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I really don't wanna argue cuz I know who is the most powerful guy ever
Who? Karin?..
I really don't wanna argue cuz I know who is the most powerful guy ever
Who? Karin?..
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Nothing hurts chuck norris
Except Karin obviously....
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Nothing hurts chuck norris
Congratulations, you've just won dumbest poster in this thread!!!
Stupid fanboy. Superman cant lose to somebody thats dead
quite easily. universe or dimension creating, non coporeal powers, illusions, control over time, control over molecules, control over realityi dont understand how you can get more OP than planet destroying
superman has travelled thousands of years through time, and almost destroyed the universe because he flew too fast and had to be stopped by presence. and superman doesnt destroy planets for the same reason goku doesntdon't see Super Man with instant transmission or blowing up planets.
IT is just teleporting. plenty of people can do that, and since its only Lightspeed, superman can already do that too by traveling through time. flash is almost omnipresent with his speedinstant transmission > flash/supermans speed
cosmic armour supes and superman prime arent affectedalso goku uses IT and gets kryptonite
superman travelled across the universe in seconds by flying (not teleporting, flying). gokus IT relies on his reaction time to an attack, concentration and ability to sense out another ki energy to teleport TO. only the kaioshin has no limitations on his ITYou do know goku can move anywhere around the universe in an instant right
flash manipulates mass, and thus can punch with the force of a sunAlso, I'm pretty sure he can tank Flash's weak hits,
he doesnt know superman is a kryptonian and he doesnt know if it will work on the strongest version of supes,which is cosmic armourall goku needs is kryptonite to beat superman
flash has travelled across dimensions and galaxiesFunny how you can't even finish your sentence because you know that he's restricted to the ground. Just that one restriction would end him in a fight against one of the DBZ characters. And
the flash is a top tier in DC universe, hes almost omnipresent, massively FTL and can become intangibleThe flash is terrible if superman can beat u with ur own god giving power then ur useless..
no, he cantPre crisis superman is a different story but i still think ssj4 goku can handle him
no dc charatcer has Ki. if he uses IT and then finishes teleporting, his speed would go right back to normal and thus his grab would get avoided. why would it be over? many dc characters manipulate dimensionsGoku senses where he is, uses instant transmission, grabs him, and it's over.
um yes he can. punching with the force of a star means he wouldSo you're whole point is Goku can't catch Flash. Flash can't hurt Goku though
he already has travelled through entire dimensions as shown in the scansflash can't fly
so he has to murder millions of innocent people to win a fight? also he will die too if that happensall goku has to do is stay up in the air, and blow up the planet
no. not really. because superman has massive advantages in all those areasI guess having super-stregth, speed, and fortitude aren't enough to harm superman?
pre crisis superman once flew into a galaxy full of red suns and wasnt terribly weakened. being without solar energy only weakened pre crisis a bit. superman prime and superman with cosmic armour have no aversion to being without a sun since they have nothing that weakens them. nothing at all.Goku could just block out the sun just like Vegeta did making Superman very weak
when cosmic armour supes took 10 billion supernovas, yeahMiniscule explosion? So an explosion to destroy the earth is minuscule?
because the candy beam transcends time and space? superman just heads to 600 thousand years ago, then flies right back to a point where the candy beam had just hit something elseAny form of Buu defeats Superman. how? Turns him into any snack he wants n then superman dies.
keyword: if. remember that wordIf superman gets hit with Buus beam
many superman versions have continued to fight even when bathed in red sunlightYou're delusional.
