I think Current Sasuke Could Defeat Tobirama

[Touken]

From what I remember, he hasn't. He went into CQC with Obito and tagged him, which he will most likely do with Hebi Sasuke because of Sasuke's fighting style, at that time, revolved around CQC.

He's already placed quite a few seals around already dude. I'd bring up scans but it's too time consuming on an iPad.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Edo tensei summon: hashirama senju minato namikaze hiruzen sarutobi and Madara uchiha(if necessary ) mud stomp all over sasuke.

 

[Cursed Prince]

I'm not sure if I have to draw this for you guys or not.. Reaction =/= being as fast as Sasuke. I stated many times that Tobirama would be capable of reacting to Sasuke's speed, but he will not be capable of running as fast as Sasuke with his base form.

In terms of shunshin speed? Tobirama is obviously faster than Sasuke. Besides, if he was able to move his hands so fast without even using shunshin then that is a testament to his speed. Him also being able to teleport the omnyodon before Minato could even reach it should say something

 

[Filo]

yea i agree sasuke could defeat tobirama now with mid dif

 

[Thundercles]

Before Sasuke fought Deidara, I'd say Sasuke loses medium difficulty, due to lack of feats. After Sasuke Vs. Deidara, Hebi Sasuke can no doubt take Tobirama. Any form of Sasuke after Hebi stomps.. unless someone can tell me Tobirama's counter to Amaterasu.

FTG... How can you possibly say this? Tobirama has Edo Tensei...

 

[Styles]

Your not getting it....

Regardless of what clone, sharingan cannot distinguish the difference of the original and the copy

I thought back in part 1 sasuke told Naruto he could see which one was the real one out of all those clones

dude then look at those points which itachi said to sasuke:-
itachi said madara had brother ( which later prove true)
itachi said madara helped him in uchiha massacre ( which later prove true)
itachi said Ems can be gain by implanting your own brother's eyes ( which later prove true)
itachi said that izuna and madara were equal ( as you all sasuke's fanboys said not confirmed)

if 3 out 4 statements of itachi will later prove to be true then how this can wrong that ''izuna and madara were equal ''


i think i solo'd that thread

But it wasn't Madara it was Obito so that was proven false

 

[iNotorious]

FTG... How can you possibly say this? Tobirama has Edo Tensei...

He developed the technique but we don't know if he does have ninjas on his edo tensei thing?

 

[Cursed Prince]

He developed the technique but we don't know if he does have ninjas on his edo tensei thing?

Woah, your logic sucks :|

 

[iNotorious]

Woah, your logic sucks :|

Well i tried to explain it but english is my second language which it sucks but whatever

 

[Jcub]

Well i tried to explain it but english is my second language which it sucks but whatever

I hear what you are saying, but he can edo himself. Or he is starting off edo. Either way battle is won through attrition. Lets get lazy FTG untill Sasuke gets tried of chasing shadow clones, so far no Eye tech can see the diff between shadow clones. They are all you at the same time, duplicates, just one is the original

I don't see how Sasuke could win, Part 1 Sas was clever. Part two relies on brute force, he was successful against his brother because he knew what his brother could do, he does not have that much knowledge on Tobirama capabilities. Sasuke has skills but they are meaningless to someone who knows your tricks or is to fast to catch or see.

Tobirama grew up fighting the Uchiha clan, I don't think anyone really gets that, Sasuke doesn't have the advantage in speed, skill or tech. He doesn't have decades of warfare knowledge or tricks.

 

[KidGamer65]

lol, what the hell am I reading here? Hebi Sasuke loses to Tobirama.....lmao, anyone who believes he wins needs to put down the cream.

 

[EternalFlame]

Hebi Sasuke = Current Torbirama (Without being Edo)

 

[KidGamer65]

Hebi Sasuke = Current Torbirama (Without being Edo)

Not a chance in hell.

 

[Mishima]

Sasuke doesn't even need PS to stomp Tobirama.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

You do know that Minato was hit with Sasuke and Naruto's FRS+Amaterasu attack and teleported away without taking the flames with him when he and Tobirama did their Mutually Revolving tech. Meaning Tobirama can teleport away and leave even after getting hit by the flames. So Amaterasu can do nothing to Tobirama.

Sasuke's Susanoo cannot hit Tobirama. FTG is faster than arrows and Susanoo projectiles.

Assuming Tobirama has at least one Edo Tensei, he can kill Sasuke with his Continuous Explosions technique which is far larger than summons as big as Gamakichi, larger than Hashi's sealing Gate.

 

[Tobi123]

I think you're wrong.lol

 

[xxSAGExx]

I really do. He has PS now, so he could also redeem himself against the kages.

If it came down to it.

no haha Sasuke loses this one. Sasuke not on Tobirama's level in terms of skill, experience and strategy wise since Tobirama grew up in a time of constant war and fought uchihas stronger than Sasuke his whole life. Tobirama was schooling Sasuke on the Uchihas which shows how little Sasuke knew about his own clan, Knowledge is power in terms of ninjas like Tobirama, Minato, Itachi, Shikaku and so on. Sasuke's speed has not increased at all in shippuden except when he used the CM, he only reacts fast due to the Sharingan's predictive and reading ability which improved as he went from 3 tomoes to MS to EMS.

