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Also, the difference between Blu-Ray and HD DVD (which X-Box 360 uses) is that Blu-Ray is capable of packing a whole lot more data and memory (about 8 times the size of a normal DVD) than HD DVD which basically focuses more on graphical texture, quality output and prime picture definition.

Regardless though, I was very disappointed with PS3's Prince of Persia. And, there are a lot of games on X-Box 360 which are exceptionally good (i.e. Gears of War 2 and Ninja Blade). But, to play Live with it, you need $ (at least from what I've heard). And, that's why I chose PS3. xD
i like the wii but its a party system if your a hardcore gamer stay away from it. graphically its in last (when compared to the ps3 and 360) and the user interface via wii mote is not that great the console itself may have outsold the other two, but only because it appeals to a wider audience. (aka exercise for old people) but their games minus mk wii, ssbb, and twilight princess dont sell very well

and it sold so well because alot of people bought it under the omg its a wii impression
 

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PS3 and 360 have their up and downs like all consoles stop making a war out of it
i have both ... well 360 got busted a week ago T_T
and i say this
PS3 perfomance wise is much better than 360
360 online community, though its Pay To Play has a better comunity and better games... games at the moment

I myself enjoy my PS3 more... not becoz i am a sony boy or crap... i mean Halo is much better than any other Exclusive FPS than Sony has ever had and I accept it... It?s just that the future games that are coming out for Sony are going to have more... enhancing features (and better games by 2011) for example FF VERSUS XIII graphics totally r.a.p.e upside down 360 graphics and in my opinion will be best RPG of the year of 2010

Nomura stated that FFXIII for PS3 WILL have slightly better graphics.

and no, it?s not all about graphics
i mean I love Tales of Phantasia for SNES
I love all of FF saga as I am playing them all
I love Golden Sun which is for GBA

and I do play arcade games

but in my opinion is that if you want to get REALLY good games, especially RPG kinda games get the PS3 as by 2011 it?s going to get an incredible line up
 

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Also, the difference between Blu-Ray and HD DVD (which X-Box 360 uses) is that Blu-Ray is capable of packing a whole lot more data and memory (about 8 times the size of a normal DVD) than HD DVD which basically focuses more on graphical texture, quality output and prime picture definition.

Regardless though, I was very disappointed with PS3's Prince of Persia. And, there are a lot of games on X-Box 360 which are exceptionally good (i.e. Gears of War 2 and Ninja Blade). But, to play Live with it, you need $ (at least from what I've heard). And, that's why I chose PS3. xD
The argument with Blu-Ray has been and past, but i'll refresh you, Blu-Ray, sounds amazing, and has lots of potential, but it's wasted, believe me, there isn't a single game released to date, that has used the entire capacity of the disk, and if i am wrong, and it is all filled with graphics enhancements, then imo, it's a waste of space, when they make a game that fits on a 4/8 gig xbox disk, meaning they use their spare 42 gig's solely on graphics enhancements? Honestly, i'd prefer a game that lasts 8 times longer, rather than one that is slightly more graphically impressive...

Regarding the price of xbox live, it's only ?30, for a years subscription, after a month, when the next pay check comes in, you've already forgotten you paid for it.
The only problem with having to pay for it, is that you feel more obliged to play it, to the point it looks like your addicted.

Regarding the Wii tech argument. Loads of people are putting both Sony and Microsoft down after the announcement of their new tech at E3, everyones saying "uhhhh they just copied Wii lolololol FAIL", in some respects that is true, but it happens all the time, everywhere, and as Chavez mentioned, even Wii copied, motion sensors have been around for ages and ages, anyone played time cop in an arcade? with the motion sensor guns? exactly. Regardless of that, Sony and Microsoft's tech is very different from Nintendo's, Nintendo uses motion sensor, Sony and Microsoft are using motion capture, Sony is basically using a revamped Eye Toy, the software of the camera, pics up the light on the end of the controller, and coverts that into readable data, making things happen on the screen. Microsoft's "Project Natal" is miles ahead of both Nitendo and Sony, they are using a similar motion capture camera tech to Sony's Eye Toy, except the programming is so advanced that it's said to even be able to read eye movements, not only does it have motion capture, but it also has speech and facial recognition.
 
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Microsoft's "Project Natal" is miles ahead of both Nitendo and Sony, they are using a similar motion capture camera tech to Sony's Eye Toy, except the programming is so advanced that it's said to even be able to read eye movements, not only does it have motion capture, but it also has speech and facial recognition.
I figure that such a controller would be very expensive. Imagine how high the resolution of the camera would have to be.
 

