If I Read About Kaguya Being FV One More Time

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I'm pretty annoyed that everyone just assumes that Kaguya will be a villain if she makes an appearance.

How does your mind work, "This person is stronger than the other characters so far so that makes them evil." ?

Not everyone exists as a stepping stone for the main characters to show how badass they are, lot's of good stories have characters who are far beyond the reach of the main cast.

A solid example is in rurouni kenshin, the main character's sensei is far and away the most powerful in the series but he almost never gets involved in events unless he's bored and wants to smack around unimportant fodder. It works because he has realistic philosophical reasons for not getting involved, and because the author had SOME level of restraint so that the 'fate of the world' as a whole was never in the balance... just the fate of the characters in the story.

"But Kaguya was a tyrant who ruled the world in fear!"

No, the world was in an endless war and she obtained the power to bring peace... which at the time she did through a demonstration of superior power. The people loved her and called her the 'rabbit goddess' for a long time but eventually bigoted people grew to fear power her and resent her for it. Sure she had infinite power and could cast a genjutsu on the world, but here's the thing: clearly her plan wasn't to permanently illusion everyone because otherwise everyone would still be illusioned. Most likely she used the IT to show people what the world could be like without a neverending war or something similar.

The details are speculative but we know that she didn't just illusion everyone and just walk away. She even had two sons, so clearly she saw the value in the real world.

The way I see it, Madara took the wrong lessons from her example and came to the wrong conclusions. I'll laugh if she comes back and smacks madara down for making her look bad or something.
 

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I'm pretty annoyed that everyone just assumes that Kaguya will be a villain if she makes an appearance.

How does your mind work, "This person is stronger than the other characters so far so that makes them evil." ?

Not everyone exists as a stepping stone for the main characters to show how badass they are, lot's of good stories have characters who are far beyond the reach of the main cast.

A solid example is in rurouni kenshin, the main character's sensei is far and away the most powerful in the series but he almost never gets involved in events unless he's bored and wants to smack around unimportant fodder. It works because he has realistic philosophical reasons for not getting involved, and because the author had SOME level of restraint so that the 'fate of the world' as a whole was never in the balance... just the fate of the characters in the story.

"But Kaguya was a tyrant who ruled the world in fear!"

No, the world was in an endless war and she obtained the power to bring peace... which at the time she did through a demonstration of superior power. The people loved her and called her the 'rabbit goddess' for a long time but eventually bigoted people grew to fear power her and resent her for it. Sure she had infinite power and could cast a genjutsu on the world, but here's the thing: clearly her plan wasn't to permanently illusion everyone because otherwise everyone would still be illusioned. Most likely she used the IT to show people what the world could be like without a neverending war or something similar.

The details are speculative but we know that she didn't just illusion everyone and just walk away. She even had two sons, so clearly she saw the value in the real world.

The way I see it, Madara took the wrong lessons from her example and came to the wrong conclusions. I'll laugh if she comes back and smacks madara down for making her look bad or something.
My answer to you is the comment I worte above and as for her return, I think that she'll take coontrol of him at some point. Lastly, let me remind you that this current so called final villain was nothing more than a dead man for the most of the manga so being said that, everything is possible.
 

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I'll tell one thing: both the Juubi and the sage supposedly belonged to history yet they both made their return, why shouldn't I believe that she will follow their steps? Also I would like to point this out: kaguya is definetely related to the dead demon seal. Being said that, she had been introduced a long time ago but we just didn't really know her role or how her story. Based on that, you see that Kauya did not appear at last moment as you make it sound, you hadn't paid attention to her before because you couldn't have possibly connected her with the seal haven't you known about her.

P.S Do you seriously believe that Kaguya has no ulterior motives when she offers her help?
if you haven't skipped the class that teaches reading comprehension in your school, there wasn't a single post i made that said i definitely don't think it's gonna happen because i already acknowledged the possibility a couple of chapters ago that it could be the case. What i haven't seen from you or anyone else of your ilk is irrefutable proof that is definitely going to happen. Like OP said, there hasn't been a single moment so far where a part of Madara's body was moving on it's own, nor has their even been a moment so far that even said Kaguya can directly effect anything in the physical world.

The only thing i've seen ppl offer as proof is her advising Madara to absorb the Shinju and smile that came after Madara executed the genjutsu. The scenarios i offered are just as probable, only ppl are taking their own wishful thinking and trying to convince other ppl that is an undeniable fact just because they have convinced themselves that it is. And big shocker, no one can still give a straight answer as to why she would need to take over Madara's body when it's already been noted that they have the exact same ideology and agenda. And even if she tries to take over Madara's body, who is to say she will be the one who wins? I seem to recall a time where plenty of ppl were just as convinced Madara wouldn't have what it took to become JJ, and those ppl are probably still trying to get the egg and the red of their face. Madara has plenty of exp consistently showcasing how much stronger his will is than any entity, even if they are technically stronger than himself.
 
