If Naruto didn't have Kurama

[Xlad]

I laughed when I read "Naruto is a gifted failure".
Back to work, If Naruto didn't have Kurama then
1] The series would no longer be called as NARUTO
2] Akatsuki wonn't be chasing him.
3] He won't be focused too much.
4] He would have been a smart a**, the way Sasuke was called in the academy class famous among the girls.
5] Sakura or Hinata would have been his date from the start.
6] No rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke, because Naruto would act with Sasuke the same away Sakura reacted to Sasuke (about not having parents and stuff) during their team formation.
7] The group would be then like Kakashi (Naruto), Obito (Sasuke) and Rin (Sakura)

If there's anything, just add in it.

Actually, you have a point. I used the manga page and that page could interpreted in several ways. There were some fanfics that depicts Naruto almost like you say. I actually think the story should stay as it is, considering the relationship change bt Naruto and Kurama. I honestly thought that was one of best things Kishi did.

 

[MarkPaul]

That would also mean no Naruto for us to watch.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Wait, how wouldn't have Kushina and Minato been dead? How else were they going to get rid of the Kyuubi? Minato was low on chakra reserves and Kushina... self explanatory.

If Naruto didn't have the Kyuubi, he would have already been dead from their first mission protecting Tazuna due to the poison.

Kushina Stated there were other sealing jutsus Minato could have used but Minato was planning on sealing half of Kurama's chakra into Naruto and that required the Death Repear seal not to mention Kushina was going to seal the fox inside herself so it would die with her and later be revived (Kurama). Minato didn't want the balance of power to shift or allow the nine tails to be revived without a Jinchuriki. Remeber they placed a barrier aound so Kurama couldn't escape while Minato made his preparations but if he wasn't seali the nine tails in Naruto then he would have left Kushina and Naruto in the safe house and fought Kurama which would allow Hiruzen to join in. Hiruzen knew Death Repear seal and could have done the same as Minato and seal Kurama in Minato ~Shrugs~ Possible outcome? yes. either way Naruto would have been trained my Minato and his Godfather Jiriaya and his student Kakashi.

P.S. Death Repear seal is a S rank jutsu so he had enough chakra for that plus he used 2 4 trigram seals on naruto so he still had chakra jutsu not that much. And Hiruzen was right there so he would have intervene.

Obviously if I am asking a question pertaining to a statement that was made.



Excuse me, that is a fault on my end. But I'd wager he would have been dead against Neji during the Chuunin Exams.

Doubt it, Naruto wouldn't be the same. He would have a different set of jutsus taught by his dad, godfather and sensei. Every training Naruto had was all to help him better his chakra control and all of his jutsus reflect that. Minato would pass on sealing jutsus which would be something from the late Kushina to her son. Jiriaya could teach him shadow clone, his hair jutsus, and help him with his element (he taught Nagato, Yahiko and Konan theirs). Plus his taijutsu would be better also from the same ppl i mentioned before teaching him.

Naruto would at least have, Rasengan (Dad created it), Summoning jutsu (Dad and Godfather has), Various sealing jutsus, ftg (maybe, might be after Chunin exam), good chakra control, better than he had taijutsu, have way better speed and maybe Shadow clone (Jiriaya and Kakashi know it) and maybe Jiriaya hair jutsus that shoots needles or grabs enemy or covers him as a shield.

 

[Xlad]

Yes but you failed to realize that the Kyuubi and Obito still attacked Konoha. After fighting Tobi, Minato was at the end of his chakra pool, and whether or not he sealed the Kyuubi into Naruto, he would still be dead. Unless we're omitting this scenario in which I glance over and once again that would be a fault of my own in which I'd have to excuse.



But the topic poster didn't state all of this, just if the Kyuubi wasn't sealed within Naruto. Now if we altered the timeline so that the Kyuubi and Tobi doesn't attack altogether, then my answer would probably change.

On second thought, no it wouldn't have changed. Naruto has been alive for how many years now? And he knows a total of like 4 ninjutsus: Rasengan (variants), Kage Bunshin (variants), Henge no jutsu, and Kuchiyose no jutsu (there is Oiroke, but...). Kuchiyose, he almost never uses, so eliminate that and we have 3. Half, if not more, of the Rasengan variants, he can use because of the Kyuubi, so that also severs the list. He didn't even become really tactical with Kage Bunshins until Kakashi told him about its use.

My point is, he has been alive for so long and hasn't learned any jutsus really, and his fighting style took forever to become adequate (and it is still kind of crappy now). So why would I believe that had the Kyuubi not been festered within him, things would be different. Yeah, I think he still would have been dead from his bout with Neji, but that's just my opinion.

Wow, from the look of your bolder words, I don't what I did to piss you off. But my two cents, is that Naruto took forever to learn shit due to his stubbornness from no parental guidance. For example, he defied Iruka's advice when Iruka told him to use the leaf chakra concentration. When he took his sensei's advice during the Rasengan training, things actually starts to improve.

About the Rasengan Variants, only three variants came out from Kurama's chakra. He still has some jutsus up his sleeves, man.

 

[Kikki]

Without his will to never give up, which makes him so strong actually, he wouldn't use Kurama's chakra. Yeah, he might just die, running into a wall and Kurama wouldn't keep him from doing so, but he'd still be great. There would have been different ways to make him strong.

 

[Xlad]

Maybe this image is showing the life of Naruto in his movie Road to Ninja.

That was before Road to Ninja was created. This page was depicted in Chapter 503, at that time, there weren't any hints about the movie.

 

[Zato]

He would be strong but he won't be able to spam RS all the time like hes doing now. He would have to be more versatile. That is one thing I can't stand about Naruto. Everything with him is just spamming the same abilities over and over. I guess him and Obito are really alike just on opposite sides of the fence.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

He would still be really strong. Even without the kyuubi Naruto still has a very high amount of chakra. Not only that, but he would still be able to use SM which is very powerful.