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Microsoft's "Project Natal" is miles ahead of both Nitendo and Sony, they are using a similar motion capture camera tech to Sony's Eye Toy, except the programming is so advanced that it's said to even be able to read eye movements, not only does it have motion capture, but it also has speech and facial recognition.
this tech and the programs required to run them are not cheap and neither is this controller and its kinda pointless to put all that security in a controller no one stores important documents on a console
 

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wooooooooow,
you have to admit the PS3 has really high performance
and the PS3 graphics are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then the Xbox 360 !!
Down here:

Actually, the PS3 (with 8 CPU's) is capable of bringing out a lot more performance than the XBox 360 (which has 1 Triple Core CPU). But yeah, you already mentioned it yourself, it lacks good developers that can push it's potential.
 

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Interesting article for people interested in the xbox natal,basically it will come standard with the xbox (so you won't have to pay a fortune on top) it will just mean most likely that the console price will go up =/ also that the new xbox console won't be released till late next year really as they are hoping that HD tv's are more widespread than they are at this moment in time.(Me personally I think it may be the new 600hz tv's which catch every little detail which have only just been released and are meant to be the best around atm)
 

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IMO because of the lack of good third party games, the PS3 is far behind the Xbox 360. I will concede that the PS3 has a higher potential and Microsoft screwed the pooch with the three red lights of death fiasco. but with the amount of good third party games, as well as great games coming from microsoft its self the 360 is far ahead of the PS3. Save yourself a hundred bucks or so and get a 360
 

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wooooooooow,
you have to admit the PS3 has really high performance
and the PS3 graphics are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then the Xbox 360 !!
Graphics aren't everything.

Xbox is better than the PS3 for gaming.

Sure, PS3 has better hardware, but there hasn't been any games good enough to push that hardware to use.

Yes, PSN is free, but it's terrible compared to Xbox Live. And it's only 50$ for an entire year.

We've got more exclusives, we've got a cheaper console, we've got less system issues, we don't have to install games to our hard drive to play them, face it, Xbox owns.

And don't even try the RROD argument, you can fix those yourself VERY easily for around 10 bucks.

(I've fixed mine before.)
 
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Yes, PSN is free, but it's terrible compared to Xbox Live. And it's only 50$ for an entire year.
Actually, PSN is better in my opinion. Sure, XBox Live has the achievement system, but PSN is lag free.

We've got more exclusives, we've got a cheaper console, we've got less system issues, we don't have to install games to our hard drive to play them, face it, Xbox owns.
PS3 never had any system issues to begin with, it's not required to install any games at all, and the XBox 360 console is cheaper because the hardware simply is extremely inferior to the PS3's. Irrelevant arguments won't cut the job here.
 

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Actually, PSN is better in my opinion. Sure, XBox Live has the achievement system, but PSN is lag free.



PS3 never had any system issues to begin with, it's not required to install any games at all, and the XBox 360 console is cheaper because the hardware simply is extremely inferior to the PS3's. Irrelevant arguments won't cut the job here.
You say irrelevant arguements yet the wii has the worst graphics of all 3 and yet has the best sales because of it being diverse and the inginuity behind the ''get fit'' idea they are implementing and with the target marketing that they have aimed it at,mainly family orientated,kids,older people,and people looking to get fit i.e. heavier people.PS3 did have issues as mentioned with the 40gb system which they stopped making,people go on about the ring of death blah blah blah but we have the xbox elite which doesn't really have that problem.Just like PS3 they both have upgraded the software to stop the problems.Whats the point in having the hardware if they aren't going to use it?Microsoft have thought smart,its a business plan just like with mobile phones,they had the technology for the iphone years before they actually released it but what they will do is give you slight modifications and upping the price of the console/phone so that they can make a profit.IMO sony have shot themselves in the foot really,as they won't get as much profit and won't leave room for improvement on the next console.Think about it they have all this 'superior' software already that they don't use so they have lost out if they don't use it,so would be pointless making a new console but just upgrading the gamer software to match the capabilities of the console.(Which in the time its been out they really haven't done) Whereas the xbox has a taken wiser approach in using the capabilities of the console and being cost effective.Business=supply and demand if its cheaper to make and sells well means more profit i.e. wii and xbox 360 (internationally).All in all to summarise xbox will crap on sony once the new console comes out as the game designers for xbox make full use of the capabilities of the console and are more diverse than that associated with sony this shows in games available for them.Unless sony pick up their game plan in making more/and better games then xbox natal will demolish it.
 
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You say irrelevant arguements yet the wii has the worst graphics of all 3 and yet has the best sales because of it being diverse and the inginuity behind the ''get fit'' idea they are implementing and with the target marketing that they have aimed it at,mainly family orientated,kids,older people,and people looking to get fit i.e. heavier people.
Which doesn't relate to the subject at all.


