How does Princess Hanabi compares to Neji.

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Lmfao stupid excuses again? Iruka clearly said hiruzen was stronger than all former and after kage lmfao. Try again, byakugan trash trolls.

Mah man salamander@, stop addressing these clowns posts and just spam facts like the above. Eventually they'll give up Lmfao. Otherwise they'll start trolling like always closing the thread by the mods. We should be the bigger guy, man.

OT:- Is there a viz scan saying hinata is a master of gentle fist? Yes or nah? Answer that and stop your stupid trolling attempts.
You need to stop making personal attacks and abuses too. You are only one infraction away and would be gone for some time if you keep it up.
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Canon is still canon regardless of fan service or things being in line with the manga. Even the manga is not in line with the manga at times, so using this as an argument holds no weight. Not to mention Hinata is also again called a GF master in Part 3, so this statement clearly isn't fan service or being ignored in the manga.
Redundant. Her being master doesn't mean anything if it's not collaborating with your main argument beyond speculation.

And no chapter 101 doesn't say that even remotely.
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It specifically states that it was a technique passed down to Hyga heir house which Neji mastered on his own- without being taught.
Except that was in Part 1, and Part 3 and even Part 2 confirm the Hyuga are/have changed.
That's neither here nor there. You are reaching there for that's what not your argument was in last post. You changed it now. My question is why did you make the false claim about what the chapter 101 stated? Your words didn't match what was written in the chapter.

Meaning her being called a master is irrelevant unless you can show us she is the hyuga heir and her father passed the tech to her. Which doesn't seem to be the case.
It isn't because being called that means she can use all of her Chakra Points.
Who called her a master by the way and in what context? After fiasco with chapter 101 I am not inclined to take your word for it and would like to check the source.


So you are basically misinforming me. Deliberately. While you pretend to use logic and implying it's other who are being stupid. This is what trolling is.
How am I doing this?
By misinforming about chapter 101. You shouldn't have changed the statement. Tenten goes on to declare it as an absolute defense surpassing Gara. But we all saw how strong Gara was. Hiashi says it's passed down to the heir of the house. Rest is speculation.

Narutowiki hasn't included it as one her jutsus either. If they have not edited it to include that tech means a hell lot of people are not ready to accept your personal interpretations.
The wiki also lists Bolt as a GF user when that's not the case yet doesn't list Kaguya as aGF user despite it being said the Hyuga learned the style from it being passed down from her.

I'm fine with that, but I will argue what I believe.
Boruto gentle fist: it's very similar to your own argument there- it seems in the movie boruto used gale palm which was interpreted as air palm GF till manga was released and gave it a name. They should edit it if that's not the case.( it seems it's not since it's not mentioned in the manga yet.

As for Kaguya, regardless of what techs were passed down in some form, her techniques were unique to her and not everything she could do is done by her heirs down the line. So her abilities are classed differently.

So I will suggest you stop playing games and stop letting fan fantasies interfere in way of actual debates.
What's this supposed to mean? Every VS thread uses speculation and assumption in them when pitting characters against one another
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Speculation is alright as long as one knows and accepts they are making one and give their reasons for it. It becomes an issue when you start putting others down and attack them for not being convinced.

I'm tired of ridiculous amount of reports when members are engaging in this kind of debating.
Not trying to sound rude or flame or whatever else, but if that's the case, you could always not be a mod.
And give up? Nope that's not what Naruto taught me. So both parties need to start behaving before I go in zero tolerance mode. That means not engaging in rule breaking behaviour themselves too. Keep it to the point. Do not misrepresent the facts as about chapter 101. And I expect some kind of source to establish the exact statement from the movie seeing you presented your interpretation as something stated in the manga in direct words.

On top of it why this thread is even discussing Hinata? Hanabi is barely in the story. And even if she was stated to be better than Hinata, Hiashi said Neji surpassed main house meaning he surpassed Hanabi. Neji is dead now. So supposed princess is competing with a dead guy who has not learned anything new since he died but while he was alive she was of little use.
 
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What i found out after this while is people actually craving and at the full desire to see Hinata fight in her own fields. So what i can suggest now to fans out there to wait patiently, at for the first time a hyuga is the main character and the sories revolved with Byakugan destiny and sht. It till come to a day when Hinata will showase her true ability as byakugan princess in the future, more probably will if something ever happen to Boruto and Himawari by the Otsutsuukis.

So just wait, the author is actually got something playing in their mind already.
 

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Redundant. Her being master doesn't mean anything if it's not collaborating with your main argument beyond speculation.
Okay.

That's neither here nor there. You are reaching there nor that's what not your argument was in last post. My question is why did you make the false claim about what the chapter 101 stated? Your words didn't match what was written in the chapter.
I may have gotten the wrong chapter, but regardless, as you can see in that scan, Tenten says someone who is a master of the GF can use all Tenketsy.

