[Discussion] I hope Oda never pulls Child of Prophecy/Incarnation of Ashura bs with Luffy ever

[Jᴀʏ]

Also, what did Shanks give Luffy besides the straw hat? This is silly to say that just because Luffy is friends with a Yonko that that automatically means anything.

The damn devil fruit lmfao. Also just cause you mentioned this an Island was friends with a Yonko and entire island, and nobody messed with them. Just imagine the type of clout Luffy would have if he threw the names he had around. Dragon, Garp, Shanks, Sabo.

That has nothing to do with what I quoted you on. You said the end justifies the means, and I replied with...if you want to write a shitty story. That holds.

When I said the end justify the means I meant from the beginning. As in if someone gets a power and they use it and its fun then who tf cares?

 

[Dannie]

LOL what is a rubber DF to a nine tailed demon fox? Luffy worked to improve his DF powers.
The only thing Naruto did was befriend the Kyubi after Bee and Kushina helped him.

smh

 

[loj]

THE kyuubi didnt want to help this ninja! In fact he literally took over him, made it harder for him to use Sage Mode. Naruto had to steal chakra from him to get the Chakra Mode and he had to befriend him for Tail Beast chakra mode.

And that's hardwork? Befriending someone compared to invent attacks for DF?

 

[ToshiZO]

When I said the end justify the means I meant from the beginning. As in if someone gets a power and they use it and its fun then who tf cares?

People who want a quality story.

 

[Jᴀʏ]

And that's hardwork? Befriending someone compared to invent attacks for DF?

He didnt fully have the power thats my point, just like how Luffy didnt fully have the power he had to develop it.

 

[loj]

He didnt fully have the power thats my point, just like how Luffy didnt fully have the power he had to develop it.

But Naruto developed nothing hardworking with Kurama smh Luffy whole manga develops new things >_>

 

[Dannie]

Gonna wait for you to explain how this matters.



Luffy would have died without the colloseum fighters and Law. I'm not making this up, this an exact fact from the manga.


He worked for control over Kurama so

Dawg, It matters because that's the main point of this entire discussion. Give Luffy an endless supply of energy and he'll stop training as well.

He didn't "work" to control Kurama. Bee and Kushina helped him, they had a few flashbacks and Naruto befriended him. How hard is it to fist bump some Bijuu and then become their friends?

 

[Jᴀʏ]

LOL what is a rubber DF to a nine tailed demon fox? Luffy worked to improve his DF powers.
The only thing Naruto did was befriend the Kyubi after Bee and Kushina helped him.

smh

Um... Werent u the one that said Luffy beat enel all by himself that rubber df was the reason. Any ability has potential, it depends on the person that wields it. Look at Buggy, Chop Chop would be an insane DF, but he cant wirld it probably no shade to Buggy Sama Praise Our Lord and Savior but you know ehat i mean.

 

[loj]

How's Naruto a hardworker compared to Luffy is beyond me...

 

[Punk Hazard]

Dawg, It matters because that's the main point of this entire discussion. Give Luffy an endless supply of energy and he'll stop training as well.

This argument makes zero sense considering even with this endless supply of energy, Naruto still trained.

He didn't "work" to control Kurama. Bee and Kushina helped him

Then Luffy didn't work for the 2 years on Rukushina because Rayleigh helped him.

How hard is it to fist bump some Bijuu and then become their friends?

Except Naruto actually fought Kurama to gain his power, practiced using the chakra cloak, and had to adjust to the power in active combat, which is the same concept as practice.

 

[Jᴀʏ]

How's Naruto a hardworker compared to Luffy is beyond me...

Not that their equal Naruto worked a little less I'll agree but it too work. He didn't just get all his abilities.

 

[Dannie]

Um... Werent u the one that said Luffy beat enel all by himself that rubber df was the reason. Any ability has potential, it depends on the person that wields it. Look at Buggy, Chop Chop would be an insane DF, but he cant wirld it probably no shade to Buggy Sama Praise Our Lord and Savior but you know ehat i mean.

I said Luffy defeated most of his opponents with his DF and Haki. Clearly his DF has been apart of him for most of his life so how could he fight without it.

 

[Jᴀʏ]

I said Luffy defeated most of his opponents with his DF and Haki. Clearly his DF has been apart of him for most of his life so how could he fight without it.

So ur saying people didnt help him with Haki?? Naruto was implanted like half an hour after he was born.

 

[loj]

This argument makes zero sense considering even with this endless supply of energy, Naruto still trained.


Then Luffy didn't work for the 2 years on Rukushina because Rayleigh helped him.


Except Naruto actually fought Kurama to gain his power, practiced using the chakra cloak, and had to adjust to the power in active combat, which is the same concept as practice.

LMAO Ray clearly didn't hold Luffy's hand,he was just teaching him how to do things and left him alone with beasts later and that what Bee and Kushina did was clear help.

Not that their equal Naruto worked a little less I'll agree but it too work. He didn't just get all his abilities.

That's the whole argument Luffy>Naruto hardwork

 

[Jᴀʏ]

LMAO Ray clearly didn't hold Luffy's hand,he was just teaching him how to do this and left him alone with beasts later and that what Bee and Kushina did was clear help.

That's the whole argument Luffy>Naruto hardwork

But u guys are making it seem as though Naruto was handed literally all his abilities, your makking it seem like from day one Luffy been grinding when thats obviously not the case.

 

[Dannie]

This argument makes zero sense considering even with this endless supply of energy, Naruto still trained.


Then Luffy didn't work for the 2 years on Rukushina because Rayleigh helped him.


Except Naruto actually fought Kurama to gain his power, practiced using the chakra cloak, and had to adjust to the power in active combat, which is the same concept as practice.

Naruto threw a bunch of Rasengans at Kurama while Bee and Kushina tied him up.

Oh yes, much work, much work Riker.

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[loj]

But u guys are making it seem as though Naruto was handed literally all his abilities, your makking it seem like from day one Luffy been grinding when thats obviously not the case.

Since it's mostly true.Naruto only really worked for SM and that Wind Rasenshuriken,Kurma was ended product.

 

[Punk Hazard]

But u guys are making it seem as though Naruto was handed literally all his abilities, your makking it seem like from day one Luffy been grinding when thats obviously not the case.

We've clearly been reading the wrong manga. Remember when Naruto went to bed as an infant, and then woke up the next day with Sage Mode, Shadow Clones, Rasengan, Rasenshuriken, and control over Kurama square in his lap?

 

[Jᴀʏ]

Since it's mostly true.Naruto only really worked for SM and that Wind Rasenshuriken,Kurma was ended product.

So you can't really make an argument until we've seen Luffy fully develop from the way things are looking it seems as though he was just blessed with Haki from his parents and trained under Rayleigh for it.

 

[loj]

So you can't really make an argument until we've seen Luffy fully develop from the way things are looking it seems as though he was just blessed with Haki from his parents and trained under Rayleigh for it.

Nearly everyone has CoA and CoO so that's a shit argument as well