How the "Kage" are set up by Kishimoto

[KingHashirama]

I don't quite get when people try to compare others to the Kage of their village.

You guys need to realize by now, that Kishimoto had set up the Kages as the strongest shinobi produced by that specific village. (Excluding the main antagonists and the protagonist)

Itachi, Danzo, Jiraiya, Kakashi, and so on..... are all below the 5 Hokage. Hell even Guy stated that he isn't on Hokage level, when he said the 4 red suns barrier requires 4 Hokage level ninjas.

This is just me stating how the Kage in each village are set up by Kishimoto.

 

[Invsblphntm]

Naruto can take Minato, Hiruzen, and Tobirama.


Sasuke can take Minato, Hiruzen, and Tobirama.


Kakashi can potentially take all of them.


Your point..?

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't quite get when people try to compare others to the Kage of their village.

You guys need to realize by now, that Kishimoto had set up the Kages as the strongest shinobi produced by that specific village. (Excluding the main antagonists and the protagonist)

Itachi, Danzo, Jiraiya, Kakashi, and so on..... are all below the 5 Hokage. Hell even Guy stated that he isn't on Hokage level, when he said the 4 red suns barrier requires 4 Hokage level ninjas.

This is just me stating how the Kage in each village are set up by Kishimoto.

Bold below Tsunade? Not a chance. Being Hokage doesn't mean you are the strongest in the village. Not anymore and manga events have made that very clear.

Is A above B? No.

 

[CobaltThe17th]

makes sense but watch out for flamers

 

[Neonian]

Jiraya would have been Hokage, but turned it down.

 

[Sir Blades]

Yes king hashirama.

 

[KingHashirama]

Bold below Tsunade? Not a chance. Being Hokage doesn't mean you are the strongest in the village. Not anymore and manga events have made that very clear.

Is A above B? No.

-sigh-. Jiraiya already admit inferiority to Tsunade, whether he meant it in other way or w.e. Only way Jiraiya can compete with Base Tsunade is Sage mode...... Tsunade's recent power up puts her on top.

What manga events have made that clear?


Ay was always portrayed above B... no point arguing that..

Naruto can take Minato, Hiruzen, and Tobirama.


Sasuke can take Minato, Hiruzen, and Tobirama.


Kakashi can potentially take all of them.


Your point..?

Kakashi is on the same level as the 5 Hokage? uh no


Sasuke is one of the main antagonists while Naruto is the main protagonist.

Jiraya would have been Hokage, but turned it down.

Sure if you look at it from the story point of view.. If you look at it from the non-story point of view.. you'll see that Jiraiya wasn't made Hokage by Kishimoto.. instead it was the most known Sanin out of the 3. And the 1 that won the Leaf the 2nd world war.

 

[Fodder#4]

Bold below Tsunade? Not a chance. Being Hokage doesn't mean you are the strongest in the village. Not anymore and manga events have made that very clear.

Is A above B? No.

I'd agree with this.

OT:But ya' also gotta realize that Kage is certainly vague. Shinobi that have surpassed the Jounin level could be considered Kage, or Low Kage. I mean, what other rank is there for 'em?

AnBu? I thought that was more or less a special group that specialized in certain missions. Covert, assassinations, what not.

 

[Owarij]

You're joking... Kakashi was almost elected as Hokage..

Orochimaru was almost elected as hokage


Tsunade IS hokage..


Oro admitted inferiority to itachi,

Being Hokage doesn't mean you're the strongest in the village. and Kishi definitely didn't set it up to be like that.

 

[ThilinaC]

Jiraiya,Naruto,Oro,Kakashi,Itachi all above Tsunade & Hiruzen.In part 1 beginning Kishi set it up that strongest is the Kage part but later he changed it I guess.Naruto surpassed Tsunade,Hiruzen around Pain invasion arc btw.

 

[Space Cowboy]

Ill just pose this question in response: Do you honest to god believe Tsunade has the slightest of chances against Itachi?

 

[KidGamer65]

-sigh-. Jiraiya already admit inferiority to Tsunade, whether he meant it in other way or w.e. Only way Jiraiya can compete with Base Tsunade is Sage mode...... Tsunade's recent power up puts her on top.

What manga events have made that clear?


Ay was always portrayed above B... no point arguing that..

Jiraiya never admitted inferiority to Tsunade...ever. Bold is a load of nonsense. Base Jiraiya beats Base Tsunade and SM Jiraiya beats Byakugou Tsunade. Itachi beats her as well.

Ay was portrayed as stronger than B? Back in the past maybe but this is the present.

Hokage=/=Strongest in the village.

 

[ItachiStillSolos]

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[KingHashirama]

You're joking... Kakashi was almost elected as Hokage..

Orochimaru was almost elected as hokage


Tsunade IS hokage..


Oro admitted inferiority to itachi,

Being Hokage doesn't mean you're the strongest in the village. and Kishi definitely didn't set it up to be like that.