intangibilty is the ultimate form of durability since nothing can hit youflash doesn't even compare to goku in terms of toughness and durability
except they can do the same exact thing. superman went from one end of his universe to another in a few seconds and at one point moved so fast he almost destroyed the dimensional barriers keeping the universe from being destroyed. as for being able to destroy planets, superman blew away a sun (yes literally took a breath and blew at it, and it still moved back), sneezed away multiple planets instantly, and casually moves planets back into orbit. he played baseball with a moon. his strongest incarnation lifted up a multiverse no diffFunny they make money off of these coming up with villains to challenge those like Flash and Superman, but here you are saying no one of Goku's level, which is incredibly high, could take on Superman, I don't see superman or flash keeping up with the man who can transport instantly from planet to planet and blow up planets at will though
no he isnt. in fact hes a tiny insect next to beings like haruka kaminogi, Lord of nightmares/sea of chaos, kami tenchi, counnter actor, the choushin, makoda kaname, noein, and ruby eye. all of which could destory a universeSorry Goku is on a whole different level, he is at the top of anime characters,
even cosmic armour supes cant defeat one above all, presence and galactusSuperman is the top of comicbook level,
its fiction. doesnt have ot make senseok this doesnt even make sense how is superman pull planets on that small chain that seem to be going through the planets cores
pre crisis superman shrugged it off when a supernova exploded in his face. cosmic armour superman was hit by the power of TEN BILLION stars and he still kept coming. so a planet buster would be like a tiny fleabiteLemme know when Superman can destroy planets.
thats basically his main power. he moves so fast hes effectively everywhere at once (omnipresent) and can move so fast he changes his molecules to become intangible. flash would kill goku before he even raises his fingersLemme know when flash can instantly transmit and not run really fast
anti monitor, a DC character was casually absorbing and destroying countless universes including the universe that superman prime is from. cosmic armour supes lifted up the multiverse. superman prime tanked the destruction of a universe. no db character possesses strength on this level. and no one in db posssesses kryptonite or a way to get superman to a red sun.All I would need to destroy every character in DC is Goku, Vegeta, Broly, Teen Gohan, & Kid Buu. Each and every one of them can destroy earth.
DC's crisis on infinite earths was exactly that.a war spannign countless universes. DC has an omnipotent being who created everything (presence)Dbz > DC
DC = fight of the city
Dbz = fight of the universe
not if its made of a sufficiently tough material. you dont know what might exist in DC universethe chain would obviously just rip apart. He
and yet coudl not when kid boo did this. he needed kaioshins aid because he couldnt concentrateif he blows up the planet he can just instant trammission off to another planet or king kais world
call me when dbz has someone ripping apart space and time by flying too fast, a villain eating universes and an omnipotent god ruling itRofl that pic is ridiculous. Anyway Dbz>Dc all day.
even cosmic armour superman whos multiversal, is outmatched by quite a few dc charactersFunny how you can only use Superman. What about all the other character? It seems that they're just useless.
pre crisis superman is massively FTL. he would be at goku's location before goku is. furthermore goku has no idea kryptonite even exists or that it wont work on some stronger superman incarnations like superman primeGoku: I can beat you in a second!
Superman: *Laughs hysterically*...
Goku: *Uses Shunkan Idou/IT and gets Kryptonite*
yes it does. it requires prep, goku putting his fingers to his head, goku finding a ki source to move to, goku concentrating on itHe's flying you idiot. He's not doing it instantly. He had to build up speed for it to happen. IT doesn't need to be built up. Try again.
not enough since the kamehameha didnt affect the sunIf his SSJ Kamehameha is greater than Cooler's Super Nova (which can destroy a planet) I'm pretty sure a 10x Kamehameha wave in SSJ4 will do much greater damage.
hits him with infinite mass, or just dodges everythign till goku falls down dead of exhaustionSomeone explain to me how Flash beats Goku.
most versions of the godlike superman are not affected by it at all. superboy prime has no weaknesss and laughed when someone tried to use magic on him (a weakness of the weaker supes)Superman is not god..superman gets weak if u put a green glowing rock in his face
again most supermans dont even get hurt by magic or the lack of suns. cosmic armour supes as his title suggests, gets his power from something else, and superman prime cant be affected by anythinghe's weak against magic and he gets all his strength form the sun no he's no god
so goku has to murder millions of babies and children to win?So he needs to kill babies to win matches?
