[VS] Hyuga Neji,Ameyuri Ringo and Sai Vs Deidara

[Lord Tywin]

no.

Needle tip is much smaller than a pen this is a red blood cell compared to a needle tip

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C4 was smaller than Sasuke blood cells > chakra point feats even though they're not even that small lol.

No the bombs were much larger than blood cells. I can't post the scan but the bombs shown in the blood vessels were visible, but blood cells weren't. You can see the bombs being about as large as 1/4 the width of a blood vessel

 

[BLAZE]

Didn't kg proved sai never blitzed Diedara :lol

Oh, youre talking about the same "nano" bombs that were

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? Lmao You clearly do not understand how big they are if they weren't even smaller then a simple blood cell.

aren't those blood cells around the bomb :|

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The "nano" bombs he used were too big and are not nano sized. If they were, you wouldn't see them so big as compared to his veins let alone them being wayyyyyyyyyyyyy bigger then the blood cells in sasuke body.

:lol what nano sized is not nano sized

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Reserch helps instead of thinking a fiction manga is fact.

wow and clearly skipped the Asuma part i wonder why

Hold up Neji gets Hiashi's feats? :lol he solos

Is Neji going haku tier already :lol

 

[Zexion~]

Literally nothing in Deidara's arsenal can help him. The missiles are destroyed by air palm or rotation. That dragon gets shitted on by air palm. Nano bombs are evaded with absolute ease. Only problem is killing deidara, but air palm again shits as Deidara can't see it.
I think Dre should argue Hiashi' frats Neji vs Deidara

Air palms range is not far at all, its literally a wall of air meant to defend :lol it is never reaching Deidara, MAYBE the smaller ones could however they do nothing if they don't hit Deidara. Using C2 mines means that when Neji uses rotation he sets off the mines underneath him which thus ending Neji. Deidara doesn't even really need to bury them he could just shower them over the battlefield and the effect would be the same.

-Small C4 is still usable
-Deidara can outmaneuver Neji's rotation with bombs exactly like he did Gaara except this would be even easier as he has to stop spinning at some point.

Restrict Deidara to the ground and he still wins this fight, air WALL palm is lame, Hiashi feats only give that and a bigger rotation which sets off more mines.

 

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air WALL palm is lame

what do u mean by this

 

[Zexion~]

what do u mean by this

That its a wall of air the user casts in front of them to halt incoming attacks, I may be remembering the scan wrong but one could say the Juubi hand simply reflected off the wall itself instead of being pushed back, not to mention its a short-mid range jutsu I believe so its not touching Deidara regardless.

 

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That its a wall of air the user casts in front of them to halt incoming attacks, I may be remembering the scan wrong but one could say the Juubi hand simply reflected off the wall itself instead of being pushed back, not to mention its a short-mid range jutsu I believe so its not touching Deidara regardless.

yes its short to mid range but of it hits deidara i doubt he will get up [

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[Zexion~]

yes its short to mid range but of it hits deidara i doubt he will get up [

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Again the more I look at it the more it seems as though its simply a wall of air (as the name suggests) and the Juubi hand was deflected, if it was the force of the jutsu itself causing the hand to go back all areas behind the impact would have been affected by it as well but there is only force where the hand meets the wall. I could be wrong but if that is the case then while supreme for defending it isn't a lethal move that EVERYONE makes it out to be.

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Juubi hand is sliding on the ground ---> Hiashi spawns wall ----> Juubi hand's sliding momentum is deflected off the wall

 

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Again the more I look at it the more it seems as though its simply a wall of air (as the name suggests) and the Juubi hand was deflected, if it was the force of the jutsu itself causing the hand to go back all areas behind the impact would have been affected by it as well but there is only force where the hand meets the wall

hmm nope you are wrong there

Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack (八十神空撃, Yasogami Kūgeki) is a Kekkei Mora taijutsu used by Kaguya, made possible by her mastery of chakra. She loads chakra into her palm, and then unleashes it as a barrage of countless fists. The fist attacks can also be used defensively, and when coupled with Kaguya's perfect dojutsu, it has the potential to become the strongest offensive ability. The Hyuga clan uses a similar vacuum palm attack, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm, but there is a wide gulf in power between the two.