 

[-ahhimane-]

That was before Road to Ninja was created. This page was depicted in Chapter 503, at that time, there weren't any hints about the movie.

That can be true that the Movie was not created that time but the fact is no one makes a movie directly without knowing the whole story behind it. We got to know that Kishi provided the story for the movie, then its obvious the planning for the movie had begun long back. Kishi gives the hint in such a manner that won't be believable to us.

 

[Xlad]

He would be strong but he won't be able to spam RS all the time like hes doing now. He would have to be more versatile. That is one thing I can't stand about Naruto. Everything with him is just spamming the same abilities over and over. I guess him and Obito are really alike just on opposite sides of the fence.

He increased the amount of RS. He threw them in Sage Mode without Kurama because you remember he needed to regather his chakra. I guess it has to with Kishi depicted Naruto as someone who makes the most out of what he has. Rasenshuriken is an exclusive technique that can only be done by him.

 

[Xlad]

That can be true that the Movie was not created that time but the fact is no one makes a movie directly without knowing the whole story behind it. We got to know that Kishi provided the story for the movie, then its obvious the planning for the movie had begun long back. Kishi gives the hint in such a manner that won't be believable to us.

I guess. But hey, I think that was the point of Road to Ninja, don't you think?

 

[Chef Boy RD]

Wow, from the look of your bolder words, I don't what I did to piss you off. But my two cents, is that Naruto took forever to learn shit due to his stubbornness from no parental guidance. For example, he defied Iruka's advice when Iruka told him to use the leaf chakra concentration. When he took his sensei's advice during the Rasengan training, things actually starts to improve.

About the Rasengan Variants, only three variants came out from Kurama's chakra. He still has some jutsus up his sleeves, man.

Excuse me, I didn't mean any anger or anything by bolding the text, I just wanted to place emphasis on those words as I thought it would better help explain my stance. Trust me, you did nothing to get me pissed off and even if you had tried to, I still wouldn't be pissed off. So let me apologize and in the future, I'll be more careful with how I type.

 

[Xlad]

Excuse me, I didn't mean any anger or anything by bolding the text, I just wanted to place emphasis on those words as I thought it would better help explain my stance. Trust me, you did nothing to get me pissed off and even if you had tried to, I still wouldn't be pissed off. So let me apologize and in the future, I'll be more careful with how I type.

Oh, well then I'm really sorry to assume this kind of shit.
I shouldn't have done that. I remember someone did something like that to me. So you don't have to be sorry.

 

[Xlad]

Excuse me, I didn't mean any anger or anything by bolding the text, I just wanted to place emphasis on those words as I thought it would better help explain my stance. Trust me, you did nothing to get me pissed off and even if you had tried to, I still wouldn't be pissed off. So let me apologize and in the future, I'll be more careful with how I type.

Oh, well then I'm really sorry to assume this kind of shit.
I shouldn't have done that. I remember someone did something like that to me. So you don't have to be sorry.

 

[Xlad]

Sorry for double posting.

 

[-ahhimane-]

I guess. But hey, I think that was the point of Road to Ninja, don't you think?

that's true.
Also the Shippuden movie Inheritors of Will of Fire, also hinted us many things but we never believed it. (don't know whether its story was also provided by Kishi or not)
Kakashi talking about Obito more than usual. (In the series Obito turns out to be the masked man)
The Fourth Shinobi World War declaration on 5 great nations that too started by one of the comrades of Konoha shinobis that is Hiruko (Tobi/Obito declared war on the 5 nations)
I guess no sign of Sasuke is also one of the point. (Sasuke is not yet shown in the manga as Orochimaru says he's not interested in the war)
Capturing the Kekkei Genkai users for ruling the world (Capturing Bijuus for Infinite Tsukuyomi plan)
Hiruko dies (Maybe Obito will die too)

 

[narmeiter]

Actually, Team Minato was a catalyst to everything that happened now. That's the whole point of Kakashi Gaiden. If they hadn't existed, shit changes. Read chapter 500-505, Kishi is not waste his time portraying that. The point is Naruto would still be considered a skilled Shinobi, with or without Kurama. But kishi didn't just pull this out of his ass, he wrote that way.

yes . Its kishi's wish that matters.

 

[Xlad]

that's true.
Also the Shippuden movie Inheritors of Will of Fire, also hinted us many things but we never believed it. (don't know whether its story was also provided by Kishi or not)
Kakashi talking about Obito more than usual. (In the series Obito turns out to be the masked man)
The Fourth Shinobi World War declaration on 5 great nations that too started by one of the comrades of Konoha shinobis that is Hiruko (Tobi/Obito declared war on the 5 nations)
I guess no sign of Sasuke is also one of the point. (Sasuke is not yet shown in the manga as Orochimaru says he's not interested in the war)
Capturing the Kekkei Genkai users for ruling the world (Capturing Bijuus for Infinite Tsukuyomi plan)
Hiruko dies (Maybe Obito will die too)

Yeah, there were a lot of hints of what would happen. Did you also that besides Naruto, Obito also says "Don't Underestimate Me?"
He said this when he found Team Takashi in the forest and when he erected a fire barrier on Gedo Mazo. I thought that was one of the most overlooked details about Tobi being Obito.

 

[-ahhimane-]

Yeah, there were a lot of hints of what would happen. Did you also that besides Naruto, Obito also says "Don't Underestimate Me?"
He said this when he found Team Takashi in the forest and when he erected a fire barrier on Gedo Mazo. I thought that was one of the most overlooked details about Tobi being Obito.

true!!

 

[Klad]

Minato wouldn't die and Minato would've trained him.