PS3 did have issues as mentioned with the 40gb system which they stopped making,people go on about the ring of death blah blah blah but we have the xbox elite which doesn't really have that problem.Just like PS3 they both have upgraded the software to stop the problems.
If you're referring to the Blu-Ray reader problem, a faulty Blu-Ray diode doesn't compare to molten solders.

Whats the point in having the hardware if they aren't going to use it? Microsoft have thought smart,its a business plan just like with mobile phones,they had the technology for the iphone years before they actually released it but what they will do is give you slight modifications and upping the price of the console/phone so that they can make a profit.
Er... Have you ever heard of the term 'Future Proof'? The PS3 is capable of delivering much more performance than the XBox 360 without trouble. In fact, games designed for the XBox 360 makes solders on the motherboard melt, causing the RROD. The PS3 however, has no trouble being used as a supercomputer without coming anywhere near as warm as the XBox 360. This means that the PS3 is future proof and that Sony won't have to release a new console as quickly as Microsoft. Quality goes over Quantity.



IMO sony have shot themselves in the foot really,as they won't get as much profit and won't leave room for improvement on the next console.
They don't have to, nothing requires them to make something better already, thus making the PS3 future proof.

Think about it they have all this 'superior' software already that they don't use so they have lost out if they don't use it,so would be pointless making a new console but just upgrading the gamer software to match the capabilities of the console.
I take you are referring to 'Hardware'? They have brought a completely superior console on the market, that actually gives them advantages:

- Game developers can spend more time on high end games, whereas Microsoft first has to release one or two more consoles till they reach the same amount of performance and their waiting line has yet to start, while Sony is already having games in development that puts their console to the test.

- Professional scientific organizations can buy arrays of PS3 hardware to use as their main processing units. Sony delivers them the necessary software (which brings in additional money as well), making their console look extra good on the commercial market.

- They have invested in Blu-Ray, which is more expensive, but with more success. Microsoft has failed investing into HD-DVD as it can't compete to Blu-Ray's standard of 54GB space.

- They have included other expensive modules such as a wireless connection, making people able to stream media to their television, rendering regular multimedia computers unnecessary.

- Backwards compatibility is superior to the XBox 360 as well.



(Which in the time its been out they really haven't done) Whereas the xbox has taken wiser approach in using the capabilities of the console and being cost effective.Business=supply and demand if its cheaper to make and sells well means more profit i.e. wii and xbox 360 (internationally).
It seems that you are only aware of a single marketing technique, which Microsoft and Nintendo currently happen to apply, but there's more to commercial marketing you know.


All in all to summarise xbox will crap on sony once the new console comes out as the game designers for xbox make full use of the capabilities of the console and are more diverse than that associated with sony this shows in games available for them.Unless sony pick up their game plan in making more/and better games then xbox natal will demolish it.
Sony doesn't make games at all, you're misinformed. And NATAL will cost a fortune if they're going to do something as iris identification on such a distance, it would require a very high resolution camera. So they either overrated their own product, or the controller be at least as expensive as twice an Xbox 360. I know my hardware, and I know that camera modules like that aren't anywhere near cheap.
 

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Which doesn't relate to the subject at all.




If you're referring to the Blu-Ray reader problem, a faulty Blu-Ray diode doesn't compare to molten solders.



Er... Have you ever heard of the term 'Future Proof'? The PS3 is capable of delivering much more performance than the XBox 360 without trouble. In fact, games designed for the XBox 360 makes solders on the motherboard melt, causing the RROD. The PS3 however, has no trouble being used as a supercomputer without coming anywhere near as warm as the XBox 360. This means that the PS3 is future proof and that Sony won't have to release a new console as quickly as Microsoft. Quality goes over Quantity.





They don't have to, nothing requires them to make something better already, thus making the PS3 future proof.



I take you are referring to 'Hardware'? They have brought a completely superior console on the market, that actually gives them advantages:

- Game developers can spend more time on high end games, whereas Microsoft first has to release one or two more consoles till they reach the same amount of performance and their waiting line has yet to start, while Sony is already having games in development that puts their console to the test.

- Professional scientific organizations can buy arrays of PS3 hardware to use as their main processing units. Sony delivers them the necessary software (which brings in additional money as well), making their console look extra good on the commercial market.

- They have invested in Blu-Ray, which is more expensive, but with more success. Microsoft has failed investing into HD-DVD as it can't compete to Blu-Ray's standard of 54GB space.

- They have included other expensive modules such as a wireless connection, making people able to stream media to their television, rendering regular multimedia computers unnecessary.

- Backwards compatibility is superior to the XBox 360 as well.





It seems that you are only aware of a single marketing technique, which Microsoft and Nintendo currently happen to apply, but there's more to commercial marketing you know.




