How Tobi Really Evaded Amaterasu

[The Necromancer]

What dogs***t logic we might as well say this about everything else that wasn't introduced to at this time. Can you actually try and put up an argument?

And there we have the end of your debate. Apparently Kishimoto is supposed to describe abilities that have not yet been created, in full detail within the pages of the book printed and released before the inclusion of that jutsu in the manga.

"Where was Infinite Tsukuyomi mentioned in part 1 or Databook 1?? It had to have been, it's included later!"

Who knew. You got me there.

 

[ComplexCity]

And there we have the end of your debate. Apparently Kishimoto is supposed to describe abilities that have not yet been created in full detail within the pages of the book printed and released before the inclusion of that jutsu in the manga.

Who knew. You got me there.

Stop twisting my words and actually use your brain for once. Your stupid argument is that since it wasn't introduced at that time then that means that it didn't and can't happen. Do you know people who create their own content add things last minute or can even hint at something they haven't created yet?


This thread is just a wall of text on your bias opinion that you can't even back up when challenged with question that factually happen in the manga and go against your opinion

 

[The Necromancer]

stop twisting my words and actually use your brain for once. Your stupid argument is that since it wasn't introduced at that time then that means that it didn't and can't happen. Do you know people who create their own content add things last minute or can even hint at something they haven't created yet?

Yes! That's exactly what that means!

 

[shelke]

Why the hell am I in this thread? Oh, someone dug up my old post and quoted me.

@OP

I disagree. But this is a tiring debate. The Databook in no way is an infallible source here as it is merely creating suspense. At that time, it was a mystery; an ambiguity the author chose to leave. We already saw Intangibility shown before it. The author going for the same one-trick pony at this point is odd.

Obito was also screaming. Which means he was being burnt. The tech is also rather automatic, as the DB IV states. His body should have just phased through when the eye acknowledged the Jutsu being cast. A lot is going against Kamui here for me to accept it. But, good thread regardless.

 

[ComplexCity]

Yes! That's exactly what that means!

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Show me in the picture where Izanagi can be refuted

 

[The Necromancer]

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Show me in the picture where Izanagi can be refuted

How about the only two pictures that show an ability being used? The pictures that specifically show Kamui being used? Pictures of Kamui which are specifically captioned by the rest of the page?

This isn't hard, dude.

 

[shelke]

I'm truly sorry you've been dragged into this shit show.

Eh, it's all right. I don't mind disagreements. It makes a discussion fun. Like I said, you have made a great thread.

 

[ComplexCity]

How about the only two pictures that show an ability being used? The pictures that specifically show Kamui being used? Pictures of Kamui which are specifically captioned by the rest of the page?

This isn't hard, dude.

Was talking about the underlined which says he escaped Itachi's technique unscathed, Kamui doesn't negate damage. It also says that it transcended space which Izanagi can do as well


I'm still waiting for you to refute everything else though. You haven't proven a thing

 

[The Necromancer]

Was talking about the underlined which says he escaped Itachi's technique unscathed, Kamui doesn't negate damage. It also says that it transcended space which Izanagi can do as well


I'm still waiting for you to refute everything else though. You haven't proven a thing

This is a circular argument at this point. You're just ignoring logic intentionally dismissing all posts against you. I'm literally going to say the same thing until you either get banned because of incessant flaming and member bashing, or until you finally understand the basics of the English language.

But I think we both know which will come first. Time for you to leave, it seems. Disagreements and debates are fun, but ignorance and stubborn refusal of facts are pathetic.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

I wonder which idiot came with theory that Obito cant phase while something is physically attached to him.

It was probably ITachi/Sasuke fans failed attempt to wank Amaterasu. Back then they were saying AMaterasu can not be absorbed because Nagato used Shinra Tensei. Luckily Kaguya and Madara proved them wrong.

That was just try to make Kamui less OP that it actually is.

And Obito making Sasuke intangible too was probably mistake (Plot Hole) because if he had that power than he can make for example Susanoo intangible which would turn Kamui into invicibility jutsu.

 

[ComplexCity]

This is a circular argument at this point. You're just ignoring logic intentionally dismissing all posts against you. I'm literally going to say the same thing until you either get banned because of incessant flaming and member bashing, or until you finally understand the basics of the English language.

But I think we both know which will come first. Time for you to leave, it seems. Disagreements and debates are fun, but ignorance and stubborn refusal of facts are pathetic.

You said his clothes weren't burned because Amateratsu wasn't focused, which I refuted

You said Kamui can be the only logical option because it transcends space, which Izanagi also does


You said it can't be Izanagi because it wasn't introduced yet, which is retarded due to the fact Mokuton has the ability to absorb Bijuu chakara but wasn't introduced until later


You're literally the epitome of a bias fapboy who won't even debate against members of your fellow legion. Clearly in the OP you stated if there were any disagreements. I see Shelke disagreeing but no rebuttals from you. Then there's your reaching and inability to refute my point(s)

I wonder which idiot came with theory that Obito cant phase while something is physically attached to him.

It was probably ITachi/Sasuke fans failed attempt to wank Amaterasu. Back then they were saying AMaterasu can not be absorbed because Nagato used Shinra Tensei. Luckily Kaguya and Madara proved them wrong.