Tobirama is a great sensor who would just sense Amaterasu before Sasuke use it just like Nagato did with Itachi, Tobirama was even able to sense Hashirama's cells in Orochirama when he focused and he would be focused in a fight. You seem to forget that Madara is strong enough to beat the 5 kages with just MS if he was actually serious, Izuna and Madara were equal as MS and Tobirama beat Izuna meaning he's at the level of fight the 5 kages.

Mark Susanoo and teleport within it whenever he wants since he can teleport a few feet from his mark/seal like Minato.

Sasuke (Hebi) solo's the fluck out of Tobirama. Minato, now that's never going to happen. He can react to Raikage but never will he be able to react to FTG.
Not even Naruto with BSM can react. He can barley sense where Juubito is going and its not even near instant (his flying that is)

Wrong, Izuna>MS Sasuke and might have been stronger than EMS Sasuke so Tobirama is stronger than MS Sasuke for sure. Sasuke still new with his EMS and he's still not on Tobirama's, Madara's, Izuna's or Hashirama's level. Sasuke couldn't react to Raikage's speed with MS, EMS in unknown yet and yes Naruto can react, his KM speed was compared to Minato's speed. Naruto was able to react to A's fastest attack just like Minato, at point blank range. BSM would be even faster but you seem to forget that Naruto is still new to these powers just like Sasuke is with his. Naruto only used his full speed 3x and it was said he doesn't have as much control over it like Minato. Naruto as getting the hang of his new sensing ability (combination of SM and BM), you can expect him to be great at it in first use with no training.

Tobirama had confidence to fight Madara alone and was going to go by himself and the last he knew about Madara was that he had EMS. Clearly Tobirama felt like he could handle EMS Madara alone, people seem to forget the powerup from MS to EMS isn't that big overall. It takes away all of the side effects for MS, increase the power of the MS jutsus and lowers the chakra usage. Madara needed Kurama to fight Hashirama which shows MS Madara and EM Madara weren't that far apart and Tobirama kill Izuna who was equal to MS Madara.

Tobirama's FTG isn't as versatile and strong as Minato's, he has to come into physical contact through means of base speed before his FTG would even be a threat to Sasuke. Tobirama isn't as fast as Hebi Sasuke with feats, and Sasuke has typically been straight forward and to the point with his fights, at least when they're beginning. Kirin, Gōryūka, Chidori Nagashi, CM level 2, Sharingan battle perception/chakra perception.

Tobirama isn't beating Hebi Sasuke.

You do know you're wrong right? Tobirama is a edo, he didn't have anything to fear and was fast enough to mark Juubito as they fought while even Minato couldn't remark him. Tobirama is faster than Sasuke period, You saw Madara speed when he went off on the alliance right? Izuna was equal to him (EMS doesn't increase speed) and Tobirama killed Izuna which place him stronger and faster seeing how he strike him with a fatal blow.

You do know Kishi isn't making Hashirama, Madara, Tobirama, Minato or Hiruzen go all out to their full potential right? He' focusing on Naruto and Sasuke which is shown by Tobirama and Minato supporting Naruto and Sasuke as they attack and Hashirama's clone aren't even fighting Juubito.

I agree that based on what weve seen Sasuke could defeat Tobirama. Considering his grudge against Madara he likely has a counter or two for Uchiha techs up his sleeve however. I would hope so at least.

Tobirama fought Uchihas all his life, he knows things that Sasuke didn't and even told Sasuke about how the sharingan awakes. Tobirama, Izuna, Madara and Hashirama are all one the same level which Sasuke is not at. Just like how Kage level varies amoung Orochimaru, Itachi, Jiraiya, ect; the same goes for the level Tobirama group are on. Madara with just MS and serious can beat all kages and Tobirama beat Izuna who was equal to MS Madara.

Izuna is completely feat-less. We have no knowledge on his abilties besides the fact that he was Madara's brother.

We know Izuna and Madara were equal in term of power and Tobirama beat him. The gap between MS and EMS isn't that big and doesn't increase overall stats, just MS power. Everyone just basing on what they see in the war which Kishi has focused on Naruto, Sasuke and Obito. For real, look at Minato, he's been hyped to be the smartest ninja in Naruto yet Tobirama seems more battle smart which can be due to his battle experience. None of the Hoakges are taking staring roles in the fight, they're only acting as support because it's not about them.

Tobirama was knew Sasuke had EMS yet still threaten to kill him back when they first met and was going to go solo fight Madara. Tobirama and Hashirama aren't even at full power, Tobirama stated they were near full power. He has sensing ability that would go along with ftg to evade any one of Sasuke's attacks.

 

[Sageof7Path]

He would probably get owned but Sasuke can draw if he fights Kakashi.

 

[dario14]

LoL a kage lises to a 17year old ems user, we have only seen sasukes feast. Tobiramatook Down a ms user.

 

[Ababeel]

I think MS Sasuke may win against Tobirama. EMS Sasuke will win without a doubt.