[Discussion] I hope Oda never pulls Child of Prophecy/Incarnation of Ashura bs with Luffy ever

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We've clearly been reading the wrong manga. Remember when Naruto went to bed as an infant, and then woke up the next day with Sage Mode, Shadow Clones, Rasengan, Rasenshuriken, and control over Kurama square in his lap?

Lol Right, meanwhile Luffy grinding to stretch his arm, and blow air through his thumb. That really takes creativity! But Sexy harem Jutsu doesnt?
 

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We've clearly been reading the wrong manga. Remember when Naruto went to bed as an infant, and then woke up the next day with Sage Mode, Shadow Clones, Rasengan, Rasenshuriken, and control over Kurama square in his lap?

Rasengans, SM, and Shadow Clones are the only things he truly worked for. Everything else was given to him. He never worked for Kurama. That shit was given to him since day one.
 

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Lol Right, meanwhile Luffy grinding to stretch his arm, and blow air through his thumb. That really takes creativity! But Sexy harem Jutsu doesnt?

You forgetting that Luffy sees CP9 use Soru, the very first time he ever saw it, and then DIDN'T learn it in the span of a few hours, even developing Gear 2 in the same time to execute it, but spent years and years of hard, daily training to develop Gear 2 and use Soru.


Rasengans, SM, and Shadow Clones are the only things he truly worked for. Everything else was given to him. He never worked for Kurama. That shit was given to him since day one.

What are these everything elses? That shit is all he uses.
 

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Lol Right, meanwhile Luffy grinding to stretch his arm, and blow air through his thumb. That really takes creativity! But Sexy harem Jutsu doesnt?

It takes skill since Luffy was all over the place when he got his DF.
 

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It takes skill since Luffy was all over the place when he got his DF.

Cause he was eight?? Ninja does it really take effort to swing his arm back to punch someone? Naruto wasnt all over the place in the beginning??? Did he not fail the academy test three times???
 

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Cause he was eight?? Ninja does it really take effort to swing his arm back to punch someone?

Does it matter how old was he? He still worked hard to make it work lol just proves how much Luffy needed to work to have the strength he has now.
 

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What are these everything elses? That shit is all he uses.

90% of the war was him spamming Kurama. Madara - Rikodu SM. Kaguya - Rikodu SM.
Sasuke - more Kurama spam and RSM.
 

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90% of the war was him spamming Kurama. Madara - Rikodu SM. Kaguya - Rikodu SM.
Sasuke - more Kurama spam and RSM.

"Wah, wah, the war."

So one day outweighs 17 years of training? Good, then that one day that Luffy saw Soru and developed Gear 2, one of his strongest abilities, negates the 12 years of training for the Gomu Gomu no Mi.
 

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Luffy was absolute garbage with his fruit when he was 7(his age when he first got it). Luffy trained every day learning how to use it starting with learning how to stretch at will. This took 10 years. Throughout the story, Luffy trained and developed stuff on his own. Rayleigh taught him how to use haki and Luffy had to figure out to use his DF better. Every "power-up" Luffy gained has been him using his combat genius to develop new techniques.

Naruto trained his shadow clones & rasengan. Spent 2 1/2 years with Jiraiya. Later trained for sage mode. Naruto had to defeat Kurama to gain an INSANE power up. Naruto's next 2 power ups that made him god were just handed to him.

Naruto's hard work pales in comparison to Luffy.
 

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"Wah, wah, the war."

So one day outweighs 17 years of training? Good, then that one day that Luffy saw Soru and developed Gear 2, one of his strongest abilities, negates the 12 years of training for the Gomu Gomu no Mi.

Why do you keep trying to turn it back to Luffy? Unlike Naruto, Luffy worked and trained for his DF and Haki. He wasn't sent to some unknown space and blessed with new powers.

Stop.
 

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You're also implying that Naruto trained for 10 years like Luffy, lmao no, stop.
 

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Why do you keep trying to turn it back to Luffy? Unlike Naruto, Luffy worked and trained for his DF and Haki. He wasn't sent to some unknown space and blessed with new powers.

Stop.

Naruto trained and worked for his clones and Rasengans.

It's funny how you say Naruto was handed shit the entire time, but you only have that one day to use as your example. Probably just a coincidence...
 

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Naruto trained and worked for his clones and Rasengans.

It's funny how you say Naruto was handed shit the entire time, but you only have that one day to use as your example. Probably just a coincidence...

He was handed Kurama, and considering he used it 80% of his lifetime, yes, I think it's safe to say he didn't earn shit but Rasengans, Kagebunshins and SM.

Stop whining.
 

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He was handed Kurama, and considering he used it 80% of his lifetime, yes, I think it's safe to say he didn't earn shit but Rasengans, Kagebunshins and SM.

Stop whining.

The bolded is exactly all he uses.

Naruto gets a Kurama/Hagoromo power boost in one day without training? It's terrible.

Luffy gets a power boost from Gear 2 in the span of a few hours without training? This is awesome, what a hard worker.

What a bunch of clowns.
 

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Are you ****ing serious or what? Luffy gaining gear 2 was the representation of his own DF powers not to mention no ghost didn't save him from death and give him those powers.

Just stop.
 

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Not to mention, it was already mentioned before Luffy got to Ennies Lobby that he learned a new move while Kishi just pushed this Ashura bullshit in our faces.

Holy ****.
 

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Are you ****ing serious or what? Luffy gaining gear 2 was the representation of his own DF powers not to mention no ghost didn't save him from death and give him those powers.

Just stop.

Keep whining about Naruto gaining tremendous boosts in a single day without training then finding excuses for Luffy doing the same thing with Gear 2. Makes your rhetoric look real good.

Either power boosts with no training is all bad, or it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose when it's cool and when it's cheap when the concept is the same all around.
 

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mfw Luffy never gained any asspull powerups.

Goddamn, go back and read the war arc and Ennies Lobby buddy
 

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Yo this has been over.
 

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This niquh seriously trying to compare these 2 as if they're the same. What a joke. You are basically telling me that Luffy learning G2 is an asspull.
 
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