[Theory] I think I can’t enjoy Naruto anymore because of OP!

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Yes I feel the exact same way. However, if you go back, and re-read/watch entire part 1 Naruto, you will feel even worse, because you will see that Naruto part 1 actually matched OP. Both in humor, story line, and potential development.

However, Naruto lost its humor, I never laugh at it anymore. The story line has been messed up and is just focusing on one point. The potential is very short, and Kishi keeps throwing new happenings in our face. We can't take so many new plot twists in such short time. So why does he do it? Is he stupid? No. He just wants to end the manga, so he is using all of his best ideas at once :|

Compared to One Piece, Oda has kept the same pace all the way, and he has only had a few "huge" climax so far. The humor is still brilliant (just like Naruto part 1), there are no major plot twists lying around every now and then. We slowly learn more and more about the OP universe, Oda's ideas come forth slowly, but in a pace, which we love, and which keeps making us excited for the next chapters. We aren't being overfed as with Naruto. And he still keeps the humor in every chapter (almost), which is just brilliant after a long day of work, and you can laugh of something so simple, yet so original. And of course the potential of the story, well if he wants, he can easily make it last for a decade, but np for me, I'm still young lol
 
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Yes I feel the exact same way. However, if you go back, and re-read/watch entire part 1 Naruto, you will feel even worse, because you will see that Naruto part 1 actually matched OP. Both in humor, story line, and potential development.

However, Naruto lost its humor, I never laugh at it anymore. The story line has been messed up and is just focusing on one point. The potential is very short, and Kishi keeps throwing new happenings in our face. We can't take so many new plot twists in such short time. So why does he do it? Is he stupid? No. He just wants to end the manga, so he is using all of his best ideas at once :|

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That is definitely true and as you said very sad. :(

I HOPE the Naruto Manga will get back to its former self!
 

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Yes I feel the exact same way. However, if you go back, and re-read/watch entire part 1 Naruto, you will feel even worse, because you will see that Naruto part 1 actually matched OP. Both in humor, story line, and potential development.

However, Naruto lost its humor, I never laugh at it anymore. The story line has been messed up and is just focusing on one point. The potential is very short, and Kishi keeps throwing new happenings in our face. We can't take so many new plot twists in such short time. So why does he do it? Is he stupid? No. He just wants to end the manga, so he is using all of his best ideas at once :|

Compared to One Piece, Oda has kept the same pace all the way, and he has only had a few "huge" climax so far. The humor is still brilliant (just like Naruto part 1), there are no major plot twists lying around every now and then. We slowly learn more and more about the OP universe, Oda's ideas come forth slowly, but in a pace, which we love, and which keeps making us excited for the next chapters. We aren't being overfed as with Naruto. And he still keeps the humor in every chapter (almost), which is just brilliant after a long day of work, and you can laugh of something so simple, yet so original. And of course the potential of the story, well if he wants, he can easily make it last for a decade, but np for me, I'm still young lol
Naruto lost its humor because Kishi wanted to show how everything is more mature now that Naruto is older.
 

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There are 585+ episodes of One Piece. You saw the first 3 episodes. Congrats, you have watched .5% of the total story. That's like reading the title of a book, reading the first line then saying, nope this book seems "like a real goof ass" book to me. The story is at it's half way point and is just getting better and better. Sure, the first few episodes aren't that good, but judging it with the little knowledge you have saying it isn't serious is ignorant.
no need to get cranked up man, I said it 'LOOKED' like a real goof ass show. Never said it IS a goof ass show :)
and its not that the only thing I know about the show are those 3 episodes... From everything I read about it
I just know that this is a way of bringing manga/anime that doesn't suit me.
I'm not judging the show as a whole, I'm judging my taste of manga/anime to not suit
the one brought by OP.



Then with your little One Piece knowledge, you attempt to down play it by saying rating don't matter. Then you use an example that suggests popularity and not ratings. Good way to twist things around. Ratings combine popularity and quality and give it a rating using both. Popularity doesn't matter much, I'll agree with you there. How good something is does matter however. If 10,00 people give one anime a 9.5 out of 10 on average and 100,000 people give another anime an 8 out of 10, guess which one is better. The one with the higher rating. One Piece does have a higher rating on most manga websites, just an fyi. One Piece also has sold twice as much manga volumes then Naruto also. That almost suggests One Piece has better rating and is more popular huh. I wonder why so many people like it if it's just a "real goof ass" anime/manga.
yet again, no need to get all worked up man. I wasn't even talking to you neither was I down talking the show.
I don't know the show, why would I attempt to judge it by the little things I know about it.
returning to the ratings topic.

