If I Read About Kaguya Being FV One More Time

[Zol]

I also don't think Kaguya will become the proper final villain. I rather think her chakra/spirit/etc. supports Madara and lends him power, just like it is with Hagoromo and Naruto/Sasuke.

On the other hand, we can't rule her out as the villain currently. I'm not very fond of it, but this kind of "last-minute-villain" sometimes happens in manga/games/movies etc.

 

[Six Paths]

The Fruit is the Final Villain, Don't worry about it.

 

[Meee]

It's kind of hypocritical to hear from Madara fans about having no connection to Naruto. Remember Obito had the closer connection to both Naruto and Sasuke so if we're following that logic then surely it should be better writing to have made Obito the final villain as opposed to Madara according to this logic.
Just saying.

haha, I instantly thought of that when reading the OP and not only did Obito have the better connection to the main characters but he was the villain for YEARS whereas Madara has only been around 1 arc

Idk if it will happen or not but its definitely possible for Kaguya to take over (rather she didn't)

 

[Dr Doom]

It's kind of hypocritical to hear from Madara fans about having no connection to Naruto. Remember Obito had the closer connection to both Naruto and Sasuke so if we're following that logic then surely it should be better writing to have made Obito the final villain as opposed to Madara according to this logic.
Just saying.

Who said I was a Madara fanboy? Just because I like him better than Obito makes me a fanboy right. And just because I bring up logic instead of saying "confirmed" about the small things in the manga like a random chick being the FV. That makes a fanboy right? Bro...I thought you need to take a break, go for a walk and rethink your life and the meaning of fan. Because I could care less if Madara is FV or not. As long as it makes sense instead of a abrupt introduction of a character like Kaguya. If we saw more of her before and working behind the scenes then it would make some sense if she decided to take over.

 

[Zol]

It's kind of hypocritical to hear from Madara fans about having no connection to Naruto. Remember Obito had the closer connection to both Naruto and Sasuke so if we're following that logic then surely it should be better writing to have made Obito the final villain as opposed to Madara according to this logic.
Just saying.

You do have a point there, but the thing is, all the time Obito was the villain, we thought of him as Madara. So, even if the actual Madara only met Naruto and Co. much later, he was established as the villain for a very long time...

 

[mikeeozua]

Who said I was a Madara fanboy? Just because I like him better than Obito makes me a fanboy right. And just because I bring up logic instead of saying "confirmed" about the small things in the manga like a random chick being the FV. That makes a fanboy right? Bro...I thought you need to take a break, go for a walk and rethink your life and the meaning of fan. Because I could care less if Madara is FV or not. As long as it makes sense instead of a abrupt introduction of a character like Kaguya. If we saw more of her before and working behind the scenes then it would make some sense if she decided to take over.

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I never accused you of being a fan, and if you are a fan of Madara then I have no problems towards that. I agree with your opinion in saying that Kaguya being FV would be too abrupt and not foreshadowed enough, I'm just pointing out that the whole issue of 'connection' can be used in Obito and Madara's case as well.

 

[Dr Doom]

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I never accused you of being a fan, and if you are a fan of Madara then I have no problems towards that. I agree with your opinion in saying that Kaguya being FV would be too abrupt and not foreshadowed enough, I'm just pointing out that the whole issue of 'connection' can be used in Obito and Madara's case as well.

True. And I thank you for that, I even just hate the word fanboy or being considered a fan. It's so childish (especially when the fanbade of two certain main characters in the manga war every week )

But it's like someone just said. Obito was doing thing in Madara's image and then when you have the real Madara show up and takeover and you also see that him and Obito have history and a partner like relationship then it seems to blend in seamlessly in the story imo.

 

[mikeeozua]

True. And I thank you for that, I even just hate the word fanboy or being considered a fan. It's so childish (especially when the fanbade of two certain main characters in the manga war every week )

But it's like someone just said. Obito was doing thing in Madara's image and then when you have the real Madara show up and takeover and you also see that him and Obito have history and a partner like relationship then it seems to blend in seamlessly in the story imo.

Ahh yeah, it makes sense now that I've seen the way you and Zol have put it. And yeah I don't think those certain fanbases will ever stop :|

 

[Trucktub]

not true. She's the grandmother of Ashura and Indra who are currently reborn as Naruto and Sasuke. Not exactly a direct connection, but a spiritual one is there.

I completely agree. It is not outside the realm of thinking that there would be some kind of connection made because of that. Naruto and Sasuke could both FEEL that bond. It's up to Kishi to make it emotional enough for us to give a crap, which I am confident he can do.

 

[Behemoth55]

There's a reason why Kaguya should make an appearance, I guess. Kishimoto-senpai has to explain the origins of chakra, shinju, Kaguya and of her two sons. Only Kaguya could do that actually. I can't say she will be the last antagonist, but it would be natural for a battle-shōnen if we would see the strongest character again.