Who called her a master by the way and in what context? After fiasco with chapter 101 I am not inclined to take your word for it and would like to check the source.
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By misinforming about chapter 101. You shouldn't have changed the statement. Tenten goes on to declare it as an absolute defense surpassing Gara. But we all saw how strong Gara was. Hiashi says it's passed down to the heir of the house. Rest is speculation.
No all that means is that Neji's Rotation at that point was on par/comparable to Gaara's sand defenses, which even the databook states again. Comparing Rotation to Gaara's sand beyond the Chunnin Exams (Sasuke VS Gaara) doesn't hold weight.

Boruto gentle fist: it's very similar to your own argument there- it seems in the movie boruto used gale palm which was interpreted as GF till manga was released and gave it a name. They should edit it.
I don't see how that's similar to what I said?

Speculation is alright as long as one knows and accepts they are making one and give their reasons for it. It becomes an issue when you start putting others down and attack them for not being convinced.
I'm fine with others not being convinced with my speculation, since it isn't 100% proof, I myself want concrete proof as well. What I'm not fine with is people being hypocritical with their arguments. Like stating Hanabi can use 64 Palms based on the assumption that she is should know it due to being the Hyuga heiress then turning around and refusing to acknowledge the likelihood that someone labeled as a Gentle Fist master would know a technique said to be used by Gentle Fist masters.
And give up? Nope that's not what Naruto taught me. So So both parties need to start behaving before I go in zero tolerance mode. That means not engaging in rule breaking behaviour. Keep it to the point. Do not mispresent the facts as about chapter 101. And I expect some kind of source to establish the exact statment from the movie seeing you presented your interpretation as something stated in the manga in direct words.
Like I said, I was probably off in terms of the chapter number, but the scan still shows my point clearly.


Here's the image form the movie.

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On top of it why this thread is even discussing Hinata? Hanabi is barely in the story. And even if she was stated to be better than Hinata, Hiashi said Neji surpassed main house meaning he surpassed Hanabi. Neji is dead now. So pincess is competiting with a dead guy who has not learned anything new since he died but while he was alive she was of little use.
Hanabi was below both by the end of Part 2.
 

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Right now , the only way for Current Hanabi to show that she truly surpassed War Neji is if we some form of notation or if shows a bigger Rotation and/or Wall Palm.
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The only way for us to know if she passed prime Hiashi , is if she shows a bigger Rotation , while also having the ability to use rotation without even physically spinning his body , as he did in the Last while dogpiled on his belly by puppets.
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Right now , the only way for Current Hanabi to show that she truly surpassed War Neji is if we some form of notation or if shows a bigger Rotation and/or Wall Palm.
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The only way for us to know if she passed prime Hiashi , is if she shows a bigger Rotation , while also having the ability to use rotation without even physically spinning his body , as he did in the Last while dogpiled on his belly by puppets.
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Her rotation isn't smaller than Neji's based on scan you posted and this scan .

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I may have gotten the wrong chapter, but regardless, as you can see in that scan, Tenten says someone who is a master of the GF can use all Tenketsy.
You re-posted the same page in full. So it was the same chapter you meant. There is no other chapter detailing Neji much. Tenten's word do not say that one gets this tech automatically and goes on to compare it with Gara's absolute defense. so you must take her words with a grain of salt. I would agree that Hinata can learn it but she hasn't used it ever on screen. So it's not certain yet.

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Her rotation isn't smaller than Neji's based on scan you posted and this scan .

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No LOL , the dust expanded to that szie. This is its actual size tho not confirmed limit where we can actually see her spinning and compare distance.
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You guys can cry about it or be salty all you want. Neji used rotation and was called a Gentle Fist Master. Hinata is a Gentle Fist Master and therefore can use rotation. Now is there a scan of Hanabi doing any technique other then rotation against an academy student? :tea:
 

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There are now different types of rotations? In how many ways you can revolve?
More like they come in different sizes.
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More like they come in different sizes.
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Ohh. .
Well, probably also depends how seriously they are fighting, with whom and why and how much chakra putting in to it accordingly. Just guessing. I never get in nerd mode over it.

Now is there a scan of Hanabi doing any technique other then rotation against an academy student? :tea:
Technically her fight with Hinata as an academy student in the manga had something different than rotation. So that would be a technique other then rotation against an academy student. So don't drag the thread out with pointless comments.
 
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Ohh. .
Well, probably also depends how seriously they are fighting, with whom and why and how much chakra putting in to it accordingly. Just guessing. I never get in nerd mode over it.



Technically her fight with Hinata as an academy student in the manga had something different than rotation. So that would be a technique other then rotation against an academy student. So don't drag the thread out with pointless comments.
Not pointless at all. 2 techniques against 2 academy students. Doesn't compare at all to anything Neji and Hinata have done in 700 chapters and the Last movie. Yet somehow people think she's anything to Neji other than a relative. It wasn't dragged out either. Just waiting for feats for this So called "genius".
 

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I thought it was quite obvious Neji was in a league of his own.
Don't get me wrong, both Hinata and Hanabi are in a league of their own also, cause don't see another Hyūga beating them.
but comparing Neji, come on smh.

or you guys make topic like this for the clicks, cause this thread has the most views in the recent threads.
 

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There are now different types of rotations? In how many ways you can revolve?
Look how big Hiashi's rotation is here :

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And way smaller here when it matched size of Neji's

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So it probably depends on amount of chakra put
 
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