Sorry it took me so long. I had to go get the Viz translations.
Ok. Anbu official stated "....... Both Famed as the Ultimate Shinobi"
Orochimaru stated that ".......Even you, who has been hailed as a Shinobi God"
Both refer to present tense. Both Hashirama and Tobirama are ultimate shinobi, and Hiruzen is a shinobi god. Niether one in the Viz translation is used in past tense.
famed is a present tense mate.
famed : known about by many people; renowned.
fame : the condition of being known or talked about by many people, especially on account of notable achievements.
Famed is simply the adjective form, compared to fame which is a noun.
Ok see, it says "As a god of shinobi" "a" meaning there were others, like Hashirama.
Orochimaru says the samething to Hashirama "honor to be praised by A god of shinobi". So meaning Hiruzen was strong enough to achieve that title. However, Tobirama and Hashirama are still the ultimate shinobi.
1. It doesn't change him not knowing about them. Or fighting wit them or being there to see either of the two's abilities his source isn't first hand, Thus it holds no weight.
2. Use the word" acclaim" in the present tense.
3. The fact they're considered fairy tale means that ppl of this generation have limited to no knowledge of their actual abilities. It would be like jman speaking of kaguya. Lol that's exactly what it means.
1. there is no need for them to know about them. Nor is the arguement whether they knew about them. That is irrelevant. We are comparing hypes.. not which one knew the actual people. understand that. Hype comes from people who have seen them.. and thats how hype spreads.
2. So now you want me to use a word, because its actual word is a present tense, but you cannot see it as that? really?
3. Fairy tails = beyond belief. Notice their POWERS were considered fairy taill... lol not the people themselves. Yet despite that they were still famed as the ultimate shinobi.