If Hyuuga and uzumaki so powerful

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You're not getting the point are you ? Let me simplify, Hiruzen wanted peace, no fighting. If Hyuuga stepped in = civil war, which Hiruzen wouldn't tolerate. Since Itachi followed Hashirama's will, and being a uchiha, it was more convenient to do the assassination.

The decision was Itachi's, since he insisted on doing so (under direct influence of Danzo). You should realize that no one can predict the outcome if there's a battle between those two clans, because Naruto is mostly a non-linear story line. Its up to Kishi's will.
Lmao the outcome is simple Hyuuga get slaughtered neg diff
 

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senju / uzumaki were pretty much dead when the start of manga and who is that 7 year old never heard of him in manga at least and i don't think hyugas can keep up with uchiha
 
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Well we know who was actually stronger no need to make up fanfic :tea:
Fanfic? What fanfic

Danzo who took an eye from Shisui of the body flicker (without his permission btw) seems to imply a single shinobi could wipe out the uchiha clan..

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That's a manga scan to prove it. The Uchiha were great during the wars without a doubt...But c'mon man..you can't deny portrayal and comprehension of what is shown in this scan is that the Uchiha at the time of the coup weren't strong at all. Danzo was extremely confident they'll be wiped out either way.
 

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The Hyuga and Uzumaki are fodder well the Hyuga still have some utility value because of the Byakugan and all that. However the uzumaki aren't anything special if longevity counts as special then ok but other than that f the fodder.
 

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=Jinrou;20712214]Fanfic? What fanfic

Danzo who took an eye from Shisui of the body flicker (without his permission btw) seems to imply a single shinobi could wipe out the uchiha clan..
you dont know exactly what transpired during the danzo and shisui clash, the exact details which is necessary and conditions so you making a conclusion at bold is rather premature.

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That's a manga scan to prove it. The Uchiha were great during the wars without a doubt...But c'mon man..you can't deny portrayal and comprehension of what is shown in this scan is that the Uchiha at the time of the coup weren't strong at all. Danzo was extremely confident they'll be wiped out either way.
well considering they would be up against all the clans in konoha and they are only one without any ally of course danzo would confident they would be wiped out, numbers wise alone, odds are in the favour of the village. one clan against what? multiple? not sure how that shows they are not strong, it depicts the opposite if anything.

not to mention their reputation for being the most feared still remained during the era of the coup and even after the massacre, kakashi still referenced them as the strongest in the leaf. this shows that uchiha were still the no 1 clan during that time. so portrayal is also in their favour
 
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you dont know exactly what transpired during the danzo and shisui clash, the exact details which is necessary and conditions so you making a conclusion at bold is rather premature.


well considering they would be up against all the clans in konoha and they are only one without any ally of course danzo would confident they would be wiped out, numbers wise alone, odds are in the favour of the village. one clan against what? multiple? not sure how that shows they are not strong, it depicts the opposite if anything.

not to mention their reputation for being the most feared still remained during the era of the coup and even after the massacre, kakashi still referenced them as the strongest in the leaf. this shows that uchiha were still the no 1 clan during that time. so portrayal is also in their favour
The Clan (at that time) was Garbage imo their desperation for Itachi aiding them proved that. Itachi is someone who can't be limited as an Uchiha. The man was a "genius" in the manga. And his KKG and blood had nothing to do with that.

Put itachi in any other clan and he still wipes the Uchiha clan out. Guranteed
 

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The Clan was Garbage imo. Itachi cannot is someone who can't be limited as an Uchiha. The man was a "genius" in the manga. And his KKG and blood had nothing to do with that.

Put itachi in any other clan and he still wipes the Uchiha clan out. Guranteed
How can the clan be garbage when everyone holds in such high regard even years after being wiped out lmao. Even Sasuke says a genius Marley comes off as average infront of uchiha. Just look at obito after unlocking sharingan already on par with a jounin and before that he was beyond fodder
 

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How can the clan be garbage when everyone holds in such high regard even years after being wiped out lmao. Even Sasuke says a genius Marley comes off as average infront of uchiha. Just look at obito after unlocking sharingan already on par with a jounin and before that he was beyond fodder
Who, other than the members knew of the conflict manifesting within the clan? Why was is so important that Itachi spearheaded the destruction or coup?

Because Itachi was stronger, wiser, and more skilled than any Uchiha at that point. I'm positive even Obito knew he'd be better as an ally than someone as an enemy.
 
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Who, other than the clan knew of the conflict manifesting within the clan?
It doesn't matter because Danzo couldn't ask anyone else or else he would have to summon an army to fight the uchiha clan leading to a world war everyone knows that lmao
 

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It doesn't matter because Danzo couldn't ask anyone else or else he would have to summon an army to fight the uchiha clan leading to a world war everyone knows that lmao
Danzo had no power to summon an army, he wasn't the Hokage.

Danzo played to Itachi's weakness, his little brother and the Village.

The War would have only started if the coup happened, which wasn't going to occur. Why? Because Fugaku's apprehensiveness to go through it without his Son (who was anbu at the time. Closest to the Hokage)Or Shisui (who had died).

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With or Without Itachi considering the coup started would have had more casualties on the Uchiha clan than the Village. He was playing to win, Planning to cut the head of the snake and take over not to cause the Daiyoji Ninkai Taisen and be wiped out by Konoha or enemy villages.

Maybe most importantly, he didn't want to raise his hand against his own son.
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Danzo had no power to summon an army, he wasn't the Hokage.

Danzo played to Itachi's weakness, his little brother and the Village.

The War would have only started if the coup happened, which wasn't going to occur. Why? Because Fugaku's apprehensiveness to go through it without his Son (who was anbu at the time. Closest to the Hokage)Or Shisui (who had died).

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With or Without Itachi considering the coup started would have had more casualties on the Uchiha clan than the Village. He was playing to win, Planning to cut the head of the snake and take over not to cause the Daiyoji Ninkai Taisen and be wiped out by Konoha or enemy villages.

Maybe most importantly, he didn't want to raise his hand against his own son.
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I think Danzo could easily summon an army because hurizen was being a noob and the elders were on his side. Other than that these are some fair points
 

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The Clan (at that time) was Garbage imo their desperation for Itachi aiding them proved that. Itachi is someone who can't be limited as an Uchiha. The man was a "genius" in the manga. And his KKG and blood had nothing to do with that.

Put itachi in any other clan and he still wipes the Uchiha clan out. Guranteed
itachi was one of the strongest among them who had unlocked the very rare MS, who wouldnt want him on their side? how does that even prove anything? not to mention he was the son of the leader, and am pretty sure he would in most anything want his son fighting with him rather than against.

the bold. without assitance from obito and if the uchihas are all on guard and not taken unawares in the night? no he doesnt wipe out anything. he canonically needed those conditions and help to do so. like i said, uchihas were still the no 1 during the coup era so if they are garbage, then the other clans must be dirt poor if thats what you want to say.
 
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