"ratings = A classification or ranking of someone or something based on a comparative assessment of their quality, standard, or performance."

Relying an the definition of the word you can define that SOMEBODY decides wether it gets good ratings or not.
Now then I ask myself the question, how can this 'rating' be a global agreement if there still always is
somebody who defies the standards and norms of this definition.
It really is a matter of personal taste, cause somewhere in this world there always is 1 person, or more that has
to set the standards.

Anyway i still concur that I do not judge OP, its just not my taste of candy.


In addition, you shouldn't bash people giving their opinion.
I said it enough, but I'll state it even more Its a matter of personal opinion.
Who are you to judge people that like naruto more or vice versa?
Exactly nobody!
You shouldn't try to change peoples opinions, we live in a 70% democratic world
were the people have been given the gift of freedom of speech.
You shouldn't try to suppress it, neither should I or for a fact ANYONE on this base.
 
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^idk if you're being hypocrite or whatsoever,
but all i can say that you were wrong, i have never heard a person said that One Piece is shit after they finished they entire show,
they only said that after watching 2 or 3 episode from it and then unlike you they actually continue the show and see it for them self how great the show can get............

oh and i see you also said something like "Its all a matter of what you like more, the serious anime's or the jokey ones."
i can assure you that One Piece is a lot more serious than Naruto, this Manga become the best seller of WSJ for a reason....

freedom of speech is cool and all but if you try to talked about something that you didn't know then that's where you fail.....
 

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^idk if you're being hypocrite or whatsoever,
but all i can say that you were wrong, i have never heard a person said that One Piece is shit after they finished they entire show,
they only said that after watching 2 or 3 episode from it and then unlike you they actually continue the show and see it for them self how great the show can get............

oh and i see you also said something like "Its all a matter of what you like more, the serious anime's or the jokey ones."
i can assure you that One Piece is a lot more serious than Naruto, this Manga become the best seller of WSJ for a reason....

freedom of speech is cool and all but if you try to talked about something that you didn't know then that's where you fail.....
please review your vocabulary and grammar before posting a counter argument.
You'll be taken more seriously and most important of all, people understand you.

As for the argument, I don't think you understand what I'm getting at. You are EXACTLY doing what I said
that nobody should even try to do here, trying to change a personal opinion.
you're sounding like some sort of Mexican preacher right now and for your information, its not flattering you.

As for your comment on how I talk about something I don't know, you even clarify my notice upon you
not getting ANYTHING I just wrote even more.
I stated in the above that I do not judge the show for I do not have enough information about it, I was judging My opinion
and everyone else's that directly adds up to mine towards the show.

As for this discussion, I won't be adding anything more you are clearly not on the same level of speech as me
and it would be a waste of time deepening it any further.

Conclusion:
I DO NOT judge OP, for a fact I might even like it, sadly something I will probably never find out though.
But its wrong of people to bash on humans for spreading their opinions on something!
If people don't like it, they don't its simple as that.
If you can't live with the fact people not liking what you like please, search the nearest cliff and jump off it while doing a backflip.
The times of dictatorship and suppression of the peoples voice are over.
 

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please review your vocabulary and grammar before posting a counter argument.
You'll be taken more seriously and most important of all, people understand you.
don't you have a better thing to say than pointing Vocab and Grammar in the internet ?
I've talked with people who actually speak fluent English and have English as their main language but not even once they said they can't understand me..... so its either your English understanding is poor or you're just don't know what to say anymore......

As for the argument, I don't think you understand what I'm getting at. You are EXACTLY doing what I said
that nobody should even try to do here, trying to change a personal opinion.
you're sounding like some sort of Mexican preacher right now and for your information, its not flattering you.
you mad bro ? LOL did i hit the right place there ? to make you resort such racist and incoherent insult ?
listen am not here to try to changed your personal opinion, am here to express what i think about your opinion about One Piece which is incorrect cause you haven't seen anything from the show yet you pull a fast one and labeled it shit,

and don't give me the " i don't say its shit i thought they were shit or "it 'LOOKED' like a real goof ass show. Never said it IS a goof ass show", that just a pathetic attempt to avoid certain kill, the main thing is you said it and that's mean you judge the show and yet you say you don't just because you don't have anything to say anymore

