I think Current Sasuke Could Defeat Tobirama

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See this is were you fail in this perception

Your comparing ftg with minato, not sasuke

The fact that Tobimaru mastered shadow clone doesn't mean anything to you?

He can send a clone with ftg

You never took into consideration that he can use edo tensei, and use a chain of explosions with any amount of edo tensei.

All it takes is one touch from a clone/edo tensei and sasuke is done.

ftg is space time justu, get that through your head <-----Sasuke can't beat space-time speed

Sasuke flawlessly K.O.'d how many Ninja?..without the intent to kill and without being touched. You honestly think a shadow clone is going to touch Sasuke..? Aight'.

Do you honestly think he's going to be able to just stop in the midst of battle and use Edo Tensei without Sasuke intervening..? Sasuke isn't being touched by the clones, Tobirama's FTG is useless unless he can actually mark Sasuke.. which isn't happening.

And stop with the little insults, they're petty and make you look foolish.
 

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Sasuke can beat Shitrama in his Hebi level:|
 

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madara >>>> sasuke its a fact

if and only if itachi lied then why cant you provide me manga reference which states that izuna < madara ?? i have facts and you sasuke's fanboys have only dreams


​tobirama will fodderize sasuke low diff. U_U fact

No. Do you know what you're doing? You're using shitty A > B > C logic that doesn't apply to Naruto. Unless you are going to use actual and good arguments instead of this shitty logic, leave.
 

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Let's be serious here Kaaant. The Hiraishin marking is made out of Chakra or are you trying to imply that both Minato and Tobirama carry an invisible magical marker and that they can draw markings in less than a second?

He's saying because Tobirama K.O.'d a MS Izuna which may or may not even be stronger than Sasuke, that Sasuke would also fall for the same trick. Lol.
 

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He's saying because Tobirama K.O.'d a MS Izuna which may or may not even be stronger than Sasuke, that Sasuke would also fall for the same trick. Lol.
Fact is, there's nothing Sasuke can do which'll hit Tobirama.
 

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no it does not.

Nothing is comfrimed on izuna.

except that he was killed by a slash that looks like he was caught off guard by.

its not like tobirama went all out, they were sword fighting

lol lol then look at this :-
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as the hashirama killed madara with just sword then that means madara and hashirama was fighting with swords LOL just lol .........you sasuke's fanboys really have no facts as i have facts but you sasuke's fanboys have dream So keep dreaming :cool:
 

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Let's be serious here Kaaant. The Hiraishin marking is made out of Chakra or are you trying to imply that both Minato and Tobirama carry an invisible magical marker and that they can draw markings in less than a second?

Rehashing what I say doesn't make you sound sophisticated.

The easiest example to give is Obito's standoff against Minato. If your speculation was correct, why did Obito allow a Kunai, seemingly (If we follow your logic) teeming with Chakra to pass through him? Why did he not even consider the markings on the Kunai (Let's not forget Obito knew about the Kunai since he was a child.)?
I can list numerous other examples of such happenings. Fact of the matter is no alarm bells went off for Obito.

Does it posses chakra? Most likely. Is there proof an Uchiha can see it? Absolutely none, if anything there's evidence against it.

He's saying because Tobirama K.O.'d a MS Izuna which may or may not even be stronger than Sasuke, that Sasuke would also fall for the same trick. Lol.

Where did I ever state this? Are you trolling me here?
 

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Fact is, there's nothing Sasuke can do which'll hit Tobirama.

fact is this statement would make you a troll.


alot of ppl need to put aside there hate for sasuke and realize he is very skilled.
 

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lol lol then look at this :-
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as the hashirama killed madara with just sword then that means madara and hashirama was fighting with swords

confrimed troll with this post.
 

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lol, this proves nothing. You had shown a scan of Deidara almost getting blitzed and that's about it. Juubito is far, far greater than Sasuke in speed and he still reacted to him. And oh, faster than him? Like what Kaant said before, Tobirama got to the battlefield before him. Saying that Tobirama can't react to Sasuke's speed is pure nonsense.

1000? Did you just pull that out of your bottom? Him beating fodder shinobi also proves nothing when we're talking about a mid-high Kage level shinobi here.

I don't believe you are getting what I'm saying here at all. He was able to react to Obito's speed and he will be able to react to Sasuke's speed, but he himself lacks the base speed that would allow him to be on Sasuke's level when it comes to base speed. Hiraishin would put him above Sasuke when it comes to speed, but the fact that he can abuse this speed only via markings which Sasuke can see due to the Sharingan won't help him much.

As for the Otogakure shinobi, I was merely pointing out Sasuke's superiority in close combat which would help him not to get tagged by Tobirama.