Sony doesn't make games at all, you're misinformed. And NATAL will cost a fortune if they're going to do something as iris identification on such a distance, it would require a very high resolution camera. So they either overrated their own product, or the controller be at least as expensive as twice an Xbox 360. I know my hardware, and I know that camera modules like that aren't anywhere near cheap.
Everything you say it's true PS3 does have better perfomance than 360 but it hasn't been shown yet

and damn you do know your freaking hardware xD
 

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Which doesn't relate to the subject at all.




If you're referring to the Blu-Ray reader problem, a faulty Blu-Ray diode doesn't compare to molten solders.



Er... Have you ever heard of the term 'Future Proof'? The PS3 is capable of delivering much more performance than the XBox 360 without trouble. In fact, games designed for the XBox 360 makes solders on the motherboard melt, causing the RROD. The PS3 however, has no trouble being used as a supercomputer without coming anywhere near as warm as the XBox 360. This means that the PS3 is future proof and that Sony won't have to release a new console as quickly as Microsoft. Quality goes over Quantity.





They don't have to, nothing requires them to make something better already, thus making the PS3 future proof.



I take you are referring to 'Hardware'? They have brought a completely superior console on the market, that actually gives them advantages:

- Game developers can spend more time on high end games, whereas Microsoft first has to release one or two more consoles till they reach the same amount of performance and their waiting line has yet to start, while Sony is already having games in development that puts their console to the test.

- Professional scientific organizations can buy arrays of PS3 hardware to use as their main processing units. Sony delivers them the necessary software (which brings in additional money as well), making their console look extra good on the commercial market.

- They have invested in Blu-Ray, which is more expensive, but with more success. Microsoft has failed investing into HD-DVD as it can't compete to Blu-Ray's standard of 54GB space.

- They have included other expensive modules such as a wireless connection, making people able to stream media to their television, rendering regular multimedia computers unnecessary.

- Backwards compatibility is superior to the XBox 360 as well.





It seems that you are only aware of a single marketing technique, which Microsoft and Nintendo currently happen to apply, but there's more to commercial marketing you know.




Sony doesn't make games at all, you're misinformed. And NATAL will cost a fortune if they're going to do something as iris identification on such a distance, it would require a very high resolution camera. So they either overrated their own product, or the controller be at least as expensive as twice an Xbox 360. I know my hardware, and I know that camera modules like that aren't anywhere near cheap.
from that the thing I got is that the PS3 IS THE BEST (after wii!) lol
 

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You say my first paragraph does not relate to the subject at all...how doesn't it?You were referring to how the PS3 is ''superior'' because of its capabilities.I was stating that the most inferior console-the wii sells better than the PS3 so it really makes no difference.So why you tried to pick that apart I really don't know :confused:

Also the problems that the consoles had (key word there 'had') doesn't really come into context now.I was merely referring to what you had previously put in your statement to rag about the PS3 not having any faults.Had you read what I put after you would have seen that I also said that both consoles had sorted out their problems,as the elite doesn't really have this problem anymore and well sony released the 60gb etc...

You say 'quality over quantity' yet the xbox still sells better internationally and as the market is like sheep they will flock to the stores when xbox natal is released to buy it.And will keep buying whatever is brought out due to the advancement in technology

You mention wireless connection capable of streaming media....I have this for my xbox elite,they have the option to connect it if you have the wireless capability for your console (wireless usb) this is done via windows media.I mention gamer hardware* (bad mistype first time round) ''associated'' with sony, I wasn't implying that sony developed the games I was referring to the companies who make the games for the console aren't diverse enough.


As you referred to my marketing awareness,I was giving a simplified example for those not familiar with business terms on nb.Me personally I studied business for 2 years at A level so yes I do know what i'm talking about but decided to give a business example to which people could relate to.


As for blue-ray,yes they have invested in it but the only reason PS3 blue-ray does so well is that no one wants to fork out money to buy a blue-ray dvd player (note the prices that they are not exactly cheap) so people would rather go for the 2 in 1 with the PS3 as it works out cheaper and more effective in the long run.

You keep mentioning 'future proof', so what they don't want to make profit now?They are a business out to make money and due to the way people react when a new console comes out microsoft will keep making money on them.

Backward capability-i'll sum it up-it's not that good,by going on about how great it is your just agreeing with my arguement about PS3 not having good enough games that they have to go back to PS2-PS1 games?!

And NATAL won't be as expensive as you think :rolleyes: the technology is already available they just have upgraded it and put a patent on it as IBM have been working together with them on it.They have already said the camera will come standard with the console and they won't want to lose profit with their customers so the price of the console won't become extortionate.Unlike the stupidly expensive price that the PS3 came out as.
 
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