vegetas influence and ssj4's tendecy to make a saiyan more brutal prevents gogeta using genkidama. know your own fandomHow about SSJ4 Gogeta's super spirit bomb
cosmic armour superman is basically god and was created to fight anti monitor, a guy who was eating universesGoku can ask the billionaire tyrant lex Luther to sell him kyptonite..and lex Luther almost killed superman like how many times and he's human...lmfao
superboy prime tanked a universe getting destroyed and cosmic armour superman took the power of 10 billion supernovasGoku survived a supernova explosion that destoryed a solar system
which version was that?Funeral of Superman
pre crisis superman flew into a galaxy of red suns and was still performing godlike featsso one on one at nite with a fu moon since superman gets his powers from the sun...
DC characters who are multiversal/universal are dime a dozen. supermans not even the strongest. anti monitor, presence, spectre etc all solo dbzwe can stop using Goku and use any other major character unlike you DC fanboys who only use Superman.
he could actually. instantly by punching them at the speed of millions of times FTL. simple physics. a punch is stronger if its fastersh can't beat anyone who can fly and transport instantly which is 90% of the warriors in DBZ
of all the gods you could choose yuo picked a random human who needs to know his targets name? if he writes down goku nothing will happenKira can lol
he manipulates time and space itself. he once travelled thousands of years inot the past to ancient egypt in a milisecondI've never read a DC comic where Superman has transported to an area instantaneously
this guysuperman just has too many stupid weaknesses
neither would goku'sFlash's punches wouldn't do a damn thing.
batman is greater than superman and krillin solos all dc but genma solos all period
i dont understand how you can get more OP than planet destroying
I don't see Super Man with instant transmission or blowing up planets. Goku is actually really fast as well. So fast most humans can't see him fight. Flash just has speed with him.
instant transmission > flash/supermans speed :|
also goku uses IT and gets kryptonite :|
You do know goku can move anywhere around the universe in an instant right? Hence instant transmission.
all goku needs is kryptonite to beat superman
Funny they make money off of these coming up with villains to challenge those like Flash and Superman, but here you are saying no one of Goku's level, which is incredibly high, could take on Superman, I don't see superman or flash keeping up with the man who can transport instantly from planet to planet and blow up planets at will though. Sorry Goku is on a whole different level, he is at the top of anime characters, and although Superman is the top of comicbook level, because I don't watch cartoons about him, he is not quite there yet.
Lemme know when Superman can destroy planets. Lemme know when flash can instantly transmit and not run really fast. Lemme know when batman can transform and increase his strength 10-fold. All I would need to destroy every character in DC is Goku, Vegeta, Broly, Teen Gohan, & Kid Buu. Each and every one of them can destroy earth.
Dbz > DC
DC = fight of the city
Dbz = fight of the universe
if he blows up the planet he can just instant trammission off to another planet or king kais world
Rofl that pic is ridiculous. Anyway Dbz>Dc all day.
Funny how you can only use Superman. What about all the other character? It seems that they're just useless. And I don't remember seeing Superman destroy a planet but if you have then please let me know.
He's flying you idiot. He's not doing it instantly. He had to build up speed for it to happen. IT doesn't need to be built up. Try again.
If his SSJ Kamehameha is greater than Cooler's Super Nova (which can destroy a planet) I'm pretty sure a 10x Kamehameha wave in SSJ4 will do much greater damage.
So he needs to kill babies to win matches? What kind of hero would he be then?
dude please stop there is no counter for planet destruction
I say Karin blitzes both of them.....
Someone explain to me how Flash beats Goku.
This whole thread is like comparing Naruto with Spongebob. Completely different logic.
Goku can ask the billionaire tyrant lex Luther to sell him kyptonite..and lex Luther almost killed superman like how many times and he's human...lmfao
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Funeral of Superman
end of discussion
Ok one on one full moon lit nite since superman gets his power from the sun and superman better hope goku ki isn't infused with magic lmao...superman just has too many weaknesses ..superman doesn't even know who batman is and suprman has X-ray vision smh....
Who else? And flash can't beat anyone who can fly and transport instantly, which is 90% of the warriors in DBZ
Damn, I give up. Goku is cooler than Super Man for sure though.