As I've said before, Tobirama can definitely keep up with Sasuke's speed. Saying otherwise is disregarding Tobirama's feats.

Tobirama's non Hiraishin speed feats don't allow him to do so.
 

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crossroad and the rest of the thread already is :|

Personal i think if hebi sasuke wins, its mid high diff.


Okay good for you, you have your own personal opinion

There is a difference between using facts and your own personal opinion.

The fact that Tobimaru is second Hokage would mean anything to you?

^^He wouldn't be kage if he was weak becaue Hashirama was already died by then, Madara would of took advantage of that too.
 

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Implying that Sasuke wouldn't be defeated by the time he's launched numerous fireballs into the air.

Even if he does manage that, by that time, Tobirama would have a number of Hiraishin seals on the battlefield; Kirin isn't touching Tobirama if he has seals on the battlefield.
 

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Okay good for you, you have your own personal opinion

There is a difference between using facts and your own personal opinion.

The fact that Tobimaru is second Hokage would mean anything to you?

^^He wouldn't be kage if he was weak becaue Hashirama was already died by then, Madara would of took advantage of that too.

lol dont get mad at me boi.

im not the one who started

hebi sasuke> tobirama

get mad at the others who have theorys on how sasuke wins

Implying that Sasuke wouldn't be defeated by the time he's launched numerous fireballs into the air.

Even if he does manage that, by that time, Tobirama would have a number of Hiraishin seals on the battlefield; Kirin isn't touching Tobirama if he has seals on the battlefield.

but you said sasuke has nothing that could even hurt tobirama.
 

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Where did I ever state this? Are you trolling me here?

Half-trolling, trying to be a little comical to ease the debate a bit.

It was implied in your post that since Tobirama used to fight Uchiha's, that he'd figure out a way to mark Sasuke due to his battle prowess and experience. Though, I would say Sasuke is the exception due to feats and the fact that he's considered a prodigy and the only Uchiha to be hyped up and surpass Madara.
 
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Itachi Uchiha was lying, there is no way in hell he could have recorded what they did and what they've seen. It would defy even Naruto logic, be for real.
Itachi is good at deceiving and lying. Hashirama also lied about him being better, its a lie.

dude then look at those points which itachi said to sasuke:-
itachi said madara had brother ( which later prove true)
itachi said madara helped him in uchiha massacre ( which later prove true)
itachi said Ems can be gain by implanting your own brother's eyes ( which later prove true)
itachi said that izuna and madara were equal ( as you all sasuke's fanboys said not confirmed)

if 3 out 4 statements of itachi will later prove to be true then how this can wrong that ''izuna and madara were equal ''


i think i solo'd that thread :cool:
 

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Rehashing what I say doesn't make you sound sophisticated.

The easiest example to give is Obito's standoff against Minato. If your speculation was correct, why did Obito allow a Kunai, seemingly (If we follow your logic) teeming with Chakra to pass through him? Why did he not even consider the markings on the Kunai (Let's not forget Obito knew about the Kunai since he was a child.)?
I can list numerous other examples of such happenings. Fact of the matter is no alarm bells went off for Obito.

Does it posses chakra? Most likely. Is there proof an Uchiha can see it? Absolutely none, if anything there's evidence against it.

Do Uchiha have the ability to see Chakra and this markings are made out of Chakra. As for your Obito argument, you have to realize that Obito thought that he could perhaps grab Minato before he teleports. Obito at that time was cocky enough to think that he would be capable of grabbing Minato and warping him with Kamui before he teleports. [ ] He saw the marking, but he most likely thought that he'll be the faster one which was a terrible mistake.
 

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I don't believe you are getting what I'm saying here at all. He was able to react to Obito's speed and he will be able to react to Sasuke's speed, but he himself lacks the base speed that would allow him to be on Sasuke's level when it comes to base speed. Hiraishin would put him above Sasuke when it comes to speed, but the fact that he can abuse this speed only via markings which Sasuke can see due to the Sharingan won't help him much.

As for the Otogakure shinobi, I was merely pointing out Sasuke's superiority in close combat which would help him not to get tagged by Tobirama.




Tobirama's non Hiraishin speed feats don't allow him to do so.
I'm not even sure if you're reading my post correctly. In CQC, Tobirama would beat Sasuke and land a Hiraishin seal on him too.

Also, you know that Hiraishin has nothing to do with speed? It's instantaneous because it's teleportation. What scan are you referring to regarding Obito's speed? And I don't even think Obito has any speed feats; he relies on Kamui, which again, is teleportation, and teleportation has nothing to do with speed. I'm repeating myself here but I'll make another point; any Hokage except from old Hiruzen and possibly Tsunade can react to Sasuke's speed.
 
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