I don't get it who is stronger, Hiruzen or Hashirama.

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Hiruzen in part 1 said to be the strongest of all the Hokage's in his prime, but now Hashirama is supposed to be so strong that he can take on EMS Madara with Kyuubi and win. Hashirama's strength is also compared to that of the SO6P.

Hiruzen 12 years before the series started, had no chance against the Kyuubi alone, so I'm inclined to say Hashi.

But yeah is anyone else like

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[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

So true... plot hole maybe?

 

[HiddenSound]

Who says they can't be equals?

 

[King Of Crows]

Kishi doesn't really plan ahead.....

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Kishi doesn't really plan ahead.....

Ikr, I've heard that he already had everything planned out.

 

[Miyata]

Minato is... he only died so his wife would have a chance to see their son one last time!

 

[Chīkara]

Its just 1 big plot hole...

here's another 1 :

Minato let the kyuubi Tbb crush konoha and then have a hard time teleporting it.

War edo minato : Teleport a TBB in an instant and ask if he is late

 

[Darksharinnegan]

hiruzen in his old age and no prep time had no problem with the kyuubi

 

[TaBaYo]

Weve not seen Hiruzen in his prime yet, so we cant conclude. Hashi is also strong so much that he was cald a god of shinobi. So IMO i think is of dem is strong in his own sense. Tobirama and Minato are also really strong in their own sense.

 

[Ridens]

It is because of reasons like these, that I prefer One Piece over Naruto.

 

[Uchiha Shikiruire]

I like Hashirama more though

 

[CHE nen]

Kishi obviously changed his mind

and don't want the title GOD of Shinobi

to some

old ninja XD

 

[Miyata]

Weve not seen Hiruzen in his prime yet, so we cant conclude. Hashi is also strong so much that he was cald a god of shinobi. So IMO i think is of dem is strong in his own sense. Tobirama and Minato are also really strong in their own sense.

YOU ARE FORGETTING WHY MINATO was chosen to become hokage??? its not because he was a great hokage lol it was because he could single handedly win a war by himself!!! LOL dont dare compare him to tobirama he is a fodder compared to Minato!

 

[Thorium]

Can you show the manga page where it says Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage?

 

[Prime Rib]

well orochimaru commented on how hiruzen use to be called the god of shinobi, and even said that to hashirama, Its possible that hiruzen was once as strong as EMS madara or strong as hashirama but not power wise but jutsu wised

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

How did Minato enter this thread?

 

[Dannyd416]

Oh no Mianto fanboys have invaded the thread. I'd say Hashirama is strongest cause he beat nine tails with Madara controlling him.

 

[Mellanoma]

Hiruzen in part 1 said to be the strongest of all the Hokage's in his prime, but now Hashirama is supposed to be so strong that he can take on EMS Madara with Kyuubi and win. Hashirama's strength is also compared to that of the SO6P.

Hiruzen 12 years before the series started, had no chance against the Kyuubi alone, so I'm inclined to say Hashi.

But yeah is anyone else like

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Yeah its a mega plot hole.. People talk about "Prime Hiruzen" and all that but the question is how can Hiruzen at his age get LOL raped by Orochimaru but Onoki can do 10+ kamehamehas when he almost double the age of hiruzen

My Thoughts: I think Kishi had Oro say that in the first part to emphasize that he had gotten old and thats why he got lol owned... Atleast he didn't die of Ninja aids like all the other really good ninja (Kimmimaru, Itachi, Sai Brother)

 

[lion fang master]

Hiruzen in part 1 said to be the strongest of all the Hokage's in his prime, but now Hashirama is supposed to be so strong that he can take on EMS Madara with Kyuubi and win. Hashirama's strength is also compared to that of the SO6P.

Hiruzen 12 years before the series started, had no chance against the Kyuubi alone, so I'm inclined to say Hashi.

But yeah is anyone else like

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Good question, the only thing I can say would be that the content of the great of best doesn't mean the greatest of all times \. Hashirama as a senju ninja had no equal but after the formation of villages especially after the senju era hiruzen became famous because he was able to add or perform other peoples jutsu ala dead demon seal of the 4th hokage.

 

[LORDLORDZA]

the baddest hokage 1st, 2nd, 4th, 3th, 5th Hiruzen only did bad against the in is age group