How is Itachi> Minato???

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I knew people were going to use susano... do you think susano is unbeatable? minato could summon a toad over susano and others to help him break it


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Itachi being arguably the greatest user of shuriken jutsu known in the manga , can easily deflect and redirect every one of minato's flying thunder god kunais'. Not only is itachi a greater user of projectile skill than minato, but minato's kunai are oddly shapped and heavy, which will make them harder to throw.

Minato's reactions seems to be on par, if not above 3 tomoe sharingan levels, so are itachi's, as seen here.

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And here as Itachi is extremely fast at drawing kunai. So much that infact as seasoned sharingan user cannot keep up. (though he only has one sharingan he still is skilled in its use.) As well as the advantage of the sharingan's prediction and perception.
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Itachi has shown to be fatigued after using three consecutive MS techniques. Itachi needs to cast Amaterasu once to set the forest alight, he can deflect minato's kunai sending them to where they best suit him, or deep into the quickly flaming forest. This confines them to a relatively small area of open land.

From here, Itachi can either successively prepare and implement inzanami, (which minato has no knowledge of, and thus will be rendered unable to escape. Or he can trick minato by injuring him with a explosive clone. (which Itachi has shown to be able to use without even a sharingan user like sasuke differentiating the clone from his physical body.)

As for Minato's Frogs, Itachi can control them with genjutsu. As sasuke has proven below, it does not require an MS Technique.
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It also seems that Manda is one of the hardest summons to controll out of the 3 sannin summoning types, as stated by suigetsu even orochimaru had trouble controlling him, as shown below:
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As far as direct genjutsu, this puts minato at a extreme disadvantage. Yes, he was able to defeat obito, but at the age of 14, he had barely had his sharingan for a year, while Itachi has had it from at least age 8. Even those who had it for much longer such as the police force officers paled in comparison to itachi's speed and perception. Itachi often can catch, even an intelligent opponent in a genjutsu at any time during the course of battle, and is a great hindrance, even if Minato can successively counter some of them.
 

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lol i know what that is...tell me, what happens when totsuka pierces that pretty face? :(
 

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lol i know what that is...tell me, what happens when totsuka pierces that pretty face? :(

he would hit susano from the top.. and other toads attacking him. minato can help them to dogdge as he can grab them and use the ftg.. if he can't, he can use fuijutsu on that sword and also the amaterasu
 

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Itachi has Susano'o, and the Totsuka blade and Yata mirror, the ultimate defence and offense. How can Minato stand up against that?​

He had and it was like he said every jutsu has a weakness..everything is flawed..Now i do agree Itachi is a beast but I gotta go with my man Minato even though we haven't gotten to see the rest of his skills..he was a Hokage..Not everyone gets that title for jus 2 or 3 moves.

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He had and it was like he said every jutsu has a weakness..everything is flawed..Now i do agree Itachi is a beast but I gotta go with my man Minato even though we haven't gotten to see the rest of his skills..he was a Hokage..Not everyone gets that title for jus 2 or 3 moves.

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What are you talking about, Tsunade has almost the same amount moves than Minato Currently.
 

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I have seen so many posts saying Itachi is better than Minato, and after reading so many fanboys points you may start to believe it a bit....

But then I realised, how could Itachi defeat Minato???

The trickiest thing would be genjutsu... But apart from that all Itachi's tricks could be dodged by Space–Time Ninjutsu and also Fūinjutsu. He also got the summoning abilities!! One of Minato's trademark attributes was his immense speed and instantaneous reflexes.


His attacks are also very quick, it does not require hand signs to be performed (rasengan).

The lack of elaborate preparations needed for the Rasengan gave Minato an advantage over other technique users in battle. For example, in his fight with Tobi, he is able to form a Rasengan right after throwing his marked kunai at him, allowing Minato to land a devastating blow immediately after performing the Flying Thunder God Technique.

If you say susano or whatever...
A admitted that even with his Lightning Release Armour enhancing his already immense speed and reflexes was still outmatched by Minato.Even when assisted by his brother, A was unable to lay a hand on Minato.



According to Jiraiya, Minato was one of the most gifted shinobi who ever lived and was also believed to be one of the strongest shinobi that ever existed. His abilities were so far advanced that even the Fourth Raikage thought that no one would be able to surpass him.