As for your comment on how I talk about something I don't know, you even clarify my notice upon you
not getting ANYTHING I just wrote even more.
I stated in the above that I do not judge the show for I do not have enough information about it, I was judging My opinion
and everyone else's that directly adds up to mine towards the show.
ah so you don't have enough information about the show yet you still come here and said something like Shit and Goof ass show ?

so what is your judgement about your opinion ? well in the first place why would come here and try to judge your own opinion which is not related to the thread at all,

and you did act like you know One Piece by stating "Its all a matter of what you like more, the serious anime's or the jokey ones." which s fail cause OP is lot more serious compared to Naruto :shrug:

As for this discussion, I won't be adding anything more you are clearly not on the same level of speech as me
and it would be a waste of time deepening it any further.
of course you won't be adding more into this discussion cause you don't know anything about the show, and if you were to try to add more then it will make you look like an idiot........
nice excuse

Conclusion:
I DO NOT judge OP, for a fact I might even like it, sadly something I will probably never find out though.
But its wrong of people to bash on humans for spreading their opinions on something!
If people don't like it, they don't its simple as that.
If you can't live with the fact people not liking what you like please, search the nearest cliff and jump off it while doing a backflip.
The times of dictatorship and suppression of the peoples voice are over.
you did judge it for a moment there and then went back cause you know you are wrong its just that you are too "proud" to admit it,

people bash you cause you belittle the show out of nowhere, if someone said they don't like One Piece despite seeing the entire Manga and Anime then no one will questioned their opinion cause they have a good reason and they actually know what they're talking about,

Democracy is good and all but that doesn't mean an individual can just say whatever he want without having through understanding about the topic, just like what you do now...............
 

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don't you have a better thing to say than pointing Vocab and Grammar in the internet ?
I've talked with people who actually speak fluent English and have English as their main language but not even once they said they can't understand me..... so its either your English understanding is poor or you're just don't know what to say anymore......
I was trying to help you not sound like a child, my apologies. Like I said, people will take you much more seriously
if you use right spelling and grammar.
Yet again you don't get what I say, I never implied that I don't understand you.



you mad bro ? LOL did i hit the right place there ? to make you resort such racist and incoherent insult ?
listen am not here to try to changed your personal opinion, am here to express what i think about your opinion about One Piece which is incorrect cause you haven't seen anything from the show yet you pull a fast one and labeled it shit,
I'm not mad, I just used a simple stereotypical reference to make my argument clear. As you clearly do not understand
the rest of the things I write, I tried to keep it simple.
There you go again, bragging about how you are not trying to change my opinion but then a moment later you state that
my opinion is WRONG.

litteral definition of the word opinion
=A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
=The belief or views of a person about a particular thing.

Where do you even get the idea that you, as a simple individual are capable of judging MY OPINION
or the way I look at a certain aspect of a topic?

and don't give me the " i don't say its shit i thought they were shit or "it 'LOOKED' like a real goof ass show. Never said it IS a goof ass show", that just a pathetic attempt to avoid certain kill, the main thing is you said it and that's mean you judge the show and yet you say you don't just because you don't have anything to say anymore
I will simply refer to what i stated in my last comment to counter argument this.
Do you even READ what I say? or TRY to understand what I type? Or are your puny brains just not
capable of comprehending such delicate matter? Please At least try to bring in some fact based arguments
and not just start spouting idiotic sentences.

ah so you don't have enough information about the show yet you still come here and said something like Shit and Goof ass show ?
Yet another perfect example of somebody pulling the meaning of words out of it true
ignoring the context.
This is what I said:

I think its fairly common to lose interest in one show when you watch something els.
Though what you're going true is something that is rather a matter of personality.
I watched 3 first episodes of One piece and I thought they were shit and went right back to
naruto and bleach...