-sigh-.

Your looking at it from STORY POINT OF VIEW....... The fact that those people were ELECTED HOKAGE.. but were not MADE Hokage proves their inferiority.... Out of all the Sanin who was the most popular? Tsunade, Who won the leaf the 2 great War? Tsunade...... Who BECAME HOKAGE? Tsunade.

Hashirama strongest of his time = Hokage


Your really trying to tell me that Kishimoto didn't set it up that way ?

Jiraiya never admitted inferiority to Tsunade...ever. Bold is a load of nonsense. Base Jiraiya beats Base Tsunade and SM Jiraiya beats Byakugou Tsunade. Itachi beats her as well.

Ay was portrayed as stronger than B? Back in the past maybe but this is the present.

Hokage=/=Strongest in the village.

Mate your looking at it from the story point of view...
Base Jiraiya has nothing on Base Tsunade lmao.....

Killer B in his tailed beast form is slow..... he is the exact opposite of the Raikage.. In which was Killer B made stronger then Ay?

Ill just pose this question in response: Do you honest to god believe Tsunade has the slightest of chances against Itachi?

Are you really gonna ask me a question that is dependent on Kishimoto's scenario? really?

Sorry but when was the last time Itachi took on a Hokage? Because all I remember is him bowing to one.

Jiraiya,Naruto,Oro,Kakashi,Itachi all above Tsunade & Hiruzen.In part 1 beginning Kishi set it up that strongest is the Kage part but later he changed it I guess.Naruto surpassed Tsunade,Hiruzen around Pain invasion arc btw.

Hiruzen = God of shinobi in Part 1, he was the strongest

Naruto will be the strongest = HOKAGE.... HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS NOT GETTING THIS????


And If you read the OP I specifically put "(Except the main antagonists and the main protagonist)"

 

[Space Cowboy]

-sigh-.

Your looking at it from STORY POINT OF VIEW....... The fact that those people were ELECTED HOKAGE.. but were not MADE Hokage proves their inferiority.... Out of all the Sanin who was the most popular? Tsunade, Who won the leaf the 2 great War? Tsunade...... Who BECAME HOKAGE? Tsunade.

Hashirama strongest of his time = Hokage


Your really trying to tell me that Kishimoto didn't set it up that way ?




Mate your looking at it from the story point of view...
Base Jiraiya has nothing on Base Tsunade lmao.....

Killer B in his tailed beast form is slow..... he is the exact opposite of the Raikage.. In which was Killer B made stronger then Ay?



Are you really gonna ask me a question that is dependent on Kishimoto's scenario? really?

Sorry but when was the last time Itachi took on a Hokage? Because all I remember is him bowing to one.


Hiruzen = God of shinobi in Part 1, he was the strongest

Naruto will be the strongest = HOKAGE.... HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS NOT GETTING THIS????


And If you read the OP I specifically put "(Except the main antagonists and the main protagonist)"

Lol, its easy for us to make inferences on who would win based on the things Kishi has presented to us. Thats the whole point of these forums. And that is truly a awful trail of logic to follow. Itachi murder-rapes Tsunade, and any attempts to refute something so obvious are laughable. Try if youd like

 

[AlphaScythian]

Itachi, jiraya, danzo, kakashi are all kage levels.
Hiruzen is fodder lvl jonin

Where are u getting at?

 

[KingHashirama]

Lol, its easy for us to make inferences on who would win based on the things Kishi has presented to us. Thats the whole point of these forums. And that is truly a awful trail of logic to follow. Itachi murder-rapes Tsunade, and any attempts to refute something so obvious are laughable. Try if youd like

According to the manga, genjutsu is useless against people who can control their chakra.. and Tsunade is the best medic in history.. meaning she has better chakra control then others... otherwise meaning Tsukuyomi would be useless against her. But have Itachi fans admit this? no

Itachi could barely last against Sasuke...

 

[AlphaScythian]

According to the manga, genjutsu is useless against people who can control their chakra.. and Tsunade is the best medic in history.. meaning she has better chakra control then others... otherwise meaning Tsukuyomi would be useless against her. But have Itachi fans admit this? no
Itachi could barely last against Sasuke...

The are u talking about? Every shinobi can control his chakra, otherwise u are rock lee.
Even kabuto, a medic with good chakra control 5 genjutsu stat and sage mode was afraid of genjutsu.

Accept that.

 

[Booker]

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[Space Cowboy]

According to the manga, genjutsu is useless against people who can control their chakra.. and Tsunade is the best medic in history.. meaning she has better chakra control then others... otherwise meaning Tsukuyomi would be useless against her. But have Itachi fans admit this? no

Itachi could barely last against Sasuke...

I really hope youre joking. Like the entire post. Exclude Tsukuyomi if it makes you feel better, even though it would certainly work, and kill her. How does she handle Amaterasu or Totsuka?