He also fought the nine tails, one on one, eye to eye, without fearing the beast!!! What a boss

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But we all have to agree, Itachi and Minato are the coolest in Narutoverse by far...
Sasuke is very lucky to be Itachi's brother, Naruto is very lucky to be Minato's son

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how is itachi>minato

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Itachi being arguably the greatest user of shuriken jutsu known in the manga , can easily deflect and redirect every one of minato's flying thunder god kunais'. Not only is itachi a greater user of projectile skill than minato, but minato's kunai are oddly shapped and heavy, which will make them harder to throw.

Minato's reactions seems to be on par, if not above 3 tomoe sharingan levels, so are itachi's, as seen here.

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And here as Itachi is extremely fast at drawing kunai. So much that infact as seasoned sharingan user cannot keep up. (though he only has one sharingan he still is skilled in its use.) As well as the advantage of the sharingan's prediction and perception.
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Itachi has shown to be fatigued after using three consecutive MS techniques. Itachi needs to cast Amaterasu once to set the forest alight, he can deflect minato's kunai sending them to where they best suit him, or deep into the quickly flaming forest. This confines them to a relatively small area of open land.

From here, Itachi can either successively prepare and implement inzanami, (which minato has no knowledge of, and thus will be rendered unable to escape. Or he can trick minato by injuring him with a explosive clone. (which Itachi has shown to be able to use without even a sharingan user like sasuke differentiating the clone from his physical body.)

As for Minato's Frogs, Itachi can control them with genjutsu. As sasuke has proven below, it does not require an MS Technique.
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It also seems that Manda is one of the hardest summons to controll out of the 3 sannin summoning types, as stated by suigetsu even orochimaru had trouble controlling him, as shown below:
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As far as direct genjutsu, this puts minato at a extreme disadvantage. Yes, he was able to defeat obito, but at the age of 14, he had barely had his sharingan for a year, while Itachi has had it from at least age 8. Even those who had it for much longer such as the police force officers paled in comparison to itachi's speed and perception. Itachi often can catch, even an intelligent opponent in a genjutsu at any time during the course of battle, and is a great hindrance, even if Minato can successively counter some of them.

I expected more from you U_U

If Itachi cancels the FTG Kunais with shuriken he'll just bring his doom closer

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Imagine if it was Minato and his Kunai's instead of Sasuke, Itachi will be the victim of "FTG Radius"

Also Sasuke was able to control Manda because he had Orochimaru, even if we say that isn't the case it would still not work as Minato can lift the genjutsu off of his toads U_U

I'll take my leave now, you guys enjoy.

One more thing Minato's Reaction time > Ay's Reaction time > MS Itachi's Reaction time > MS Sasuke's Reaction time
 
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Agreed sir. But Kishimoto haven't revaild all of Minato's abilities.
 

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This will get us nowhere the only post i actually read was from minator93.
Itachi is our lord and Minato is a pimp, either way they're still cool.

Why can't we all agree on Minato = Itachi?
 

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I think they're equal :)
 

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he would hit susano from the top.. and other toads attacking him. minato can help them to dogdge as he can grab them and use the ftg.. if he can't, he can use fuijutsu on that sword and also the amaterasu

You're overthinking it, the fight would be over before Itachi even uses susanoo...

Any summon will get sliced by totsuka, you mentioned nothing about it's decapitation of a 8 headed snake...

If minato had other summons then why did he only show 1 during kurama's attack? were the rest on vacation...? Dont assume that he even has enough chakra to summon more than 1

You think minato can seal a sealing sword? seriously? he would be fodder by the time he even weaves any jutsu U_U

And the same goes for ama, is minato gonna seal ama while its burning on him and he's trying to fend off itachi?
 
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ninja are good at differant things, itachi is good for 1v1ing imo, can take out shinobi silently and quickly(uchiha clan) but minato would be able to do super fast with minimal energy over large distances involving mass amounts of people if he has kunais/seal placed properly. and a stronger ninja doesnt mean that he will win the fight and a weaker ninja could end up winning. circumstances, intent, environment, condition all play roles
 

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Itachi being arguably the greatest user of shuriken jutsu known in the manga , can easily deflect and redirect every one of minato's flying thunder god kunais'. Not only is itachi a greater user of projectile skill than minato, but minato's kunai are oddly shapped and heavy, which will make them harder to throw.

Minato's reactions seems to be on par, if not above 3 tomoe sharingan levels, so are itachi's, as seen here.