Its all a matter of what you like more, the serious anime's or the jokey ones.
Cause from the couple of eps I saw from OP it seemed like a real goof ass show to me.
No offense given ofcource!


try understanding it a little please and not just guessing what your tiny brains thinks it is.

so what is your judgement about your opinion ? well in the first place why would come here and try to judge your own opinion which is not related to the thread at all,
My judgement upon my opinion has been stated for a numerous of times but YET AGAIN you fail
to read what is written on the page.
judgement: Its a matter of personal opinion and nobody should even try to think that
that is a matter they an change. Look up 'Freedom of speech'.
Why I come here to do so? I was simply adding up to the thread owners question and remarks.
Something Which he appreciated, so for the matter of fact the question is, why are you here acting like a
total jackass judging OTHER peoples opinions while the one you should be looking at is your own.

and you did act like you know One Piece by stating "Its all a matter of what you like more, the serious anime's or the jokey ones." which s fail cause OP is lot more serious compared to Naruto :shrug:
I can't seem to notice enough how much you have problems with reading, look at the above. I clearly stated
it SEEMED like a less serious show and do not try to give me the crap you pulled before
on the difference between 'being' and seeming' cause. Its a argument little kids pull on their
parents if they can't go on the carrousel. Not something grown people do when discussing

of course you won't be adding more into this discussion cause you don't know anything about the show, and if you were to try to add more then it will make you look like an idiot........
nice excuse
I think I already stated that I don't know much about the show myself, no need to get a repetitive.
I wasn't gonna ad up anything because I noticed from the beginning that you are that
kind of people that doesn't have the intellect to have a proper discussion with.



you did judge it for a moment there and then went back cause you know you are wrong its just that you are too "proud" to admit it,
I judged nothing. I ASSUMED something, do you understand what that means?
= Suppose to be the case, without proof

and I never EVER went back on that.

people bash you cause you belittle the show out of nowhere, if someone said they don't like One Piece despite seeing the entire Manga and Anime then no one will questioned their opinion cause they have a good reason and they actually know what they're talking about,
People are not bashing me, YOU are TRYING to bash me.
For the matter of fact I even got several rep points for my comments before the bashing and discussing part.
YES! You guessed it right, YOU AGAIN failed to read and comprehend what was written.
I never belittled the show. I simply stated what impression it gave me and yes that again
is something of personal opinion. Nothing you can change or should try to change

refference:
I think its fairly common to lose interest in one show when you watch something els.
Though what you're going true is something that is rather a matter of personality.
I watched 3 first episodes of One piece and I thought they were shit and went right back to
naruto and bleach...

Its all a matter of what you like more, the serious anime's or the jokey ones.
Cause from the couple of eps I saw from OP it seemed like a real goof ass show to me.
No offense given ofcource!


I made it a bit bigger, so you might be able to read it this time.

Democracy is good and all but that doesn't mean an individual can just say whatever he want without having through understanding about the topic, just like what you do now...............
Thats what Freedom of speech is all about for a matter of fact.
Saying WHAT you want, WHENEVER you want it, to WHOM you want.
 
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I was trying to help you not sound like a child, my apologies. Like I said, people will take you much more seriously
if you use right spelling and grammar.
Yet again you don't get what I say, I never implied that I don't understand you.
sorry but i don't need your help :)
*yawn* am not saying that you don't understand me am just talking about probability which is the case you comment on something like Vocab and Grammar.......

I'm not mad, I just used a simple stereotypical reference to make my argument clear. As you clearly do not understand
the rest of the things I write, I tried to keep it simple.
There you go again, bragging about how you are not trying to change my opinion but then a moment later you state that
my opinion is WRONG.

litteral definition of the word opinion
=A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
=The belief or views of a person about a particular thing.

Where do you even get the idea that you, as a simple individual are capable of judging MY OPINION
or the way I look at a certain aspect of a topic?
stating that your opinion is wrong is not necessary mean that i want to change your opinion, you can keep that opinion for yourself, am just stating my opinion about yours

"Where do you even get the idea that you, as a simple individual are capable of judging MY OPINION":
you want to know why ? its simply because i know more about the series compared to you, even if you're not asking for it i just have to said it but then again its up to you whether you want to accept it or not

I will simply refer to what i stated in my last comment to counter argument this.
Do you even READ what I say? or TRY to understand what I type? Or are your puny brains just not
capable of comprehending such delicate matter? Please At least try to bring in some fact based arguments
and not just start spouting idiotic sentences.

Yet another perfect example of somebody pulling the meaning of words out of it true
ignoring the context.
This is what I said:

I think its fairly common to lose interest in one show when you watch something els.
Though what you're going true is something that is rather a matter of personality.
I watched 3 first episodes of One piece and I thought they were shit and went right back to
naruto and bleach...