Flash's punches wouldn't do a damn thing.
Goku would punch the **** out of your reality and time-bending Superman, and turn him into a reality and time-bending guy, wearing underwear over his clothes.
Oh wait...
Funny how you can't even finish your sentence because you know that he's restricted to the ground. Just that one restriction would end him in a fight against one of the DBZ characters. And there have been alot of characters that have wrecked Superman, but he does come back to save the day and Goku has died several times but he still comes back to save the day. Hell even Batman would lose to superman because of the restrictions he has.
I disagree with you because Batman can only beat Superman if Superman was restricted to the ground and had none of his long-range powers. Batman is smart but he's not dumb enough to get into the ring with Superman.
Goku senses where he is, uses instant transmission, grabs him, and it's over.
So you're whole point is Goku can't catch Flash. Flash can't hurt Goku though. So what happens? Thought you said Flash wins bro
No, not the whole universe, the instant transmission allows u to move at the speed of light and places in the univers are million light years away which means even instant transmission is gonna tAke time, it won't be instant though
OT: flash can't fly goku, all goku has to do is stay up in the air, and blow up the planet, even a small ki blast blows flash to oblivion, flash doesn't even compare to goku in terms of toughness and durability
Your beloved Supes. would be worthless without the sun; your point?
This is a dumb thread created by a clueless and pathetic idiot that had no clue and dosen't understand DBZ true power. End of story.
Watch me end this ish. Any form of Buu defeats Superman. how? Turns him into any snack he wants n then superman dies.
The only difference is the fact that I did not make a thread discussing something that's been discussed for more times than anyone can remember, hoping to get serious answers while fanboying over my favorite Superhero/character.
We can say he but if its not in the comics then no. He can sneeze all he wants Buu regenerates. Just face it its over. Beam turns him into a cookie, maybe a chocolate bar. We can all have a piece
Lol at everyone calling DBZ fans fanboys. All I see from the Dc posters are "supermans is da best and cannot lose." From all these posts it seems like every Dc character is apparently invincible and can never lose to anyone. The comics must have a GREAT storyline.
I have gathered together every post that has been made on pure fanboyism and ignorance!
Thanks to your ignorance, this bunny has shed a tear.
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I hope you all feel bad now.
And now, I will disprove every post that I have quoted.
Batamn beat Superman when Superman did not want to fight + Batman had A LOT of prep to beat him. Batman owns ANYONE with prep. He is a prep God. Saying Batman beat Superman isn't saying much. It is like saying Gohan beat Cell. They are even when given the right plot and tools.
Krillin solos, I can tell this is a troll. DC has people that could destroy everyone in the DBZ universe with a thought(litterly).
Planet destroying < Small Star(our sun) < mMedium Star < Solar System(ours) < Large
Sstar < Solar Interstellar Neighborhood < Galaxy < Local Galactic Group < Virgo Supercluster < Local Supercluster < Universe < Multiverse
There are things bigger then the Earth and planets.
So because you don't see Superman or the Flash with instant transmission and have seen them blow up planets, they are weaker. There is a word for this. Ignorance. So what if Goku has instant transmission. He can put his finger on his head, locate someones energy, then teleport to it. How is that going to beat Superman or the Flash. He still has to charge up an attack to hurt them, if he can touch them. Not to mention Pre Crisis Superman has blown up multiple planets in one attack. The Flash is way too fast to hit with any energy attack. Anything Goku can do, he won't hit him. Even if he uses Instant Transmission, Goku would still have to come out of it, then attack. Way too much time for Flash to move.
Also, proof humans can't see Goku when he is flying. A manga scan would be nice.
Flash can destroy Goku by moving through him and make Goku's molecules blow up inside of him. Also Flash can use Infinite mass Punch. Look it up. It is stronger then anything Goku can dish out.
Ok, yes it is faster then Superman. Same speed as The Flash considering He has a limited range of Omnipresence.
