How does Princess Hanabi compares to Neji.

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This just goes to show that expeling Chakra from the whole body isn't as easy for Hyugas as people think, which is why only Neji in the history of the clan figured how to do it on his own. If the process of learning how to expel Chakra from every tenketsu is so hard in terms of Chakra control , why are people arguing that 64 Palms is harder to learn than Rotation which isn't based on CC?

The process of 64 palms is having the skills and proper movements to pull it off. Any Hyuga can hit tenketsu but not every hyuga have the skills to pull off 64 palms. Rotation has ntn to do with complexity of movements but instead complexity of Chakra control.

Rotation>TLF in the Chakra control needed to use it. TLF>>64 palms in the CC needed to use it. But yet Hinata finds it harder to use 64 palms , because of the movements involved being of a high caliber. Rotation>>>TLF in the CC needed to use it.

-Do u really believe Hinata never tried learning Rotation before the war and only decided to learn it by chance as an adult when her ninja days were basically done? Is it so hard to believe that just like Hinata failed 64 palm until she got she also failed at Rotation until she finally got the hang of it?.
The hyuga.. if anything have been portrayed to have a natural aptitude with Chakra control. In that same Tenten scan, i believe she says "regular Jonin can only utilize released Chakra from a single body part at a time?" The hyuga use twin lion fists that not only manipulates and changes the form of released chakra from both hands at the same time, they also somehow give the released chakra absorption properties.

We have two levels of difficulty being performed in one technique. The fact that Twin lion fists utilizes chakra from two arms at the same time and a change in chakra shape [ ]-[ ] which is also apparently difficult. A hyuga is not going to go from performing these difficult feats with possible relative ease to taking some 10+ odd years to then learn how to control chakra that is released from all tenketsu.

That trick to utilizing all tenketsu could be anything (the fact that it is orally explained should show it can't be extremely complex shouldn't it?) but when that is figured out, expelling the chakra then spinning to control it shouldn't be difficult.

I completely disagree with the bold though.. but an argument for that will probably be at another time xD

Why would Neji/Hiashi actively nerf Hinata by not even trying to teach her Rotation but yet tries to teach her all the other techs? Obvious answer bro. U know im good for this.
Hiashi is obvious.. Hinata was not to be the heiress and the tech is ti be taught to only the heir. Neji probably didn't teach Hinata either for the same reason he and Hiashi remained the only ones that could use the tech in the war..

Also, your post to Made in Heaven. You think Neji used the entire 64 palms against Hinata in the exams?
 
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In conclusion, both Neji and Hinata are far superior than Hanabi. :win:

On a side note :
Hanabi is currently incapable of utilizing the Tenseigan. (No matter how much others desperately want her to have it)
At the moment, she only has a regular Byakugan, meanwhile it was never implied that Hinata lost her Rikudo Chakra.

Also the only noteworthy title she holds that is canon is "Heiress of the Hyuga".
Which pales in comparison to Hinata's canon title "Byakugan Princess".

Truth hurts, but for the sake of others in this thread who are clearly lost and in need of dire help, it needed to be said. :sigar:
 

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The hyuga.. if anything have been portrayed to have a natural aptitude with Chakra control. In that same Tenten scan, i believe she says "regular Jonin can only utilize released Chakra from a single body part at a time?" The hyuga use twin lion fists that not only manipulates and changes the form of released chakra from both hands at the same time, they also somehow give the released chakra absorption properties.
Jonin can "usually". Meaning not every Jonin lacks or lacked the ability exploit Chakra from other tenketsu
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Wall palm>>>TLF in difficulty despite not doing all that extra shape manipulation and chakra absorption while actively maintaining it. What ur saying does not prove that Hinata "had" the CC to release Gentle fist from her whole body simultaneously by the War.