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I could be wrong but if that is the case then while supreme for defending it isn't a lethal move that EVERYONE makes it out to be.

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Juubi hand is sliding on the ground ---> Hiashi spawns wall ----> Juubi hand reflects off the wall.

DB says it delected an attack from juubi so yeah

Hakke Kuuhekishou (Eight Trigrams Vacuum Wall Palm)
Taijutsu, Kekkei Genkai
Volume 55, Page 132

Two people simultaneously release the vacuum shock wave of “Hakke Kuushou.” Normally, this is done with one hand, but Hiashi released it with both arms to deflect an attack from the Juubi.

 

[Unorthodox]

Zexion soloed y'all boys why I never made him a disciple? he a real one unlike ice

 

[Lord Tywin]

Air palms range is not far at all, its literally a wall of air meant to defend :lol it is never reaching Deidara, MAYBE the smaller ones could however they do nothing if they don't hit Deidara. Using C2 mines means that when Neji uses rotation he sets off the mines underneath him which thus ending Neji. Deidara doesn't even really need to bury them he could just shower them over the battlefield and the effect would be the same.

-Small C4 is still usable
-Deidara can outmaneuver Neji's rotation with bombs exactly like he did Gaara except this would be even easier as he has to stop spinning at some point.

Restrict Deidara to the ground and he still wins this fight, air WALL palm is lame, Hiashi feats only give that and a bigger rotation which sets off more mines.

Bruhh... there is nothing you can bring that proves air palm won't reach Deidara. Air pressured that much surely reaches Deidara, but might lose a bit of its power.
:lol at Deidara ever reaching under neji's feet. Not with Byakugan.
Nano bombs are evaded how Sasuke escaped its radius thanks to sharingan
He doesn't need to rotate evade everything.
Gentle fist shits all over any projectiles. Memo destroys the chakra, making the bombs duds

 

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Zexion soloed y'all boys why I never made him a disciple? he a real one unlike ice

did u got kicked out again or wut :lol

 

[Zexion~]

hmm nope you are wrong there
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DB says it delected an attack from juubi so yeah

Don't know why you linked me the DB for Kaguya's I don't see anything of interest there, and I never said it didn't deflect the Juubi attack....Its a wall of air and it deflected the Juubi's force backwards again if it had tremendous force of its own the whole area in front of Hiashi would have been decimated by it :lol I'm not 100% sure though

Bruhh... there is nothing you can bring that proves air palm won't reach Deidara. Air pressured that much surely reaches Deidara, but might lose a bit of its power.
:lol at Deidara ever reaching under neji's feet. Not with Byakugan.
Nano bombs are evaded how Sasuke escaped its radius thanks to sharingan
He doesn't need to rotate evade everything.
Gentle fist shits all over any projectiles. Memo destroys the chakra, making the bombs duds

Except for the fact that the DB states its a low-mid range jutsu and Deidara is a long range fighter....

-Air-Palms can deflect projectiles (nothing but Hiashi's is deflecting C2) but Deidara can simply have them detonate beforehand, does less damage but eventually it would catch up to Neji. As I said scattering the mines is a good way to go here, there is simply too much variation for someone like Neji who can only defend for short bursts to deal with here. C4 is still usable, dropping a small C4 while Neji is using rotation and detonating it when he stops his rotation is an easy kill here, honestly debatable if rotation could even destroy something as small as the nano-bombs so detonating it while he's in rotation might win it.

-Even C4 Garuda is useful here, Neji MUST evade it but lets not forget Sasuke detonated the mines before C4 was used if the mines are up evading C4 just became extermely difficult especially in an open location.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Except for the fact that the DB states its a low-mid range jutsu and Deidara is a long range fighter....

-Air-Palms can deflect projectiles (nothing but Hiashi's is deflecting C2) but Deidara can simply have them detonate beforehand, does less damage but eventually it would catch up to Neji. As I said scattering the mines is a good way to go here, there is simply too much variation for someone like Neji who can only defend for short bursts to deal with here. C4 is still usable, dropping a small C4 while Neji is using rotation and detonating it when he stops his rotation is an easy kill here, honestly debatable if rotation could even destroy something as small as the nano-bombs so detonating it while he's in rotation might win it.