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And here as Itachi is extremely fast at drawing kunai. So much that infact as seasoned sharingan user cannot keep up. (though he only has one sharingan he still is skilled in its use.) As well as the advantage of the sharingan's prediction and perception.
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Itachi has shown to be fatigued after using three consecutive MS techniques. Itachi needs to cast Amaterasu once to set the forest alight, he can deflect minato's kunai sending them to where they best suit him, or deep into the quickly flaming forest. This confines them to a relatively small area of open land.

From here, Itachi can either successively prepare and implement inzanami, (which minato has no knowledge of, and thus will be rendered unable to escape. Or he can trick minato by injuring him with a explosive clone. (which Itachi has shown to be able to use without even a sharingan user like sasuke differentiating the clone from his physical body.)

As for Minato's Frogs, Itachi can control them with genjutsu. As sasuke has proven below, it does not require an MS Technique.
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It also seems that Manda is one of the hardest summons to controll out of the 3 sannin summoning types, as stated by suigetsu even orochimaru had trouble controlling him, as shown below:
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As far as direct genjutsu, this puts minato at a extreme disadvantage. Yes, he was able to defeat obito, but at the age of 14, he had barely had his sharingan for a year, while Itachi has had it from at least age 8. Even those who had it for much longer such as the police force officers paled in comparison to itachi's speed and perception. Itachi often can catch, even an intelligent opponent in a genjutsu at any time during the course of battle, and is a great hindrance, even if Minato can successively counter some of them.

Minato intelligence is one of his main characteristics... He was able to find Tobi's information in very short time, and managed to beat him. What also allowed him to beat Obito was his fast reaction.

Jiraya was Minato's sensei, Jiraya tried to teach Naruto how to avoid genjutsu, Minato obviously learned it too, and what kind of Hokage would be tricked by genjutsu, especially when he has intel about the opponent?

Amaterasu is a medium range technique, therefore there would be time to dogdge it, espoecially by a good fuijutsu user
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Minato was pointed many times in Manga to be the fastest shinobi ever, he has very quick reactions
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Itachi may be able to control one at the time, there is no proof he can control multiple ones at the time. Minato can also summon them back if they cause trouble. also genjutsu can be undone when the person/thing controlled is hit.

Minato can also put the seals on the toads, so he can transport to where they are instantly
 

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I expected more from you U_U

If Itachi cancels the FTG Kunais with shuriken he'll just bring his doom closer

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Imagine if it was Minato and his Kunai's instead of Sasuke, Itachi will be the victim of "FTG Radius"

Also Sasuke was able to control Manda because he had Orochimaru, even if we say that isn't the case it would still not work as Minato can lift the genjutsu off of his toads U_U

I'll take my leave now, you guys enjoy.

One more thing Minato's Reaction time > Ay's Reaction time > MS Itachi's Reaction time > MS Sasuke's Reaction time
1. Minato lifting genjutsu of the toads will take his attention, and in a fight like this, that could easily be a fatal decision.
2. As I already stated, his Kunai are odd shaped and shuriken have far different properties, they can be thrown faster and easier. The kunai can easily be diverted by the shuriken as I have stated. Lastly there is not as large an abundance of his kunai's as sasuke's shuriken, even if there where, Itachi is levels above minato's shuriken jutsu as far as we have seen.
3. Please dont use A>B>c logic.
 

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I agree Minato is above Itachi. At least it's implied so. Unfortunately people forget that
 

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I agree Minato is above Itachi. At least it's implied so. Unfortunately people forget that

link and major chaps where its implied so?

I would like to see them as well, and dont give me a huge explanation consisting of mostly opinion, i wanna see where the implications of Minato > Itachi are?
 

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1. Minato lifting genjutsu of the toads will take his attention, and in a fight like this, that could easily be a fatal decision.
2. As I already stated, his Kunai are odd shaped and shuriken have far different properties, they can be thrown faster and easier. The kunai can easily be diverted by the shuriken as I have stated. Lastly there is not as large an abundance of his kunai's as sasuke's shuriken, even if there where, Itachi is levels above minato's shuriken jutsu as far as we have seen.
3. Please dont use A>B>c logic.

1. Not really since its Minato the fastest with s/t, Minato will lift the genjutsu before Itachi actually noticing it U_U

2. Doesn't matter because it'll fail against the FTG radius and Minato himself is a great shuriken master, he can mark his shurikens and then throw which would end Itachi in seconds

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3. A>B>C logic work in terms of physicality i.e. raw strenght, speed, height, relfexes U_U
 
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