That was just try to make Kamui less OP that it actually is.

Relax it was me, because I was convinced by another members that Obito's Kamui works like a trigger. Kishimoto is so inconsistent with his writing

 

[The Necromancer]

I wonder which idiot came with theory that Obito cant phase while something is physically attached to him.

It was probably ITachi/Sasuke fans failed attempt to wank Amaterasu. Back then they were saying AMaterasu can not be absorbed because Nagato used Shinra Tensei. Luckily Kaguya and Madara proved them wrong.

That was just try to make Kamui less OP that it actually is.

It was originally a point of a member here, until he came to this thread, realized he was wrong, and turned his focus towards singed clothing.

You said his clothes weren't burned because Amateratsu wasn't focused, which I refuted

You said Kamui can be the only logical option because it transcends space, which Izanagi also does

You said it can't be Izanagi because it wasn't introduced yet, which is retarded due to the fact Mokuton has the ability to absorb Bijuu chakara but wasn't introduced until later


You're literally the epitome of a bias fapboy who won't even debate against members of your fellow legion. Clearly in the OP you stated if there were any disagreements. I see Shelke disagreeing but no rebuttals from you. Then there's your reaching and inability to refute my point(s)

- You refuted nothing, merely pointed out yet another inconsistency with Amaterasu, of which there are many.
- That's not why Kamui is the only option. Kamui is the only option because the entire page the caption is referring to is about Kamui.
- That argument makes no sense. Even the author can't see into the future.
- I respect Shelke. He has valid points, that sway his decision, and I have valid points that sway mine, as we both agree. Your points are foolish and based on ignorance and anger.

 

[shelke]

It was originally a point of a member here, until he came to this thread, realized he was wrong, and turned his focus towards singed clothing.



- You refuted nothing, merely pointed out yet another inconsistency with Amaterasu, of which there are many.
- That's not why Kamui is the only option. Kamui is the only option because the entire page the caption is referring to is about Kamui.
- That argument makes no sense. Even the author can't see into the future.
- I respect Shelke. He has valid points, that sway his decision, and I have valid points that sway mine, as we both agree. Your points are foolish and based on ignorance and anger.

You are wasting your time. People here do not understand that disagreements can happen whilst respecting the other's opinion. It's a foreign concept to them.

This guy dragged me intentionally into this to blow this out of proportion. That states a lot about his vendetta. Now he's just mad at how things turned out.

 

[ComplexCity]

- You refuted nothing, merely pointed out yet another inconsistency with Amaterasu, of which there are many.

refute
verb re·fute
Simple Definition of refute
: to prove that (something) is not true
: to say that (something) is not true

2. This Amaterasu wasn't focused, and thus wasn't as powerful or fast burning.

Your reach and desperattion is so apparent

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- That's not why Kamui is the only option. Kamui is the only option because the entire page the caption is referring to is about Kamui

And yet you have still to logically refute why his clothes weren't burnt

- That argument makes no sense. Even the author can't see into the future

But later concepts can be put into their works, which is what I've previously stated

- I respect Shelke. He has valid points, that sway his decision, and I have valid points that sway mine, as we both agree

So? What's your point? And I quote

How does that at all infer that I made this thread for you?

I made this thread to educate. I was asked who disagreed. I told them. Your mind works in strange ways.

All you did was apologize to him, he disagreed. I thought you were educating people?

Your points are foolish and based on ignorance and anger.

Don't know why people think I'm angry all the time. If it talks like a duck then it's a duck

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

On the contrary this scan tries to make it seem as though izanagi is obito's trump card rather than kamui.

And if konan knew about kamui surely itachi did too. Obito saying "I kept a few secrets from itachi" could easily be refered to izanagi.

That's a huge assumption right there and I'd like for you to explain how you got there another time.

 

[The Necromancer]

You bash people as well as derail on threads other people make so don't site here acting like Mr. Justice because if you want to play the reporting game, we can play the reporting game. Do you think I care if I get banned? My life does not thrive on this site contrary to popular belief. I've been banned before and done other things


I like how you're doing a great job refuting though. Keep it up

I don't debate extraneous bias, and anger. It's good the Databook and Manga will do it for me.

It was fun until you devolved into anger and flaming.

 

[SenseiSama]

Not saying he didn't use Kamui but Amaterasu wouldn't have been warped while he's in the Kamui dimension. He could have just cut part of his arm like the Juubi cut part of it's body since he's made of White Zetsu cells. Or he could've used Izanagi with one of the hundred spare Sharingan he has in his lab

 

[The Necromancer]

Not saying he didn't use Kamui but Amaterasu wouldn't have been warped while he's in the Kamui dimension. He could have just cut part of his arm like the Juubi cut part of it's body since he's made of White Zetsu cells. Or he could've used Izanagi with one of the hundred spare Sharingan he has in his lab

Or you could read the thread where all of this is explained.

 

[ComplexCity]

Or you could read the thread where all of this is explained.

The thread is faulty and filled with points that you did not and cannot refute. Not to mention you have someone who has disagreed with you and you haven't educated because you respect him (LOL wut?) I guess he's bias as well

 

[Koinzell]

Sasuke negs ALL.