We have two levels of difficulty being performed in one technique. The fact that Twin lion fists utilizes chakra from two arms at the same time and a change in chakra shape [ ]-[ ] which is also apparently difficult. A hyuga is not going to go from performing these difficult feats with possible relative ease to taking some 10+ odd years to then learn how to control chakra that is released from all tenketsu.
The manga says Jonin can usually , only "utilize" Chakra from the hands or feet. All u did just now was prove that Hinata was able to utilize Chakra from her "Hands". Which is what the manga says is usual for even "Jonin level" ninja. This isn't enough proof for ur case bro.

PS. The Last Hinata was also called a GF Master so ur 10+ years for her to learn Rotation doesn't work when u didn't even know when exactly she mastered GF. If i followed ur logic i'd be saying things like Hiashi waited until Hinata was an adult or after the War before teaching her the trick to using Rotation instead of before the War. Why is it so hard to accept that Rotation>>>>64 palms>>>>TLF in difficulty?

That trick to utilizing all tenketsu could be anything (the fact that it is orally explained should show it can't be extremely complex shouldn't it?) but when that is figured out, expelling the chakra then spinning to control it shouldn't be difficult.
No. The fact that Rotation is "taught" , to the Heirs of the clan by their Leaders does not translate into it being easy to learn/master. The trick of utilizing Gentle fist from all tenketsu by portrayal is one of the most extreme tasks and Kishi already gave us his portrayal of the difficulty in the panel i showed u above.

Ur trying to make it sound so simple yet u nor i have any idea how hard it is compared to what TLF does. Manga points to it being more complex , which is why Kishi difficulty scaled it above typical Jonin level Chakra control.
I completely disagree with the bold though.. but an argument for that will probably be at another time xD
How am i wrong in saying any Hyuga can hit Tenketsu but not every could use 64 palms? Hinata could do 32 palms before she could pull off 64. So ur completely disagreeing with the Manga lol.


Hiashi is obvious.. Hinata was not to be the heiress and the tech is ti be taught to only the heir. Neji probably didn't teach Hinata either for the same reason he and Hiashi remained the only ones that could use the tech in the war..
LOL Ur still stuck in the old system where Hiashi was a prick to his daughter. The Hyuuga changed. Hiashi accepted Hinata back , then started to train both of them , to protect each-other side by side as "EQUALS". If you remember his speech in the War to his dead brother. Ur logic here does not work at all as it doesn't consider story progression.

Even if were to exclud Hiashi , ur logic for why Neji himself wouldn't even try to teach her the Rotation for years doesn't even begin to make logical sense. Why would Neji who figured the trick on his own , who "isn't" an "Heir" to the Hyuga himself , not teach Hinata this from the start of p2 to the War?.

Why would Hiashi , who dreams of seeing the Hyuuga fight as "EQUALS" and not "Branches" , not teach his own Daughter this simple trick of giving her a "ULTIMATE DEFENSE' for "WAR" which u alone find so simple a task of giving?. I hope u see the error in logic here bro.

Also, your post to Made in Heaven. You think Neji used the entire 64 palms against Hinata in the exams?
LOL bro come on man really?
 
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Not pointless at all. 2 techniques against 2 academy students. Doesn't compare at all to anything Neji and Hinata have done in 700 chapters and the Last movie. Yet somehow people think she's anything to Neji other than a relative. It wasn't dragged out either. Just waiting for feats for this So called "genius".
That was not how you worded the previous post. You were going for gimmick and usual trash talk there.
 
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Nice thread, i think people need to remember most people don't have a problem with most Hyuga. That's all I'll say in these troubling times hehe
 

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That was not how you worded the previous post. You were going for gimmick and usual trash talk there.
Don't know how you saw it as "trashtalk". This whole thread is filled with salty comments about how she compares to Neji. That's the truth. So far no feats have been shown from these "fans" or Hinata haters, that put Hanabi on their level.
 

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Don't know how you saw it as "trashtalk". This whole thread is filled with salty comments about how she compares to Neji. That's the truth. So far no feats have been shown from these "fans" or Hinata haters, that put Hanabi on their level.
Hinata is below Hanabi come back when she shows rotation:sigar:
 
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