Also, how does Goku have knowledge of Superman's weakness. Also, if he did, why would Goku want to fight Superman when he is weaker. Goku wants a good fight. He isn't about winning. This is proven when he fought Kid Buu. he didn't care if everyone died.
Also, Goku needs an energy source of someone living to use IT. He can't use it to go find the location of some kryptonite and grab it. That statement just shows you know nothing about DBZ.
Wrong. He can only move where they is a life source to lock on to. Also, this range is limited. He was not able to go to New Namek with IT. They had to go using the Supreme Kai's ability.
How does Goku have knowledge of Superman's weakness. Also, if he did, why would Goku want to fight Superman when he is weaker. Goku wants a good fight. He isn't about winning. This is proven when he fought Kid Buu. he didn't care if everyone died. (copy and paste from my previous response ftw)
I'm guessing you are talking about Kid Buu because Goku would die after blowing up the first planet due to lack of oxygen. If you are, that was anime filler. After he blew up the Earth, Kid Buu went straight to the supreme kai's planet. The regular Superman isn't even close to the top tier in DC. The Spectre(The Presence right hand man) had a scuffle with Pre Crisis Superman and he couldn't even hit Spectre. Buu can't compete with people of that power from DC. There are a few in the DC comics that are just as strong as well. DC >>>>DBZ easy.
DBZ is not at the top of the anime list. Probably to your knowledge they are, but there are at least 20 animes that have atleast 2 or more people from them that can beat anyone in DBZ, and beat the DBZverse all at once. Lord of Nightmares and Kami Tenchi are just 2 of those people.
Your post tells me how much you know about them. They both have done what you said. Superman has blown up multiple planets and stars. Flash is omnipresence(he is everyone all at once) Omnipresence >>>>>>>> IT
Also, Batman transforms into Batgod. He is easy 10 fold stronger then what he normally is.
love that last line. You have no clue how strong some of the people in DC are, villians and Gods. The Presence is literally a God. A mere thought and he erases everyone from DBZ out of existence.
The Presence >= anyone from any anime.
Dc on multiple occasions had fights where many universes were about to be destroyed and weren't. If you knew anything about DC you would know your statement is dumb.
So he runs from the fight to stay alive. Some hero he is. Hopefully he can find an energy source while he's holding his breath before either Flash or Superman kill him (cause both can breath in space).
How is it ridiculous. Show me something DBZ has done to match it. Then I'll show you multiple DC characters doing stuff way more powerful. DC > DBZ.
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Oh look. Multiple planets being blown up from one attack. Got a scan of DBZ doing something that strong? There isn't since I have read the Dragon Ball manga at least 2 times.
characters stronger then Superman of Flash?
Darkseid
Doomsday
Anti Monitor
Spectre
The Presence
There's 5. All will destroy the DBZ verse all at once.
Superman Almost destroed the Universe during that chapter. The Spectre had to stop him. He basically almost reached DC's heaven. If he went any further, the universe would have collapsed. Also, prove he had to build up speed. There are many times Superman is moving faster than light by just reaction speeds.
Got a clip of this?(since there are no manga scans since GT is non canon) Also, just because an attack is named after a supernova, it doesn't mean it is an actual supernova. I also love how you are comparing another non canon character. Is this the only way for DBZ to get close to matching weak characters from DC?
That is just one way he could win. He wouldn't have to go back to when he is a baby. He could fight him when Goku was a teenager, like when he fought Piccolo at the tournament. He could also just beat Goku in his prime.
Planet destroying < Small Star(our sun) < mMedium Star < Solar System(ours) < Large
Sstar < Solar Interstellar Neighborhood < Galaxy < Local Galactic Group < Virgo Supercluster < Local Supercluster < Universe < Multiverse
Any of those attacks are stronger then What Goku or anyone in DBZ can do.
Love the troll response. Normally what happens when you know you can't win a debate.
I can do this. Goku cannot hit the Flash. Nothing he can do will hit him. Even if Goku uses IT, he still needs to come out of it to use an attack. The Flash has faster than light reaction speed. As soon as Goku comes out of IT, the Flash moves.
