[Predictions] Ichiji vs Sanji

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By feats ichiji is impressive but Sanji is clearly stronger. So far we've only seen Sanji use the same attacks that he did in the Ennies Lobby arc. We didn't see him apply haki to his attacks really or even try for that matter. The best attack he's used so far is Observation haki, sky walk,blue walk, and hell's memories.

When we actually see him go all out then we can compare, because his brother's look weaker than Sanji.
 

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Let's just say the raid-suit would give its user like Ichiji or Sanji 100% power. Can Sanji without raid-suit go +100% of power? Cause I believe the raid-suit does make a user stronger, but at certain limits, so unless Sanji pushes his limits and go beyond 100, he will be stronger than Ichiji. Even if Ichiji was wearing raid-suit. Just speculation.

However, I would say that even Oda would avoid such idea and save that image of the strong and big (elder) brother.
 

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Haki is what qualifies strength, so its a factor when talking about strength. And so far so good none except sanji from the germa6 has displayed one.

Besides you also have to concider their positions.
Sanji is a pirate fighting for his life daily
While the others are fighting with an army behind them
So who would u say stand a chance let's not forget that the only reason luffy beat dogtooth isnt becos of strength or becos he is the main character but becos he has endurance.
And oda has made sure he established that fact so many times
 

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This chapter shows sanji is the weakest.

Chekovs gun.... its chekovs gun.... The m3 was something introduced and then dropped. It's not like sanji is a bad character or isn't strong he could have just been outside the m3 and it been a duo and none of us would have to feel like he fell off.
 

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Haki is what qualifies strength, so its a factor when talking about strength. And so far so good none except sanji from the germa6 has displayed one.

Besides you also have to concider their positions.
Sanji is a pirate fighting for his life daily
While the others are fighting with an army behind them
So who would u say stand a chance let's not forget that the only reason luffy beat dogtooth isnt becos of strength or becos he is the main character but becos he has endurance.
And oda has made sure he established that fact so many times
 

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Haki is what qualifies strength, so its a factor when talking about strength. And so far so good none except sanji from the germa6 has displayed one.

Besides you also have to concider their positions.
Sanji is a pirate fighting for his life daily
While the others are fighting with an army behind them
So who would u say stand a chance let's not forget that the only reason luffy beat dogtooth isnt becos of strength or becos he is the main character but becos he has endurance.
And oda has made sure he established that fact so many times
His rad suit brothers just showed him up and he gets out paced by them this chapter and then shot. Other than yonji sanji is the weakest.

Which is mad dissapointing
 
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This chapter shows sanji is the weakest.

Chekovs gun.... its chekovs gun.... The m3 was something introduced and then dropped. It's not like sanji is a bad character or isn't strong he could have just been outside the m3 and it been a duo and none of us would have to feel like he fell off.
Um, and I could be wrong here, but I don't think the M3 was ever something actually introduced in the manga, it was fan perception. I don't recall Oda ever saying Luffy Sanji and Zoro will officially always be the top 3 SH's.

The fuck are you talking about ?, Sanji never got shot this chapter. He got hit by Yuen and his staff.
He's talking about the spoilers for this weeks chapter, it mentioned something about Sanji being shot, which honestly makes no sense to me since he dodged a healthy Kata's bean flick which seemed from the way it was portrayed to be faster than a bullet. I think Sanji might just be getting gassed or something at this point?
 
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Um, and I could be wrong here, but I don't think the M3 was ever something actually introduced in the manga, it was fan perception. I don't recall Oda ever saying Luffy Sanji and Zoro will officially always be the top 3 SH's.



He's talking about the spoilers for this weeks chapter, it mentioned something about Sanji being shot, which honestly makes no sense to me since he dodged a healthy Kata's bean flick which seemed from the way it was portrayed to be faster than a bullet. I think Sanji might just be getting gassed or something at this point?
For fucks sake, I don't care if you guys spoil yourself, but keep that discussion in the appropriate section. Speculating with shitty translation and without images is such a stupid thing to do besides spoiling other people here.

How many times have spoilers dropped and that people had to adjust their attitude towards a chapter.
 

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For fucks sake, I don't care if you guys spoil yourself, but keep that discussion in the appropriate section. Speculating with shitty translation and without images is such a stupid thing to do besides spoiling other people here.

How many times have spoilers dropped and that people had to adjust their attitude towards a chapter.
Idk, I'm just informing you what he's talking about no need to get mad over here.
 

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For fucks sake, I don't care if you guys spoil yourself, but keep that discussion in the appropriate section. Speculating with shitty translation and without images is such a stupid thing to do besides spoiling other people here.

How many times have spoilers dropped and that people had to adjust their attitude towards a chapter.
I am actually genuinely sorry I hadn't even considered that other people don't like to read the spoilers in advanced. Ill edit my post and remember it for the future
 

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Um, and I could be wrong here, but I don't think the M3 was ever something actually introduced in the manga, it was fan perception. I don't recall Oda ever saying Luffy Sanji and Zoro will officially always be the top 3 SH's.



He's talking about the spoilers for this weeks chapter, it mentioned something about Sanji being shot, which honestly makes no sense to me since he dodged a healthy Kata's bean flick which seemed from the way it was portrayed to be faster than a bullet. I think Sanji might just be getting gassed or something at this point?

Chapter 606 is the most recent time it was used and that's post time skip.
But it was first coined by ussop in alabasta
 
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