 

[saw2097]

The same argument could be made for Madara, Obito had more of a connection to Naruto and Sasuke then Madara does, yet he wasn't the final villain.

Kaguya being the final villain is very possible.

 

[Mr Hiru]

It seriously boggles my mind how people up here think. Like straight up retards, but then again alot of people up here are young and have probably not taken a class on literature like a couple people up here who can realize the importance of character development, foreshadowing, plot device, etc. Based on how you interpret the clues of a story with acute attention to detail you can pretty much predict some of the story sometimes.

But my main issue is the use of the word "confirmed". When Madara absorbed the tree it was "confirmed" Kaguya was FV. It was definitely "confirmed"when we saw her evil smile *sarcasn* And don't say was foreshadowing, if anything that was a evil ***** still existing as a will or a essence. Madara saying like "my arm did that own it's own" after doing a Rinnegan tech would be foreshadowing because it shows the evil Kaguya is at least trying to use Madara's physical body. Madara has not shown any signs of being a puppet if anything it seems like he's being guided towards his goal that he set out from the beginning, and in the end is the FV and will go down like one. What Kaguya fans? Madara is gonna turn into a evil woman and now we have another 20 chapters of her fighting Naruto and Sasuke? She has no connection to the characters that like playing a fighting game on Story mode you beat the main villain/boss who's been the antagonist the whole time and then a random boss comes and takeover, you barely know who the boss is and you beat the game. End Credits. And I doubt Kishi is dumb enough to do that.


Kaguya is not the final villain. Just staph NB (the idiots not the smart ones). Or you will feel Doom's Wrath.

I was one of the first users who said that Kaguya never died after the sealing of the Juubi in the SO6P Era. I really feel surprised how this probability passed from being a probability to a confirmed status (plus being FV) without hard proof.

...now, this is not excuse to treat users of NB like them being idiots, when they are clearly not idiots (they would not reach these conclusions -though these being rushed and full of eagerness- and, they would be speaking nonsense in its place).

I have learned that it is better to respectfully do rebuttal in their threads, and pass from these kind of users when they are not willing to listen.

Those are my 5 cents in this thread. So take it easy.

Peace man.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

sasuke is the final villain

More like a final opponent.

 

[WalksInShadows]

i'm a fan of both, but until Kaguya actively does something that indicates she is trying to take over, posters on any Naruto forum need to stop with this "foreshadowing" or "confirmed/official" garbage. Nobody that says that kind of stuff can even ever seem to give any straight answer other than some derptroll "it's obvious/clear" kind of answer when asked as to why she would need to hijack Madara's body when he shares her vision 100%.

 

[Byron123]

Lol so for you when Kaguya tempts madara to absorb the tree and then we see her smirking like that, you think that it's of no importance? There is a reason for Kaguya tempting Madara and there is also a reason for being happy with the turn of the events.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Lol so for you when Kaguya tempts madara to absorb the tree and then we see her smirking like that, you think that it's of no importance? There is a reason for Kaguya tempting Madara and there is also a reason for being happy with the turn of the events.

Kaguya could've told Madara to absorb the tree in a genuine effort to save his life, and that smile could've been because Madara was executing the genjutsu. Two straight, simple answers. Posts like yours' is why OP made this thread, and is an example of what i just got through saying in my last post. It sounds more like you want it to be that importance and not actually because it is. Hagoromo said Madara was just like Kaguya, or is that statement not important?

 

[flyboyissac]

fat buu we thought was the final villian untill evil side came out

 

[Byron123]

Kaguya could've told Madara to absorb the tree in a genuine effort to save his life, and that smile could've been because Madara was executing the genjutsu. Two straight, simple answers. Posts like yours' is why OP made this thread, and is an example of what i just got through saying in my last post. It sounds more like you want it to be that importance and not actually because it is. Hagoromo said Madara was just like Kaguya, or is that statement not important?

I'll tell one thing: both the Juubi and the sage supposedly belonged to history yet they both made their return, why shouldn't I believe that she will follow their steps? Also I would like to point this out: kaguya is definetely related to the dead demon seal. Being said that, she had been introduced a long time ago but we just didn't really know her role or how her story. Based on that, you see that Kauya did not appear at last moment as you make it sound, you hadn't paid attention to her before because you couldn't have possibly connected her with the seal haven't you known about her.

P.S Do you seriously believe that Kaguya has no ulterior motives when she offers her help?

 

[xcoyote]

I'll tell one thing: both the Juubi and the sage supposedly belonged to history yet they both made their return, why shouldn't I believe that she will follow their steps?

P.S Do you seriously believe that Kaguya has no ulterior motives when she offers her help?

This guy gets it,its like saying the Devil offers power for free.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Didn't read but Kaguya shall be the FV Deal with it U_U