-Even C4 Garuda is useful here, Neji MUST evade it but lets not forget Sasuke detonated the mines before C4 was used if the mines are up evading C4 just became extermely difficult especially in an open location.

Amaterasu is classified as short range. Your point is moot
Any and all projectiles are deflected, speaking of large projectiles. Smaller ones are destroyed with rotation. C4 is dodged my man. He literally can't catch him with that.
and yes rotation will destroy the nano bombs. All the chakra gets repelled, so will the bombs

 

[Zexion~]

Amaterasu is classified as short range. Your point is moot
Any and all projectiles are deflected, speaking of large projectiles. Smaller ones are destroyed with rotation. C4 is dodged my man. He literally can't catch him with that.
and yes rotation will destroy the nano bombs. All the chakra gets repelled, so will the bombs

Amertarasu has contradicted that by feats in the manga, wall palm has not my point is valid :lol

You literally just avoided my point about C4 in and the mines, Neji dies at some point in the match whereas Deidara survives untouched.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Amertarasu has contradicted that by feats in the manga, wall palm has not my point is valid :lol

You literally just avoided my point about C4 in and the mines, Neji dies at some point in the match whereas Deidara survives untouched.

It was show like 3 times in the manga. :lol you have no point
and no. The only reason Deidara could get the mines underground was because of Obito. He's never gonna get that chance to plant them himself with Neji locked on him. If by a miracle he did, Neji would never get caught because of Byakugan. Dropping small amount of c4 is also countered when Neji can see what is waiting for him outside of the sphere.

 

[Zexion~]

It was show like 3 times in the manga. :lol you have no point
and no. The only reason Deidara could get the mines underground was because of Obito. He's never gonna get that chance to plant them himself with Neji locked on him. If by a miracle he did, Neji would never get caught because of Byakugan. Dropping small amount of c4 is also countered when Neji can see what is waiting for him outside of the sphere.

All at low-medium range, you saying because Amertarasu is close range (which btw is labeled that because it doesn't travel distance to reach its target so this argument is already pointless) yet displayed different feats so the whole labeling system should never be trusted is dumb as hell.

He has clones that can place the mines, or like I said simply scattering them across the battlefield would serve the same purpose.

Rotation falters eventually, debatable if it could even rotate a C2 missile exploded directly before it hits the rotation itself and again nothing Neji can do to Deidara here.

C4 + Mines = gg

 

[Lord Tywin]

All at low-medium range, you saying because Amertarasu is close range (which btw is labeled that because it doesn't travel distance to reach its target so this argument is already pointless) yet displayed different feats so the whole labeling system should never be trusted is dumb as hell.

He has clones that can place the mines, or like I said simply scattering them across the battlefield would serve the same purpose.

Rotation falters eventually, debatable if it could even rotate a C2 missile exploded directly before it hits the rotation itself and again nothing Neji can do to Deidara here.

C4 + Mines = gg

go read Itachi vs Sasuke again. It literally shows Amaterasu traveling after it missed Sasuke
Clones don't mean Neji would let it do anything. He can still see the clone as well as Deidara. He will never get caught off guard.
Rotation stopped Juubi's hand, which has more force than Deidara's blasts. He can't penetrate the sphere

 

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go read Itachi vs Sasuke again. It literally shows Amaterasu traveling after it missed Sasuk

Bruh Amatersu being different range jutsu since it has manga feats that contradict DB. does not apply jutsu's like vaccum palm or great fireball long range when they have nvr shown any feats of being so

 

[Unorthodox]

I hate the databook

 

[neosmith500]

Nothing states it would blow the clay pouch off of Deidara when nothing was removed from Kisame when he was hit with it, Deidara won't be caught off guard here he'll retreat backwards to avoid being hit by the air-palm.

I said Wall Palm , a pinpoint hit would blast Deidara into the surrounding Trees with extreme force and break every single bone in his body no diff.

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-If Deidara retreats into the trees immediately after Neji shunshins towards him a Pinpointed Blast of Wall palm would still violently Blast the trees towards him while he backtracks which has a high chance of killing and/or hindering him greatly due to the force + amount of trees flying at him not to mention catch him completely off-guard with its speed , meanwhile Neji would've already shunshined again immediately after using it , with Ringo following to spam Raiton with Neji's directions while Sai summons his Warriors , Tigers and Birds to lock him down.