Its all a matter of what you like more, the serious anime's or the jokey ones.
Cause from the couple of eps I saw from OP it seemed like a real goof ass show to me.
No offense given ofcource!


try understanding it a little please and not just guessing what your tiny brains thinks it is.
oh my....... out of it true meaning ? yeah its great and all dude
you can say that its not your intention heck there's no telling if you're telling the truth or not,
all i can say that you're trying to act like you understand what the OP's talking about,
and then you go and give an example about your personal experience which is quite pathetic cause it sounds biased without solid evidence,

and then you comeback with that "matters of personal taste" and surprisingly you pull a fast one and said "the serious anime's or the jokey ones." which is yet again pathetic because people who have seen One Piece know that it was a lot more "serious and deep" compared to Naruto, and just for info that most of OP viewers is over 17++ so its unlikely for mature people to go and watch the "jokey one" surely you judge it wayyyy to fast, you probably need to review your way of judging anime/manga.......

My judgement upon my opinion has been stated for a numerous of times but YET AGAIN you fail
to read what is written on the page.
judgement: Its a matter of personal opinion and nobody should even try to think that
that is a matter they an change. Look up 'Freedom of speech'.
Why I come here to do so? I was simply adding up to the thread owners question and remarks.
Something Which he appreciated, so for the matter of fact the question is, why are you here acting like a
total jackass judging OTHER peoples opinions while the one you should be looking at is your own.
and again i never want to change you OPINION why are so worried about such thing ? damn dude you're so insecure :D
the OP are questioning about people who have experienced the same thing that happened to other people, and you clearly never experience something like that cause you never watch one piece before(what i mean with this is watched the entire series) instead you come here and add something unpleasant about the anime,

let be honest, you come here just because the OP mention something about her liking and enjoying One Piece more than Naruto and its bothered you, but of course you ain't gonna admit that, so lets move on



I can't seem to notice enough how much you have problems with reading, look at the above. I clearly stated
it SEEMED like a less serious show and do not try to give me the crap you pulled before
on the difference between 'being' and seeming' cause. Its a argument little kids pull on their
parents if they can't go on the carrousel. Not something grown people do when discussing
you said "I'm judging my taste of manga/anime to not suit the one brought by OP."
that was fast judgement only after 3 episodehmm, can really guarantee that OP will not suite your taste if you ever continue the series ? well you're not the only one, actually there are tons of people like you in here but when they try to watched it they don't like that anymore in fact they become a hardcore fans, but well perhaps One Piece is to complicated for you since you consider Naruto and Bleach is "serious":)



I think I already stated that I don't know much about the show myself, no need to get a repetitive.
I wasn't gonna ad up anything because I noticed from the beginning that you are that
kind of people that doesn't have the intellect to have a proper discussion with.
and yet here you are replying and insulting me :)





I judged nothing. I ASSUMED something, do you understand what that means?
= Suppose to be the case, without proof

and I never EVER went back on that.
in other way its being ignorant about something, its that what you want to say ?
and of course you'll reply with that" you lacked reading comprehension period" ROFL



People are not bashing me, YOU are TRYING to bash me.
For the matter of fact I even got several rep points for my comments before the bashing and discussing part.
YES! You guessed it right, YOU AGAIN failed to read and comprehend what was written.
I never belittled the show. I simply stated what impression it gave me and yes that again
is something of personal opinion. Nothing you can change or should try to change
i can't blame you on that since One Piece don't really have a good impression at 1st but did you really think that's all One Piece got ? i mean the Manga being the best seller of all time in WSJ means A LOT.

refference:
I think its fairly common to lose interest in one show when you watch something els.
Though what you're going true is something that is rather a matter of personality.
I watched 3 first episodes of One piece and I thought they were shit and went right back to
naruto and bleach...

Its all a matter of what you like more, the serious anime's or the jokey ones.
Cause from the couple of eps I saw from OP it seemed like a real goof ass show to me.
No offense given ofcource!


I made it a bit bigger, so you might be able to read it this time.



no offence they said yet still stating/assuming some lame insult about the series they never said.......
you don't expect anyone to fall for that do you ?
its like you're talking about bad things about your friend in front of him and said to him no hard feeling dude,
you'll probably get a punch in the face LMAO

Thats what Freedom of speech is all about for a matter of fact.
Saying WHAT you want, WHENEVER you want it, to WHOM you want.
true but there's limitation for that, one does not simply listen to mentally challenged person.
 
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