Also, The Flash can move through Goku's body basically destroying him from within. The infinite mass punch can also beat Goku.
Spongebob beats Narutoverse with Toon force. He erases them all away with his magic pencil. Not to mention Spongebob is immune to damage because he is a sponge and has regeneration.
Goku wouldn't do that. Goku would want a good fight. Also, how did Goku find out Superman's weakness.
Lex Luther did beat him with knowledge prep. If you know someone's weakness, a fight can become much easier. Just look at Naruto vs Pain and Shikimaru vs Hidan. Without knowledge and prep, those 2 fights would have been a lot worse.
Explain to me how this is the end of the discussion. Superan didn't even die. He hasn't ever died. He just goes into healing comas and recoveres.
Magic
kyptonite
red sun radiation
Three weaknesses. So many right? They are there to make his fights interesting. No one would read a one sided fight. Only when there is a chance that the hero may lose, the fight become good.
Superman and Batman were on the Justice League. Of course they know each other.
Also, what does x-ray vision have to do with anything?
Three main characters know Instant Transmission: Goku, Perfect Cell(who copied it from Goku), and Kid Buu(who also copied it from Goku). Wow, that really is 90% of the characters in DBZ. With that statement you have lost your credibility of a poster. Oh wait, you meant fly. Well The Flash can move in the Air as well. He can open up worm holes in the air and use them to move. Since he move basically instantly, he can hit Goku at any point in the air with an infinite mass punch and win.
I agree. Superman is a lame overpowered character. Almost all anime characters are better than comic characters.
Infinite Mass Punch. Go look it up.
Superman Prime Reality bends Goku out of existence with a mere thought. GG Goku. Just accept Superman is stronger. Just like Naruto is stronger than Saskue.
So now your are back peddling. Good job. Flash can own him in the air which I explained earlier.
Batman can beat ANYONE with prep. He WILL find your weakness and he WILL take advantage of it. If you don't let Batman have prep, hes nothing. Most HST characters could beat him.
Explain how it is over. Explain how grabbing him puts him in a position where he would lose. Explain how he could even grab him with FTL reaction speeds.
Goku runs out of energy before Flash does. If Goku goes SSJ3 he basically would drain all of his energy in a couple mins (shown when he fought with Kid Buu). Also, the Flash can catch Goku in the air or wherever. He can open up worm holes and use those to move in the air and can hit Goku before he could put his finger on his head to concentrate and use IT.
Instant transmission IS instant. It is teleporting. IT is limited in the fact that you need an living energy source to lock onto and they have to be within Goku's sensing range. Goku's sensing range is not limitless and it is not the range of the universe. Just thought i'd clear that up.
Flash can move in the air. Any attack Goku does will miss sense the Flash can make energy pass through him because he moves so fast. Goku literally has no way to hit him.
Not every version of Superman. Not to mention Goku would be dead without the sun as well. Your point?
Hi.
You can't use a weaker from of matter minipulation on a being that is shown to resist stronger forms of an attack. Superman Prime is a God and has shown to do so. Also, good luck trying to hit Superman with that attack or any person stronger than Superman in DC. DC characters are way overpowered.
What's wrong with trying to show peoples opinions and knowledge is wrong.
Buu cannot regenerate from an attack that is stronger then what he was shown to die from. The Spirit bomb Goku did didn't even destroy the planet they were on. Superman's sneeze destroyed multiple planets. See which is stronger.
So as my 500th post, respect what I have to say.
If you want to debate with me, bring facts or I will destroy you.
Come at me Bro's!
So you think Dbz had a great storyline? Lol
Not the best storyline ever but at least they lose to the villains sometimes. It seems like Superman auto wins every fight unless someone uses kryptonite. Everyone says Goku can't use it in this thread so that seems fair.
Fail logic
Goku died by Cell's explosion
Superman survived a supernova explosion that destoryed a solar system
Superman can bench 6 sextillion tons
Your argument is invalid