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There is no absolutely no need for kaguya to return when Madara is just like her in terms of character. The people yelling out "kaguya CONFIRMED FINAL VILLAIN" are either retarded, illiterate, trolls, or straight up Madara-Haters.
 

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if you haven't skipped the class that teaches reading comprehension in your school, there wasn't a single post i made that said i definitely don't think it's gonna happen because i already acknowledged the possibility a couple of chapters ago that it could be the case. What i haven't seen from you or anyone else of your ilk is irrefutable proof that is definitely going to happen. Like OP said, there hasn't been a single moment so far where a part of Madara's body was moving on it's own, nor has their even been a moment so far that even said Kaguya can directly effect anything in the physical world.

The only thing i've seen ppl offer as proof is her advising Madara to absorb the Shinju and smile that came after Madara executed the genjutsu. The scenarios i offered are just as probable, only ppl are taking their own wishful thinking and trying to convince other ppl that is an undeniable fact just because they have convinced themselves that it is. And big shocker, no one can still give a straight answer as to why she would need to take over Madara's body when it's already been noted that they have the exact same ideology and agenda. And even if she tries to take over Madara's body, who is to say she will be the one who wins? I seem to recall a time where plenty of ppl were just as convinced Madara wouldn't have what it took to become JJ, and those ppl are probably still trying to get the egg and the red of their face. Madara has plenty of exp consistently showcasing how much stronger his will is than any entity, even if they are technically stronger than himself.
Lol you're just an ignorant and it's funny how you call me one. First of all, you say that I'm the one who takes for granted that she will be the final villain while it's OP who doesn't even think of it as a case.

Kaguya is not the final villain. Just staph NB (the idiots not the smart ones). Or you will feel Doom's Wrath.
That being said, he's the one who is intransigent, not me. I merely posted my reasons as to why Kaguya can come into the game the same way Madara, Juubi and the sage did. I've never stated that it's bound to happen but rather that it's highly possible. Also, for real? Who can tell with certainty that one thing will happen? Only an idiot does that but on the other hand you can't just simply rule it out.

Also Kaguya taking control of Madara's body is logical for the main reason that she wants to have the power ALONE, not anyone else. By that logic of yours why Madara wanted to be the one to become the Jin since supposedly Obito had the same dream? POWER! Last but not least, who the hell said that Kaguya will talk no jutsu him? She will just force her way through it. Do you compare a legend like her, the person who ruled the world, a person that was considered even more powerful than the sage himself, to Madara? Lol.


Instead of jumping in conclusions think before you post.
 
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" She has no connection to the characters that like playing a fighting game on Story mode you beat the main villain/boss who's been the antagonist the whole time and then a random boss comes and takeover, you barely know who the boss is and you beat the game. End Credits. "


Clearly you haven't played many final fantasy or rpg games.

Ff9 wtf random god boss after kuja.

Ff13, wtf orphan out of nowhere.

legend of dragon who the **** is melbu frama lol.
 

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if you haven't skipped the class that teaches reading comprehension in your school, there wasn't a single post i made that said i definitely don't think it's gonna happen because i already acknowledged the possibility a couple of chapters ago that it could be the case. What i haven't seen from you or anyone else of your ilk is irrefutable proof that is definitely going to happen. Like OP said, there hasn't been a single moment so far where a part of Madara's body was moving on it's own, nor has their even been a moment so far that even said Kaguya can directly effect anything in the physical world.

The only thing i've seen ppl offer as proof is her advising Madara to absorb the Shinju and smile that came after Madara executed the genjutsu. The scenarios i offered are just as probable, only ppl are taking their own wishful thinking and trying to convince other ppl that is an undeniable fact just because they have convinced themselves that it is. And big shocker, no one can still give a straight answer as to why she would need to take over Madara's body when it's already been noted that they have the exact same ideology and agenda. And even if she tries to take over Madara's body, who is to say she will be the one who wins? I seem to recall a time where plenty of ppl were just as convinced Madara wouldn't have what it took to become JJ, and those ppl are probably still trying to get the egg and the red of their face. Madara has plenty of exp consistently showcasing how much stronger his will is than any entity, even if they are technically stronger than himself.
You were saying?
 

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What exactly changed since you beg to differ so suddenly? You really think she'll be the final villain because of a cliff hanger? Sasuke or Madara is guaranteed, not this cougar.
 

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What's funnier is that you're taking a fictional story and people's opinions seriously.

Calm down bro, before you end up bursting an unnecessary blood vessel...
 
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