tactical than what he is, since he wont be depandable of kyuby saving his Ass!.
 

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without kurama, naruto would've never met jiraiya, so i figure naruto would be weaker but has more ninjutsu from his father and mother.

Yeah.... He definitely wouldn't have met his GODFATHER. Nope, impossible, so unlikely, it's not like Naruto got his name from one of Jiraya's book or anything, so he isn't involved in his life at all...
 

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and? more like your statement is invalid. You know how long it takes to learn sage mode? The only reason why Naruto learned it so fast cause he has the kyubi in him, if he didn't he would not have learned SM

He helped Naruto learn Sage Mode by rejecting him to fuse with Ma and Pa during his training. Jiraiya learn Sage Mode without a tailed beast, and Naruto is considered by Kakashi to have high chakra reserves even with Yamato suppressing Kurama's chakra.
There was no confirmation that Kurama was the only reason Naruto can learn Sage Mode. You need a large amount of chakra like Naruto without external sources like a Tailed Beast. That's because Naruto's Natural Chakra goes directly into his own reserves to balance out the Spiritual and Physical energy and Natural energy is much greater than both of them. A Tailed Beast already consists of Natural Chakra, yet Naruto did not know how to use it before the training.
 

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It's hard to say really :/ Given if he didn't have Kurama he probably would have not been through half the things he currently has, and might not have been taught a lot of what he already knows...can only speculate

my thoughts exactly. good input.
 

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Naruto without Kurama would be a Fuinjutsu Specialist, Toad Sage with FTG. Not to mention battle strategy skills Minato would teach....Or he'll hang around with Choji for the first 16 years of his life while trying to grow butterfly wings. (+Fuinjutsu,FTG&StrategySkill) (-Biju Mode) Eigther or,still strong.
 

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He would not have learned SM if his parents were still alive.

How does that make any since at all minato knows the toad summon and knows jiraia if he where still alive naruto would have been the pupal of the fourth hokage from birth and would have probably learned FTP by now and met j-man earlier and masters sage mode earlier and you forget that maintaining a tailed beast locked inside takes away chakra which is why only strong ninja can hold tailed beast inside them so naruto a chakra levels would also be higher than they currantly are and he would have better chakra control due to the fact that kuramas chakra isn't mixing with his own so the rasengan would be easear but its true he still wouldn't be at the level he is at with kurama
 

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Even if he didn't have Kurama....him not having Kurama meant Minato and Kushina lived which means that Naruto would still be a boss
 
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