The title pretty much says it all. People have been trying to put the timeline together, but no one seems to focus on chapter 510, a very important piece of evidence.
In this chapter, Tobi says outright that he (or Uchiha Madara) was/ is the second sage of the six paths and that Nagato was the third:
The point of this thread is that what Tobi told Konan and what he said to a dead Nagato must be the truth, at least the truth in regard to the real Madara. Kishi established a scenario in the manga where we were given direct facts about Madara.
But however you analyze it, if Madara was in fact the 2nd SO6P and Nagato was the third, there is no way Madara actually knew Obito.
This is assuming Madara was being truthful when he said he unlocked the rinnegan shortly before dieing, also a scenario where Madara has no reason to lie:
So if Madara was the 2nd sage, that means he unlocked Rinnegan before Nagato did. In fact, that implies that he ended up giving Nagato his own Rinnegan, hence Tobi saying he gave the Rinnegan to Nagato. But if this were true, than Madara would have died long before Obito's time, meaning there is no possible way he could have ever met him.
In conclusion, for all this to be true, either Madara died twice (meaning he was revived once and met Obito before dieing again) or Kishi has made a pretty substantial blunder. If Kishi did make a mistake, than it can only be covered up by assuming either Tobi or Madara lied about Madara in a situation were there was no risk to them telling the truth.
Opinions? Comments? Rage?
In this chapter, Tobi says outright that he (or Uchiha Madara) was/ is the second sage of the six paths and that Nagato was the third:
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The point of this thread is that what Tobi told Konan and what he said to a dead Nagato must be the truth, at least the truth in regard to the real Madara. Kishi established a scenario in the manga where we were given direct facts about Madara.
But however you analyze it, if Madara was in fact the 2nd SO6P and Nagato was the third, there is no way Madara actually knew Obito.
This is assuming Madara was being truthful when he said he unlocked the rinnegan shortly before dieing, also a scenario where Madara has no reason to lie:
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So if Madara was the 2nd sage, that means he unlocked Rinnegan before Nagato did. In fact, that implies that he ended up giving Nagato his own Rinnegan, hence Tobi saying he gave the Rinnegan to Nagato. But if this were true, than Madara would have died long before Obito's time, meaning there is no possible way he could have ever met him.
In conclusion, for all this to be true, either Madara died twice (meaning he was revived once and met Obito before dieing again) or Kishi has made a pretty substantial blunder. If Kishi did make a mistake, than it can only be covered up by assuming either Tobi or Madara lied about Madara in a situation were there was no risk to them telling the truth.
Opinions? Comments? Rage?
